Box Score Recap – 6/1/2017

Lehigh Valley was shut out as Hoby Milner’s 19.1 scoreless inning streak came to an end.

Reading pounded out a win with 5 HR including Scott Kingery’s 17th.

Clearwater took over first place in the division behind Wilson Garcia’s grand slam.

Lakewood couldn’t protect a 4-1 lead and lost, but Will Hibbs extended his scoreless string to 28 innings in 16 appearances.

Lots of diverse stuff here.  I had a busy day.

Here’s an introspective look at pace of play and the pitch clock.  It has some very good statistical arguments that provide some insight into the possible future of pitch clocks.

Lehigh Valley (36-17) was shut out by Indianapolis, 5-0.

Hoby Milner (0-1, 1.77) suffered the loss. He gave up his first runs of the season in a 4-run sixth inning on 5 hits.  Cesar Ramos (1.72) started and pitched 3.0, one-hit innings w/3 K. Adam Morgan (4.67) followed with 2.0, one-hit innings and 4 K.  Michael Mariot (4.35) gave up a run in 2.0 innings.

Cameron Perkins (.290) went 1-3 from the lead off position and started in center field. Roman Quinn is day-to-day with a sore arm (“Roman Quinn has a sore arm suffered while stealing 3rd on Sunday. He is day-to-day, according to sources close to the team.”  Thank you Kram209.)  Hector Gomez (.216) provided most of the offense going 3-4 with a double.

  • #1 Crawford (.200): 0-4 with 2 K
  • #3 Alfaro (.282): 0-4 with 2 K
  • #4 Williams (.279): 1-4 with 2 K
  • #6 Quinn (.274): DNP
  • #9 Cozens (.239): 0-4 with a K
  • #12 Pivetta (5-0, 1.41): DNP
  • #13 Hoskins (.315): 1-4 with a double
  • #17 Pinto (3-3, 5.53): DNP
  • #20 Appel (3-2, 6.75): DNP
  • #25 Lively (6-1, 2.40): DNP
  • #30 Valentin (.229): 7-day DL

Reading (27-23) blew a 6-1 lead but roared back to beat Portland, 14-6.

Mario Sanchez (3.63) faced 5 batters in the fifth inning and they all scored.  His line included 4.0 IP, 10 H, 6 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 3 HR.  Miguel Nunez (2.63) entered and allowed two inherited runners to score before buckling down to prevent his runners from scoring. Colton Murray struck out 2 in his one inning.

Scott Kingery went 4-4 with his 17 HR, 12th double, and 13th stolen base.  Angelo Mora (.258) had 3 hits, a HR (5), and 4 RBI (21).  Five guys had 2 hits – Carlos Tocci, Andrew Pullin, Kyle Martin (.188), Jiandido Tromp, and Mitch Walding (.196).  The other two starters collected one hit each – Chace Numata (.236) and Malquin Canelo (.265).

Martin hit his 9th HR and had 2 RBI (28).  Walding hit 2 HR (8) and picked up 4 RBI (22). Every starter had at least one hit and every starter scored at least one run.  Kingery’s batting average jumped 14 points.

  • #11 Kingery (.323): 4-4 with 2 runs scored, double, HR (17), 2 RBI (32), BB, SB !13)
  • #18: El. Garcia: Restricted List,  80-Game suspension
  • #22 Anderson (3-2, 4.59): DNP
  • #23: Arano (0.00): DNP
  • #24 Tocci (.308): 2-5 with a run scored, K
  • #28 Canelo (.265): 1-4 with a run scored, double, 2 K
  • Pullin (.325): 2-5 with a run scored
  • Tromp (.260): 2-5 with a run scored, 2 K

Clearwater (30-24) pulled away from Florida in a 4-run third inning and won, 7-3.  The Threshers took over sole possession of first place in the tight North Division.

Seven Threshers were selected for the North Division All Star Team.

Jake Waguespack (2.97) pitched 4.0 solid innings.  A very small strike zone (for both starting pitchers) brought him to a career-high 80 pitches and an earlier than anticipated exit from the game.  Did well to only give up one run on 4 hits, 1 walk and a hit batter.  He struck out six.  He threw about 85% fastballs.  He features a cutter that works well with his higher velocity fastball.  Waguespack’s fastball sat 94-95 MPH.  (50% of ALL his pitches were at 94-95 MPH.  He touched 96 and 97 MPH seven times.  Five of his six Ks came swinging at 91, 90, 92, 90, and 95 MPH pitches.He also got a K looking at a 94 MPH pitch.  He threw first pitch strikes to 50% of the batters he faced, but even with a tight strike zone, he threw 63.8% strikes (51/80).

Blake Quinn (2-2, 5.50) got the win.  He gave up a run and struck out 2 in two innings.  His FB ran 90-94 MPH.  He got his Ks swinging at pitches at 85 and 86 MPH.

Tyler Gilbert (2.81) got the 3.0 inning save (2).  He gave up a run and struck out 3 batters.  His FB ran 91-93 MPH.  His Ks came swinging at pitches at 92, 93, and 83 MPH.

Damek Tomscha (.305) hit a solo HR (7) in the first inning.  Cornelius Randolph was on base all 4 times he batted on 3 singles and an intentional walk.  He scored in the second inning on Emmanuel Marrero’s (.287) RBI single.  In the third inning, Randolph was intentional walked to load the bases after a wild pitch during his AB.  Wilson Garcia was supposed to hit into an inning-ending double play, but ruined the Frogs plan when he jumped on the first pitch and drove a grand slam HR (3) over the right field fence.  The Threshers tacked on an additional run in the eighth when Drew Stankiewicz (.285) tripled to the gap in right center and scored on Herlis Rodriguez’ (.300) RBI single.

Here’s a video interview of Cornelius Randolph by Kirsten Karbach.  It’s short but revealing.

  • # 5 Kilome (3-2, 3.02): DNP
  • #10 Randolph (.237): 3-3 with 2 runs scored, BB
  • #27 Ed. Garcia (1-1, 4.68): DNP
  • #29 Pujols (.189): DNP

After watching the XST game at the Complex, I was permitted to enter the stadium early to watch the Threshers batting practice.  I observed the following:

  • It’s the same as during ST- couple of bunts the first round, trot around the bases the second round, try to clear the fence during the last round.
  • Bossart, Grullon, Garcia, and Coppola were in the first group.  All but Grullon have an exaggerated leg lift, even Coppola.  Nobody cleared the fence, although Garcia tried to on most swings.
  • Cumana, Hernandez, Marrero, Rodriguez, and Stankiewicz made up the second group.  Cumana was the first to hit a HR.  Hernandez hit a couple of bombs.  Most of these guys have a small to medium step into the pitcher but no exaggerated leg lift.  All of Rodriguez’ swings were line drive swings, no attempt to elevate for home runs.
  • Tomscha, Laird, Randolph, and Pujols made up the third group.  For a big guy, Tomscha doesn’t take a big lift and step like other power hitters.  He just takes a small step as he shifts his weight.  Laird also takes a small step but he starts from an unusually wide stance.  He hit the most HRs during BP.  Randolph looked like the Randolph I remember from his GCL days.  Not much of a step, just weight shift and very quiet hands.  He hit balls from the LF line to right center field.  Until the last round when he jerked a couple balls over the right field fence (Over the “d” of world champions for those familiar with Spectrum Field).  Pujols has an exaggerated leg lift but only hit one ball out to the left center field berm.  I lost most of his high fly balls in the gray sky above, but saw them land in the outfield and on the warning track.  I was disappointed because I had been told that he puts on a show during BP.  Maybe he was down since he was out of the line up for the fourth time in the last five games.
  • One difference is a bunting station close to the stands by the dugout.  A player I didn’t recognize put balls in an automatic pitching machine and batters would practice taking several bunts before starting BP.
  • Rodriguez took the drill one-handed.  He held the barrel of his bat with his left hand (he’s left-handed) about 6-8 inches below the top of the bat.  And hit one after another pitched ball squarely on the exposed barrel.  He called his last two bunts to the “first base” side.  I’d be worried about mashing my fingers.

Lakewood (31-23) lost to Asheville, 8-5.

Bailey Falter (2-3, 3.88) pitched into the sixth inning and absorbed the loss.  He gave up 5 runs on 11 hits and a walk in 5.2 innings.  He struck out 2 and gave up 2 HRs.  Mauricio Llovera (2.45) relieved and stranded 2 inherited runners, but gave up 3 runs the following inning. Will Hibbs (0.00) struck out 2 in a 1-2-3 eighth inning.  Five of Asheville’s eight runs scored on the 3 home runs they hit.

Mickey Moniak, Henri Lartigue (.254), and David Martinelli (.158) had 2-hit games.  Lartigue hit a 2-run HR (2) and Martinelli hit a solo HR (2).  Moniak (12) hit 2 of the BlueClaws 5 doubles.

  • #2 Moniak (.283): 2-5 with 2 doubles, 2 K
  • #7 Sanchez (1-2, 3.70): DNP (Sanchez pitched 3.0 innings in XST)
  • #16 Medina (1-5, 3.42): DNP
  • #19 Brito (.238): 0-5 with a K
  • #26 Romero (3-1, 2.32): DNP

Williamsport (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 19th at State College.

  • #8 Gowdy
  • #15 Stobbe
  • #21 Ortiz

GCL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Monday, June 26th v. Yankees West.

DSL Phillies (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

DSL Phillies2 (0-0) – first game on Saturday, June 3rd.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Transactions (and paper moves):  With the DSL season starting this weekend, expect to see some movement from XST in Clearwater to the DSL rosters later this week.  

When the Rookie Leagues start, Sutter McLaughlin will probably be added to the DL of one of the teams.  He underwent shoulder surgery last week and will be out for the season.

Emmanuel Marrero returned to the Threshers.  He suffered a slight groin injury, and is better now.  (Slight? Groin?)

  • 6/1 – SS Emmanuel Marrero assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Phillies Ext. Spring Training
  • 6/1 – RHP Tyler Frohwirth assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Williamsport Crosscutters
  • 6/1 – 3B Jose Antequera assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Clearwater Threshers
  • 6/1 – LHP Jeff Singer assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Clearwater Threshers
  • 5/31 – Phillies placed RHP Vince Velasquez on the 10-day disabled list. Right flexor strain.
  • 5/31 – Phillies recalled RHP Ricardo Pinto from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/30 – Phillies sent OF Daniel Nava on a rehab assignment to Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 5/30 – RF Aaron Brown assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Reading Fightin Phils.
  • 5/30 – Reading Fightin Phils activated RHP Victor Arano from the 7-day disabled list.
  • 5/29 – Phillies activated LF Howie Kendrick.
  • 5/29 – Phillies sent LF Daniel Nava on a rehab assignment to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/29 – Phillies optioned RHP Zach Eflin to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • 5/28 – RHP Franklyn Kilome assigned to Clearwater Threshers from Phillies Ext. Spring Training.
  • 5/28 – RHP Edgar Garcia assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Clearwater Threshers.

81 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 6/1/2017

  1. #11 Kingery (.323): 4-4 with 2 runs scored, double, HR (17), 2 RBI (32), BB, SB 13)

    Is he our best prospect now? He’s certainly higher than 11th. What a year he’s having!

    1. Fritz, not only is he our #1 prospect, he’s #1 WITH A BULLET (for all you familiar with the old Billboard top 100). Pulling away from the pack, unfortunately. I’m not even sure who #2 is right now. Hoskins as a RH 1b-only limits his ascension in the rankings. Maybe Moniak, I guess.

      1. When he hits 40 in AA I’ll say he had as good of a year as Hoskins did last year
        Not Knocking him he has moved up a lot this year no doubt, but let’s not put cart in front of horse just yet

        1. He’s a second baseman – he doesn’t need to hit 40 homers to show he is as good as Hoskins or Cozens. He has a lot of value outside of the power; value in the field and on the bases that Hoskins or Cozens do not have.

          1. Alright ,
            I agree he has other value and is one heck of a player, I was just trying to slow the train down a little before it falls off the tracks

            1. I agree you cannot generally assume that a dominant performance at Reading will translate to higher levels, but I think Kingery is an exception. Everything he hits is a line-shot (he has elite ball to bat skills). So, at higher levels, maybe he hits 15-22 homers a year and not 35 – but most of the balls that would have gone out at AA would become doubles at higher levels. I think his skill set is going to translate very well at higher levels.

    2. Yes, he’s our best prospect. I have him as the clear # 1, which is, in minor part, a function of J.P. Crawford’s slow start, but mostly attributable to Scott JetPax becoming a 5 tool, hustling beast. I am marking him as the next star Phillie.

        1. That was his nickname back at U of AZ. Tommy Joseph made that public, I believe.

    3. Kingery is absolutely our top prospect.

      Btw…Randolph 3-3 BB. Glad to see it.

      1. Glad there is no more of this trash talk about him sharing time in the outfield, he absolutely must play,
        Well except for the occasional day off which is cool with me.

  2. 1 Kingery
    2 Hoskins
    3 Moniak
    4 Crawford
    5 Quinn
    6 Alfaro
    7 Kilome
    8 Cozens
    9 Sanchez
    10 Pullin
    11 Pivetta
    12 N Williams
    13 Tocci
    14 Gowdy
    15 Gruillon

    1. Mike I Am not a stat man. and know very little. But how is kingery at one and pullin at 10. Doesnt make sense to me. Look at there age and numbers. if kingery is one, pullin is 1a

      1. rocco…Mike Ventrola(sp) Reading’s play-by-play announcer says Pullin may have the best bat on their team, with Kingery right there , Tocci (batting .400 with RISP with 2 outs) and Malquin Canelo.

        1. Romus, I read something yesterday that said if Pullin was called up to the Phils, he would, right now, be their best hitter.

          1. matt13……wow.
            Just not sure about that, since there is a fairly wide abyss between AA pitching and MLB pitching.

            1. Some moves I’d like to see as the Phils start early to figure out their off-season 40 man:
              – Yacksel Rios and Andrew Pullin to LV
              – Hoby Milner and Roman Quinn to the Phils
              – Leiter and Stassi to LV

              Iron Pigs OF: Pullin-Williams-Cozens with Perkins as defensive sub

          2. I read the same article. I believe the writer was being a wee bit sarcastic.

      2. I think Kingery does more than Pullin all around that said I’m not ready because of the heater he is on to move him all the way to 1

        1. I really like Pullin, but Kingery is a significantly better prospect because:

          1. He’s got a short little swing that generates power – almost no platoon differential; bodes well for higher levels.

          2. He plays a key defensive position and plays it extremely well by all accounts.

          3. He is faster and is an excellent base runner.

          4. Even if you just looked at raw hitting stats, Kingery’s are better (although not by a huge amount).

          5. He has the “it” factor (Quinn has this too) – you watch him play and you become enthralled.

          But Pullin should not be overlooked – he is a very fine prospect (I ranked him as our most underrated prospect before the year and, even after his fast start, he still is underrated) and I would have no problem whatsoever if they traded Williams and decided to give Pullin a shot in left. Personally, I think he’s going to be a better player than Williams, although that is of course debatable.

          1. Catch, well said about Kingery and Pullin.

            I’m pullin’ for Pullin, but he’s got a way to go to get behind Altherr, Odubel, Cozens, Williams and Quinn.

          2. This site is made for debates, Let’s not forget what Williams did at AA and if Pullin can match it I’m open for your trade talk.
            Williams is just so much of a better athlete and could be so much of a better player,
            But , ifs and buts don’t make ball players.
            So we debate on

            1. I think he is a better athlete. I think he hits the ball farther, throws better and runs faster. No argument there. But I’m not sure he’s going to be a better hitter in the long run if he doesn’t show good plate discipline in the major leagues. All of those physical advantages may not make him a better player if Pullin has better plate discipline and better contact skills at higher levels. Frankly, I’m not totally sold with either guy long-term in left field and think it’s just as likely that our left-fielder of the middle-term future is Dylan Cozens, with Altherr in right and Herrera or Quinn in center.

    2. That looks good. Where does Fanti rank for you? His WHIP and K rates in 2016 and 2017 look impressive?

        1. i am big fan of fanti off what i have read only. That being said. if you read what scouts have been saying about him He would be lower than 30. No velocity . no secondary pitchers. yet he gets guys out. I love to see him ;pitch

    3. Still not that high on Kilome. I will admit his stats are better this year, BUT he still needs to work on control/pitch location and still needs to develop pitches other than a fastball. Otherwise he becomes the next Ethan Martin. I would put Kilome at #15, and for me that’s recognition of his improvement. I didn’t rank him in the top 20 last year.

  3. Kingery, Randolph, and Moniak with multi hit games again. This is very good. Jim, you didn’t mention Therrien got promoted to AAA. If he has a strong month, he could be in Philly in August.

    1. Yeah, I am waiting for the official transaction. It’s my understanding he’s being blocked by tonight’s starter. After the game I expect a paper move on Eflin and Therrien’s promotion to go through.

  4. Just looked at Mickey’s stat line this year, shockingly similar to last year… exactly the same. Pretty crazy and impressive considering jumping from high school to rookie ball to Full Season A. Cant wait to see how he does for the rest of the year.

    Also impressed with how Coppola is hitting in Clearwater. I know his ceiling isn’t that high but another impressive line….maybe a future Revere with better plate discipline and less speed.

      1. Romus,


        So far, Coppola hasn’t gotten a lot of respect as a prospect. i saw him twice recently and he didn’t stand out to me. I’ll be seeing the Threshers a number of times starting next month and will be watching him more closely.

          1. The Phillies could use a mean Dick Ashburn these days
            Ill show myself out, sincerest apologies.

        1. Frank, Coppola, with his .350 BA, was promoted to Reading today. I guess somebody respects him.

      2. Haha Romus…..that would be great. He seems to be able to hit and get on base but he seems to play in the corners a lot which will makes it much tougher. That’s why I was thinkng Revere….maybe he can fake CF for stretches.

        Glad to hear he got promoted today, curious to see how he does in Reading.

        1. DaveH….was looking at his fielding…..he actually has played a good mix of all three OF position
          CF-46 games

  5. Most of the prospects are doing from average to really good. For anyone one to move up the list they have to be really good such as Hoskins and Kingery are doing right now. This actually saying a lot on how well they are doing as a group. Even prospects that started bad they are now doing much better and that includes Crawford, Randolph, and Williams. Then they have players like Tocci, Canelo, and Pullin who are have solid years and may push their way onto the prospect lists.

  6. Quinn injured sliding into 3rd base. Why do runners continue to go in head first? Trout out for awhile on the DL for the same thing. Considerable more injuries vs. feet first. Same deal on head first at first base. Makes no sense.

    1. I agree with you and it’s one of my pet peeves. Why they continue to slide head first boggles my mind. Main reason is that you always slow up a bit before you slide and secondly the number of hand and finger injuries increase greatly.

  7. I read the blurb on Thierren on CSN yesterday. I didn’t know that he had a 93-94 mph wipeout Slider. What the hail… Why has that not been reported more?

    1. I doubt that’s accurate. Very few people throw hard enough to have a 93-94 MPH slider (usually it means you throw your FB at 100 – which he doesn’t). That may be a reference to a 2-seam FB.

        1. ive been huge on therrien all season and think he and Austin davis could pitch in the bigs right now. Guys like Venditte and Beato are doing great, but they have had a run in the majors and we know what they are. these guys could be really good bullpen pieces

    2. They meant fastball 93-94. I have talked to a few people and it is more 91-93 T94 and has heavy sink. The slider is in the 80s.

    1. Actually it’s 5 and Kingery was close to getting the top spot for the second week in a row.

  8. It is fun seeing our guys on the Hot Sheet, We have said this all week. Kingery has earned a promotion to LHV. I hope JP continues to play like he did in May. I forgot he was down to .089 in April. I would like to see Williams walk a bit more, and I have no doubt that Cozens plays, at some point, in the Major Leagues.

    1. matt13….not sure Williams will ever get to being even an average ‘walk’ guy. The average sits somewhere around 7.5% and he may be lucky to get close to that. If you just go by what the teams on a whole did…the Cubs led the majors last season at 10% and the Royals were last at 6%
      For Williams, it would appear it just isn’t in his DNA.

      1. If he’s successful the profile will probably look something like Adam Jones from Baltimore.

  9. Really happy to see Randolph heating up. If he turns things around, the 2015 draft will start looking damn good, with him and Kingery at the top of it, and Fanti in a late round.

  10. Jim, thanks for the update on McLoughlin. I’ve been wondering where he was. Last thing I saw was he was on the 7 day with back stiffness.

          1. Funny Eric Long has Kingery as plus ,plus , defense. His partner on the same site as it as roughly avg.

  11. My take on Kingery moving up falls in line with the rest of you guys. The way I see it is that he’s due for a slump, even a small one. If he slumps at AA, he’d lose a bit of confidence and then have to work his way out of it.

    By moving him to AAA now, he avoids that possible AA slump. Chances are, he’ll start off slowly at LHV and have to work his way out of it. This way at least, he wouldn’t have to work his way out of two possible slumps.

    1. On top of the fact that he’s dominated AA for 8 weeks. Ned Colletti was on 94 today and said in so many words that once a prospect is having 6 good games a week, it’s time to move him up. Is there anything to gain by keeping him at Reading? They’re wasting valuable time he should be spending at Lehigh. Ciada, you make a good point as well. Timing is vitally important in developing such a promising player. And it’s not like he’s 19. He might be that one stud in this organization’s crown that sparks a new era of winning baseball.

      Fear of either success or failure is death. I hope this regime doesn’t suffer from it. If you determine a kid can play, don’t hold him back because somebody might think you’re rushing him along.

      1. I heard Colletti very interesting. Said a lot of why you cant just have stats, you need to know a lot about a player. his makeup is very important. Stats is a small part of the picture, used if you dont get to see the player a lot.

  12. Coppola to Reading. Good for him, he deserves it. I would assume Aaron Brown will lose at bats and possibly even be released. Pitcher conversion time? How is Gose doing?

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