Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 … #31

The 2017 Phuture Phillies Reader Top 30 comes to a close with the selection of Jesse Valentin as your selection as the #30 prospect in the Phillies’ organization.  Valentin received 98 of 334 votes (29%) for a plurality victory.  Bailey Falter (66 votes, 20%) finished second.  Jose Pujols (40 votes, 12%), Victor Arano (28 votes, 8%), and Daniel Brito (27 votes, 8%) finished third through fifth.

Jesse Valentin was drafted by the Los Angeles Dodgers in the 1st round (51st overall) of the 2012 MLB June Amateur Draft out of the Puerto Rico Baseball Academy.  He was traded to the Phillies on August 16, 2014 as the first of two PTBNL in lieu of cash in the Roberto Hernandez trade of August 7th.  Victor Arano was the second PTBNL on August 28th.

Valentin had a so-so first professional season in 2012 in the rookie Arizona League (.211/.352/.316).  However, he began a pattern of putting balls in play and keeping his strike out rate down that he carried through all levels.

In 2013, Valentin rebounded with strong metrics in the rookie Pioneer league (.284/.379/.396), but stumbled in full-season A Ball in the Midwest League (.212/.325/.293).

In 2014 and back in the Midwest League, Valentin again rebounded with a strong season (.280/.349/.430) before being traded to the Phillies and assigned to Advanced A Clearwater where he posted weak numbers in a small sample of 49 PA (.205/.255/.250).

Valentin’s 2015 season was derailed by a stint on the restricted list.  He returned in time to post some strong numbers (.273/.351/.424) for a Threshers’ team involved in a successful playoff race.

Valentin continued to play well in 2016 for Reading (.276/.346/.399).  He was promoted mid-season to Lehigh Valley and saw his numbers slip a little (.248/.325/.381).

In four seasons in the Puerto Rican Winter League, Valentin has played well against much older competition.

  • 2012 –    18 PA, .250/.471/.417
  • 2013 –    27 PA, .320/.370/.360
  • 2014 –    89 PA, .278/.341/.367
  • 2015 – 179 PA, .270/.307/.319

Valentin was drafted as a shortstop and has played both middle infield positions.  He has also logged innings at third base and both corner outfield positions.  However, it has been apparent since 2013 (at least to me) that second base is his best position.  (Career Fld% of .976 at second base, .911 at shortstop.)

Valentin exhibits a decent knowledge of the strike zone.  He doesn’t strike out much and works walks.

  • Year   Age  Dif    Tm                       Lev      PA     BB   BB%     SO   K%
  • 2012   18   -1.4   Dodgers            Rk       197   35   17.8%   24   12.2%
  • 2013   19   -1.6   Ogden                Rk       293   33   11.3%   34   11.6%
  • 2013   19   -2.3   Great Lakes      A         122   16   13.1%   28   23.0%
  • 2014   20   -1.5   Great Lakes      A         462   38      8.2%   72   15.6%
  • 2014   20   -2.7   Clearwater        A+        49      3      6.1%      6   12.2%
  • 2015   21   -1.7   Clearwater        A+      118   12   10.2%   15   12.7%
  • 2016   22   -2.3   Reading              AA      388   38     9.8%   56   14.4%
  • 2016   22   -4.5   Lehigh Valley   AAA   123   12     9.8%   24   19.5%

Valentin’s father is former major league shortstop Jose Valentin who played 15 years with the Brewers, White Sox, Dodgers, and Mets from 1992 through 2007.  You may have noticed that I often refer to Jesmuel as Jesse.  I saw him listed both ways when the trade was consummated.  When I met him at the Complex after the trade, I asked him which he preferred.  He didn’t care and said Jesse was fine.

The Reader Top 30 is complete.  However, I’ll continue posting polls for a few days until I get tired of it.  So, it may end abruptly.  I have added some random guys at my discretion – Brock Stassi, Arquimedes Gamboa, Jiandido Tromp, Zack Coppola, Austin Bossart, Jonathan Guzman, Luke Leftwich, Luis Carrasco, Mauricio Llovera, and Francisco Morales. Soooo, next up is your selection for the Plus One prospect in the organization.


Poll to date –

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Jorge Alfaro
  3. Mickey Moniak
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Nick Williams
  6. Franklyn Kilome
  7. Sixto Sanchez
  8. Rhys Hoskins
  9. Dylan Cozens
  10. “C” Randolph
  11. Scott Kingery
  12. Kevin Gowdy
  13. Harold Arauz
  14. Andrew Knapp
  15. Jhailyn Ortiz
  16. Adonis Medina
  17. Mark Appel
  18. Nick Pivetta
  19. Ben Lively
  20. Alberto Tirado
  21. Elniery Garcia
  22. Nick Fanti
  23. Cole Stobbe
  24. Drew Anderson
  25. Andrew Pullin
  26. Carlos Tocci
  27. Ricardo Pinto
  28. Jordan Kurokawa
  29. Thomas Eshelman
  30. Jesse Valentin

40 thoughts on “Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 … #31

      1. Okay, probably not funny. Watson didn’t get a single vote during the poll to determine which prospects would be added. I included the Other feature in that poll and it’s available in this poll. You can write him in if you want.

        1. I wonder whether Watson will get moved to the bullpen in ST. There’s just not a starting spot for him.

  1. Congrats Jesse. He is an interesting prospect in that he has no real loud tool but could end having a really nice MLB career and by that you could see him starting on team that has all the pieces in other places of their line-up or being a perennial part of the league as a bench player.

    Jimmy wondering if you have access to a players readers rankings. For instance if you look back at the years we’ve been ranking Cesar what was his yr/yr rankings?

        1. DMAR…..some of rocco must be rubbing off on you. 🙂
          …..just go to the top of the page….click on “Prospect Rankings’…then scroll down to Readers’ Rankings…then select the year.

          1. LOL its that easy? Let’s see what I remember the next time I want to see that

            A. It’s at the top of the page
            B. Ask Romus

      1. So what’s interesting about this Romus is that you can say Cesar is the 2nd best offensive prospect the system has graduated in many years and the best he could do with us was #10 in a really poor system lol

        1. DMAR…and then I guess, we as pollsters, are a poor judge of future talent!
          And take Cam Rupp….his highest poll ranking was #16 in 2014. Prior to that he was in the 20s a few times, and part of that may have been because of Brad Engler’s (BradinDC) persuasive arguments for him.
          You just never know.

  2. My +3 prospects are
    +1 Arano
    +2 Brito
    +3 Irvin
    With honorable mentions of Pujols and Bossart. Francisco Morales should be getting some talk later this summer. And finally, while I personally no longer consider Stassi a prospect, I’ll be interested in his spring training performance.

    1. @8mark – i have the same prospects in my top 30 that missed the mark although i have Brito, Irvin then Arano.

  3. I can’t believe Roberto Hernández started a couple games last year! Okay, it was for the Braves, but still, that’s amazing he’s still around.

    Even with him as an active ML player, I’d say we won that trade with the Dodgers. Looking forward to when Valentin and Arano make The Show!

    Btw, I did vote for Arano here….

  4. Brock Stassi is missing from the Top 30 List ?? He’s the #1 player in the system right now. Bar none.

  5. Brito, Gamboa, Irvin, Arano and Pujols all good choices here. Lots of legit prospects still exist at #30 although I don’t have 3 names from above close to be top 30. I do have Falter and Arouz in my top 50 however.
    Next year there will be guys jumping up the list although no one jumped more than Sixto Sanchez in one year.
    Moniak #6 on OF list, not bad

  6. Of those left I can pull at least a dozen names of prospects that have a decent chance to be considered legit. Now I know most wont make it but there is some good upside to many left. Most of these guys we will have a better feel for once this season is in the books as they are in low levels

  7. Brock Stassi will make the major league roster for Opening Day. Wouldn’t that make him “better” than other prospects?

    1. Uh, no, not really. What would make him a better prospect is if he were a lot younger, played a more valuable defensive position and was a better hitter with a higher ceiling.

      That said, my tongue-in-cheek reply aside, I LIKE Brock Stassi and he has done an incredibly job resurrecting his career from near extinction. I don’t think he’s a top 30 prospect, but he’s done so much to improve his standing that if somebody had him around 35 or so, well, I don’t think that would be too crazy. For him to even be in the discussion for a top 40 prospect is an amazing achievement on his part at this point.

      1. So, if Brock were younger and couldn’t hit a curve ball, he would be a better prospect. First, he must be younger or he cannot be a prospect. Apparently, the prospect label gets dropped at age 24 or so. He’s not Mike Trout. How can he be a prospect? Then, he must be revered as a draft pick or international pool investment. He is not our precious $2M signee. He doesn’t have the pedigree. It doesn’t matter that he can hit or that he might make the Opening Day roster. Every last Top 30 or 40 “prospect” is much more important to the organization than Brock Stassi. You guys are practicing some form of self delusion and group think. You are afraid to stray from the pack’s thought process on “prospects”. I may be wrong about whether Brock Stassi makes it or not, but, right now, he’s better than C Randolph and Dylan Cozens.

    2. No. I like Stassi and wish he’d be a great story by making the big club as a sound major league player, but he’s no longer a ‘prospect’ in the sense younger and higher ceiling kids are.

    3. 8mark/catch…..I think you guys are being trolled on the Brock Stassi, ‘better than other prospects’, posting.

      1. I know, Romus. I kinda feel sorry for the dude. Do ya think he’s the “multi-personality” (multi names) guy?

        1. Thanks for vouching for me. While I have been around for a while, we can’t really say anything about the quality of my comments.

  8. I did not see his earlier list. Did any of our prospects make it? And, do you agree that Moniak’s ranking is pretty high vs, where I thought he would have him?

  9. IMO there is a guy on the remaining prospect list above that has the potential to be a 5 tool player. Note that the key word is “potential” – whether he becomes one or not is still to be determined. That player – Luke Williams. When he adds the weight and strength to hit with power, his speed, arm strength, athleticism and swing gives him a shot at being that 5 tool player every team desires. Stats are stats but they don’t tell the whole story – if you followed Williamsport last year, you would know he squared up as many balls as anyone on the team but had little to show for it. A work in progress no doubt but the tools are there.

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