Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 Poll for #30

Thomas Eshelman was your selection as the #29 prospect in the Phillies’ organization. Eshelman received 97 of 289 votes (34%) for a plurality victory. Jesse Valentin (41 votes, 14%) finished in second place, Bailey Falter (40 votes, 14%) finished third.

Thomas Eshelman was drafted by the Houston Astros in the 2nd round of the 2015 MLB June Amateur Draft out of California State University at Fullerton.

Eshelman signed with the Astros on July 1st and was assigned to the GCL Astros on July 19th.  With the late signing and report dates, he only logged 4 starts in August.

Eshelman was traded to the Phillies on December 12, 2015 with LHP Brett Oberholtzer, RHP Harold Arauz, RHP Mark Appel, and RHP Vince Velasquez for RHP Ken Giles and SS Jonathan Arauz.

After two starts and 4.0 innings pitched in the GCL, the Astros sent Eshelman to full-season A ball for two starts and another 6.1 innings.  Tough to project anything on such a small sample.

Eshelman began the 2016 season in Clearwater.  In 11 starts, he went 4-2 with a 3.34 ERA. He totaled 59.1 innings pitched, had a walk rate of 1.7 BB.9, and struck out 8.1 K/9.  He had a 1.16 WHIP, but had given up 7 home runs (1.1 HR/9).  Known as a command pitcher in college, Eshelman threw strikes on 67.2% of his pitches and never threw less than 63% in a game.

Promoted to Reading in June, Eshelman struggled a little in 13 starts.  He went 5-5 with a 5.14 ERA.  He pitched 61.1 innings and saw his walk rate rise to 2.5 BB/9 and his K/9 dip to 8.1.  His WHIP rocketed to 1.57 but he cut his HR/9 almost in half to 0.6.  However, he maintained his command.  In the 11 games for which they kept stats, Eshelman threw 66.7% strikes.  He slipped below 60% twice, but was over 70% five times.

Eshelman made two trips to the DL while with Reading for turf toe and appendicitis.

Next up is your selection for the #30 prospect in the organization.

 

Poll to date –

  1. J.P. Crawford
  2. Jorge Alfaro
  3. Mickey Moniak
  4. Roman Quinn
  5. Nick Williams
  6. Franklyn Kilome
  7. Sixto Sanchez
  8. Rhys Hoskins
  9. Dylan Cozens
  10. “C” Randolph
  11. Scott Kingery
  12. Kevin Gowdy
  13. Harold Arauz
  14. Andrew Knapp
  15. Jhailyn Ortiz
  16. Adonis Medina
  17. Mark Appel
  18. Nick Pivetta
  19. Ben Lively
  20. Alberto Tirado
  21. Elniery Garcia
  22. Nick Fanti
  23. Cole Stobbe
  24. Drew Anderson
  25. Andrew Pullin
  26. Carlos Tocci
  27. Ricardo Pinto
  28. Jordan Kurokawa
  29. Thomas Eshelman

65 thoughts on “Phuture Phillies 2017 Reader Top 30 Poll for #30

  1. Good listing, y’all. Well, mostly y’all. Except for the Panama contingent and people who don’t hate Ben Lively like I do. Also Jordan what’s his name sure is a thing.

    IMO Roman is too high and Adonis is too low and Pinto is too low and the rest is mainly quibbling.

    Also Cam Rupp should be higher. I know he graduated several years ago but it would be out of character not to mention him.

  2. It’s time for Valentin. It was time for Valentin in the low 20s… at least for me. But after 2 weeks of picking Eshelman, I finally get to chose someone else. You know what they say, “If you’re not the lead dog, the scenery never changes.”

  3. After listening to BAs podcast on Phillies top 10 prospects, 2 positives:
    1 – They think the Phillies have done the best job of identifying young int’l arms, and
    2 – Ben Badler’s favorite prospect BEYOND the top 10 is Daniel Brito.

    Why Arano and Brito aren’t considered top 30 prospects here make me scratch my head but Arano being a reliever and Brito being farther away from the bigs might be reasons?

    1. I had Brito and Seranthony ahead of 8 guys that made the list (including the 3 *’s), but I’m still voting Grullon.

    2. Since I see Arano as a non-closer reliever he has a low ceiling but will likely make it to the majors. Some of the starter may also become above average relievers.
      Brito as a 2B only guy who is very far away care very large risk if his bat is not good enough to never make the majors.

      I struggle with ranking the really young guys. The upside seems great because the weaknesses may get “fixed”. As prospects age and are challenged at higher levels, their projection diminishes. Injuries have a significant effect and some are considered ‘predictable’.

      If Moniak trends like Tocci his ranking will decrease, but as #1 pick he might hold value as Appel does for some evaluators.

      1. I give Arano every chance to become a closer if not that definitely an 8th inning guy. Did you see when he got to AA he put up a .90 WHIP and a K/9 of 13 and in CLW he was nearly as nasty…

        Still just 22

      2. Brito should be in in any Top 30 Phillies list. As for Arano, it’s really hard to high the RPs high unless they project to be at least a closer or a high leverage late inning guy. Arano probably needs to repeat his performance in 2017 and he might crack a consensus Top 20 if he pitch like a shutdown closer.

        Also, for a farm with depth in the upper minors, this will push a lot of younger prospects down too.

  4. I submitted my list to Jimmy weeks ago and I think I always pull the trigger on that too fast. While I have Valentin on my list at 25 I pulled the Brito lever this morning. He was my #30 sol I kind of wanted to see him get in.

    But again there are so many guys pressing like crazed teenage girls trying to get into a beebs concert.

  5. Next up Simon Muzziotti. He will have to be the new VZL punching bag for next season to follow the lineage of Freddy and Carlos…

    Where are the Windle lovers? I never liked that guy and hated that he actually made a top 30

    1. You gotta love they finally busted the red sox and Theo practices for cheating
      How long had they done this before they got caught mean while the Phillies were playing by the books like Sunday school, can’t go over without spending prospects.
      Oh well nice guys finish first is what they say right ?

      1. One of my favorite players when I first remember watching the Phillies on TV was Bake McBride. I loved the name I loved the hair. As I was thinking more about Nick Williams and wondering what he could become that was the old school name that popped into my head.

        Does anyone realize Bake was a career .299/345/765 hitter…

        1. DMAR…shake and Bake. You would hope,
          ..but just looking at their AAA metrics so far…Bake, in over 500PAs, whiffed about 8/9% less than Nick Williams.
          But one can dream.

        2. What a wonderful player Shake and Bake was. Enjoyed his career immensely. If Williams can replicate him, that would be something special. Bake could fly first to third or first to home. Baserunning is a lost art. Jimmy and Chase were so good, we have no one like that now. It’s why Roman is so important to our future, Kingery also.

          1. Was Bake included in the infamous 5 for 1 trade to Cleveland?

            the guy we got in that trade was a really good player in his own right and through unfair media expectations never was fully embraced. A look back at his career and you’d be happy if either Nick or Dylan turned in that type of career here.

            1. December 9, 1982: Traded by the Cleveland Indians to the Philadelphia Phillies for Jay Baller, Julio Franco, Manny Trillo, George Vukovich and Jerry Willard.

              December 8, 1991: Traded by the Philadelphia Phillies to the California Angels for Kyle Abbott and Ruben Amaro.

        3. Shake n Bake was a very good player but didn’t have the power Williams projects to have. But if Nicky is anything like McBride, I’ll take it.

      2. @romus – i doubt to see Cozens. Prospects in the upper minors never get the love from national media. JPC and Alfaro, the highest end of the upper minors prospect, should be higher but they are not.

        1. Agree……but when you lead all minors in HRs and I also think one or two in RBIs…..hard to ignore those numbers, and still be considered a legit ranking.
          With that being said, if he gets in at 10….then they are just throwing a bone his way

    1. That’s a very strong SS list. Combine them with all the young SS already in the majors and we might be about to embark on the best run of SS play ever. There could be multiple MVP years by SS coming up.

  6. I’ve been voting Valentin since around #20. Maybe he’ll finally be selected. Arano, Briton, and Canelo would be next for me.

  7. Went with Valentin here.

    One thing I noticed looking over the poll so far is the amount of guys that were drafted / signed as amateurs, rather then being acquired via trade. The Hamels/Giles trades rightly get a lot of focus when we point out the improved farm system, but the majority of our top prospects were brought into the system by our FO. That’s a marked improvement from past years and gives hope for the future!

    Jim – I’m a relatively new at commenting here, but as a long time reader I’d just like to thank you for the fantastic work that you put into this site.

  8. Just my opinion, but I expect JP to be a better player than Dansby Swanson. I would have had him over the Mets SS also, and put him at #2. I know he did not set AAA on fire, but I still believe he is an elite prospect. This year will be a crucial one.

    1. Yeah. This year will be a crucial one. I liked the write-up about Crawford that the guy did for the mlb ratings. I thought it was a realistic assessment of where Crawford is right now. Sometimes our opinions of Crawford are tainted by hope. For example, Zolecki always writes something similar to “Crawford should be in the majors sometimes this year. If not, then something has gone wrong.” The only that will have gone wrong actually in that case is our community expectations. Crawford still must earn his place in the mlb.

      1. They just had that episode on tv recently. She really was quite the hottie as Laura Petrie but unassuming.

    1. I dunno if 31 is considered “guys of a certain age” but I remember as a kid watching re runs of The Dick Van Dyke Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show, both can hold up even today, great shows. Always thought she was one of the most beautiful girls in Hollywood as well. Natural beauty.

      1. I underrated her as an actress. I “hated” her character in Ordinary People. Quite an acting feat for one of “America’s sweethearts” to convincingly play such an unsympathetic character.

        1. First female lead character and had her own production company. Great comic timing. She right there with Lucy, except prettier, as original female icons on tv. RIP!

  9. Jim, a suggestion if an overly simple one – how about the first prospect to receive (say for example 100) votes stops the poll?
    You could modify that # based on how many people are visiting the site.

    1. Thank you. I welcome all suggestions. My first thought was, depending on what time I post a poll, that could prevent readers from a different time zone or with different reading patterns from feeling they have any input into the poll. For example, if I post at 3:00AM, the poll could be closed before the west coast had a chance to vote. If I post before midnight, east coast readers who don’t vote until after work might not get a chance to vote.

  10. Taking note of the SSs write up, we should consider the effect that a broken thumb has taken on Crawford’s hitting. Supposedly, that has not regained its strength yet. This off-season should have been used by him to gain some (10 lbs) and muscle that would allow him to have more power at the plate and not get tired out in the last 1/3 of the season. There should have been put in place some form of program to strengthen that thumb; if it was done, then we may see the good hitter he showed us in his first two seasons before the thumb injury. Should that occur, he’d outrank all others cited in the article….for his range of fielding is superior to the others.

    1. His plate control, in my view, is what really sets him apart. It’s about 70 or 75 with a ceiling of 80. Over time this could make him an elite player if he learns when to turn on a pitch. It also makes his floor very high.

  11. MATT IMHOF announced his retirement today after his freak injury last season. Wishing him all the best

  12. I would appeal to the good sense of voters in the poll and ask people to vote for their favorites, but not in groups. It is good that people in certain areas boost their favorites. Let people decide on their own rather than organize massive votes. The mass voting does no good for anyone. I hope Kurokawa makes it out of Spring Training.

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