Box Score Recap – 6/14/2016

Lehigh Valley (35-29) Beat Gwinnett, 7-6 with a 5-run ninth inning.  The IronPigs overcame a 6-2 deficit on a 2-run double by Darin Ruf, and a bases-clearing, walkoff double by Brock Stassi.  Those were the only 2 hits during the rally as Braves’ pitchers hit a batter and issued 4 walks in the inning.

David Buchanan (4.91) started and gave up four runs in 5.1 innings.  Mario Hollands (3.00) surrendered 2 more runs in the eighth.  Frank Herrmann (2-1, 3.86), who probably thought he entered in mop up duty, pitched a clean inning and got the win.

Taylor Featherston (2-4, .283) started the rally by getting HBP with one out.  Ruf’s 2 RBI give him 25, Stassi’s 3 give him 21.  Cameron Perkins (.316) had 3 hits, a double, RBI (25), SB (4), and outfield assist at home (Perkins-Crawford-Knapp).

  • #1 Crawford (.169) went 1-4 with a BB, RBI (6), and SB (2).
  • #2 Thompson (5-5, 3.42) – DNP
  • #3 Williams (.284) went 1-2 with a double and 3 BB.
  • #4 Appel – DL, shoulder strain.
  • #9 Knapp (.263) went 0-3 with 2 BB and 2 PB (9).
  • #13 Eflin (5-2, 2.90) – promoted to Philadelphia.
  • #17 Cordero – DL.
  • #23 Sweeney (.231) went 0-3 with 3 K.
  • #26 Asher – DL, shin fracture.
  • #28 Ramos (0.48) – DNP.
  • #30 Lively (3-0, 2.09) – DNP.

Reading (46-19) Beat Hartford, 8-6.  Okay, first things first.  Roman Quinn started the game in LF and led off.  He went 0-1 with a leadoff walk in the fourth inning.  he went from first to third on a single to RF.  He scored on another single.  He had one put out.  Two other balls were hit his way, both singles.  He was lifted when his spot came to bat a second time in the fourth.  As he passed passed people on the way to the clubhouse he didn’t look happy, but he was not limping.  This was his first game action in ten days, maybe he was lifted on the side of caution?

Ricardo Pinto gave up 4 runs in 6.0 innings.  Windle, Roibal, and Milner (.069) got holds. Miguel Nunez (2.00) got his 8th save.  Rhys Hoskins was a one-man wrecking ball with 2 doubles, a home run, and 6 RBI.

  • #6 Alfaro (.311) went 1-4 with an RBI (34).
  • #7 Quinn (.288) went 0-1 with a BB and was replaced in the fourth inning.
  • #10 Pinto – (2-2, 4.25) – 6.0 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB, 8 K, 1 HBP.
  • #18 Pivetta – (6-4, 3.67) – DNP.
  • #19 Hoskins (.286) went 3-4 with 2 doubles, a HR (17), BB, and 6 RBI (52).
  • #22 Cozens (.290) went 1-4 with a BB.
  • #28 Brown (.236) went 0-3.

Clearwater (37-26) Beat Charlotte, 2-1.  Closed to within 2.5 games of first place Tampa with 5 to play.  Ranfi Casimiro (6-4, 3.60) pitched a gem in his 7.0 shutout innings.  He gave up 4 hits and walked none.  He only struck out one, but he only needed 71 pitches, 48 for strikes.  Casimiro threw 17 first pitch strikes to 25 batters, and ran zero 3-ball counts.  Only one of the four hits he allowed was hard hit, a double to the RCF gap.  His only free pass was a hit batter in the fourth, but it came after the second and third Threshers’ batters were hit by pitched balls in the bottom of the third.  (I don’t advocate intentionally throwing at batters, but Threshers’ batters have been hit a league leading 42 times and Threshers’ pitchers have hit a league low 12 opposing batters.)

The Threshers scored in the first when Carlos Tocci beat out an infield single deep into the hole at short.  He scored on Andrew Pullin’s 15th RBI on a double off the CF wall.  They scored their second run when Scott Kingery led off the third with a HBP.  He advanced to second on a WP.  He moved to third on Kyle Martin’s ground out to the shortstop up the middle.  Zach Green was HBP for a second time, putting runners on the corners.  Kingery scored on a fly ball to shallow center, converting Mitch Walding’s F8 to SF8.  Chace Numata (.269) went 3-3 with a double.

  • #11 Kingery (.268) went 1-3 with a SB (15).
  • #12 Canelo (.231) went 1-4 and committed a throwing error (15).
  • #14 Tocci (.246) went 1-4, and made a diving catch in right center field to retire the leadoff batter in the 9th.
  • #15 Eshelman (4-2, 3.54) – DNP.
  • #20 Tirado – assigned to XST.
  • #21 Garcia (6-2, 1.97) – DNP.

Casimiro only threw 71 pitches in 7.0 innings.  He threw double digit pitches in only 3 innings (15, 12, 10).  He threw 9 pitches twice, and 8 twice.  Twenty-one of the batters he faced were disposed of in 4 pitches or less.  This type of efficiency presents a unique sample to draw from.

Of the 48 strikes he threw –

  • 19 were put in play to record 20 outs,
  • 4 were base hits (the LD 2B, 2 texas league singles, and a swinging bunt),
  • 12 foul balls,
  • 9 called strikes, and
  • 4 swings and misses (1 for a K on an 82 mph SL or CH).

Casimiro didn’t throw a FB over 90 in the first inning (9 pitches).  He threw 44 FB at 87-91, t92 mph.  Only 17 were above 89 mph.  While he only struck out 1 batter, Casimiro recorded 15 outs on ground balls, 4 fly outs, and a pop up.  Three of the last four outs he got were on fly balls, to the track.  That may have had something to do with his being lifted after only 71 pitches.

Will Morris got two ground balls and a pop up in his one inning.

Ulises Joaquin got his 5th save with a little bit of drama.  After Tocci’s diving catch, the next batter lined a double to RF.  Canelo’s throwing error put runners on the corners.  A single to left brought home Bradenton’s only run and left runners on the corners again.  Joaquin bore down and got the final two outs on swinging strike outs.

Kyle Martin left the game after flying out to RF in the first.  He seemed to run well to first base.  Maybe he tweaked something on the swing?  Oblique?  Just guessing.  I hope to know more tomorrow.

Lakewood (26-38) Beat division-leading Hagerstown, 9-3.  Harold Arauz (3-4, 3.38) gave up 2 runs in 5.0 innings on 3 hits, 3 walks, and 3 WP.  He struck out 4 batters.  Leadoff batter Zach Coppola (.379) went 2-5 with 2 RBI.  Jiandido Tromp, Damek Tomscha, Jay Hernandez, Brendon Hatden, and Carlos Duran had 2-hit games.  Duran had 3 RBI.

  • #8 Kilome – DNP.
  • #24 Pujols (.235) DNP.
  • #29 Grullon (.233) went 1-4 with 2 BB and an RBI (15).

Looks like the DSL teams are steal crazy.  Through nine games the DSL Phillies have stolen 22 bases in 36 attempts.  The DSL Phillies2 have stolen 15 bases in 24 attempts.

DSL Phillies  (2-7) Lost to the DSL Dodgers2, 6-3.

  • Dixon Gutierrez (.344) went 0-4
  • Keudy Bocio (.167) went 1-2 with a double, 2 BB, and RBI.
  • Jonathan Guzman (.270) went 0-3.
  • Jean Carlos Valdez – DNP.
  • Jesus De Los Santos – DNP.

DSL Phillies2  (3-6)  Beat the DSL Rays2, 4-3.

  • Luis Ramirez – 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 2nd save.
  • Leonel Aponte (0-1, 2.08) – DNP.
  • Carlos Oropeza (.188) went 0-3 with a BB.
  • Rafael Marchan (.143) DNP.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings:

  • 6/14 – Anthony Vasquez assigned to Lehigh Valley from Reading .
  • 6/14 – Phillies selected the contract of RHP Zach Eflin from Lehigh Valley.
  • Organization Rosters are up to date.


6th-rder David Martinelli, agree on $312,700 (full pick value). Steal at No. 167. Dallas Baptist CF, all-around tools.

 2016 Draft Tracker is available.

78 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 6/14/2016

  1. Zach Green has been HBPs 12 times. 3 in his last 2 games. Ouch!

    If you told me that 64 games into the season, Jan Hernandez and Jia Tromp would be over .250 in BA, I’d have called you a crackpot. But it’s true. Let’s call it stranger than fiction.

    Harold Arauz had another successful outing. 3 BBs is not very good but he seems to have a game every once in a while where BBs are high. He’s young and learning plus he may have been squeezed by the home plate umpire. LKW beat the crap out of Mariano Rivera, the son of the Yankees great Mariano Rivera. 6 hits and 5 ERs in 1 inning of work.

    1. Good game for Ruf. Starting Pitching at Lehigh is starting to worry me. Seems that Thompson and Lively may be the only true prospects.

      It feels weird that Captain Conzens only when 1 for 4. He’s been the headline for a while. Hoskins picked him up nicely. Wrecking ball is the perfect description for 2 2b and a HR. Simply brillint.
      Casimiro gave a Maddux pitching leason last night. Pitching is like real estate. Location, location, location.

      In an interview Arauz once said that he learnt his cutter from his fellow Panamanian idol and future HOF Mariano Rivera. Now I wonder how he felt playing again his son. Only 2 hits in 5 innings is good. 7 ground ball outs to 1 fly ball out is also nice. I wonder what happened with those 3 bb. Lakewood bats woke up finally. Tromp is also wrecking balls in the last few weeks.

  2. Quinn’s leg issues apparently are a continual concern.
    Too much uncertainty for the Phillies.
    Fortunately they have OH to man CF for the foreseeable future…

    1. Not to mention Moniak behind him. Not long ago there was this guy I thought one day would be Odubel with speed his name was Tyson Gillies…

  3. With Hoskins going crazy in AA, naturally I start thinking about what we could get for TJ. Do you guys think he’s done enough to be a trade chip this offseason? Let’s say he ends up with 400 ab, 20 HR, .280 BA. Part B of this question, if combined with Herrera, Eickhoff and a couple more B level guys, could you snag a trout/Stanton type of player with a huge contract?

      1. That actually Spurs another question… Who is the Phillies most valuable player in a trade? Herrera, Franco, Crawford, Alfaro, or Moniak? Rank them in value

        1. Nola

          I’d put Herrera next, but I don’t know if GMs would agree. I read somewhere recently that it takes a while for execs to recognize the value of an “out of nowhere” guy, which Herrera definitely is. After that, probably Moniak, then Alfaro (who has more questions despite being closer).

        2. Right now, I would think Nola is our most valuable commodity. A front line start who is cost controlled is very valuable. Think about it this way. Look at what we got for Cole Hamels. Nola is performing similar to Cole but for a 10th of the cost. Obviously Hamels benefited from a more proven track record.

          After that, I would say Herrera. I would actually fully be on board with trading Hererra depending on the return.

      2. Yeah a Trout trade starts with Nola AND Crawford and gets more painful from there. Would gut our system. doesn’t make sense for a team in our stage.

        the only teams that have both the farm and the closeness to competing to do this type of trade are the Cubs and RedSox.

        1. A trade for Trout right now just doesn’t make sense and I agree with most everyone’s assessment that it would take too much.

          I think it would take a young major league controllable starting pitcher (Nola), a big arm, young reliever (Appell), a middle of the order type prospect who is near ML ready or in the majors (Crawford), a high end prospect with big upside (Alfaro), and a top prospect at a lower level (Randolph), and probably another throw in like Kilome. I think Crawford, Alfaro, Nola, Appell, Randolph, and Kilome would get it done, but I would not do that.

          1. That’s tough tho. It would hurt the most to give up Nola. Appel, Randolph, Kilome haven’t done enough to call them anywhere close to untouchable (Yes they are guys who have been ranked in the top 100). Crawford well he’s struggling against the best pitching he’s faced . . and struggling badly. I’m going to get crushed for this but I don’t think Crawford ever becomes anything more then a complimentary piece . . which is fine if he wasn’t being touted as one of the best prospects in baseball. I just don’t think he will give much at the MLB level offensively
            (.260/.340/.380) with less then 15HRs a year.

            1. IMO, most posters do not think Crawford will be leading the league in hitting.
              …you have him at 260/.340/.380…….I can see 20/25 pts higher in BA but 30/35 pts higher for the other two……and your estimation of 15HRs or less could be correct.
              And I would be happy with that.

            2. Sorry about the “???”, that was my mistake in the name field.

              I dunno I just don’t see the elite prospect that everyone else does (or that most do). And i’m perfectly fine with a solid defensive SS who hits .260/.340/.380 with 10-15HRs (15 at peak). I really hope that i’m wrong (which wouldn’t be the first time, see Jason Groome haha). I just think he ends up more of a complimentary piece.

    1. When you ask that, ask yourself what team couldn’t put together a better package. The return package for a Trout would have to start with a young All Star (like a Manny Machado) and go up from there. Stanton would involve a somewhat lesser package (maybe starting with a Carlos Correia). Quickly you realize the Phils are not able to compete in those discussions. To carry out the trade you propose would be a firing offense for new Angels GM Billy Eppler. He’d never work in baseball again.

      1. I am also assuming Hoskins moves to AAA inJuly and continues what he’s doing there. We also have Stasi as q stop gap, and Cozens as a 1b option as well. And the FO has talked about free agency at first base

        1. You’re assuming that Hoskins, Stassi, Cozens can hit MLB pitching where as TJ is ALREADY doing it now. It would be better to see if we can trade Hoskins for something else that we need.

      2. If you traded for Mike Trout you’d have to give up so much you’d basically defeat the entire purpose of the rebuild. Here’s what a Trout trade would look like: Velasquez, Franco, Crawford, Hoskins, Eshelman, Randolph and Kilome – and perhaps more. Seriously, it would gut your rebuild.

        This isn’t football or basketball, where one player can literally change the course of the organization. Such a trade would do more harm than good and it would eat into your salary structure.

        The Cubs figured all of this out. Talent is king and trading young talent for established players is usually a losing proposition. You’re better off waiting and getting the few added pieces you need in free agency – the cost there, even for top talent, is just money and a draft pick (assuming you’re not in the top 10).

          1. I don’t think the Angels take that Trade. I think it would start with Nola and Franco. Then, you would have to add Crawford and Rudolph. As well as another person like Thompson. 2 Major league high ceiling guys. 3 Minor league high ceiling guys.

            1. Teams have 40 player off-season limits which is why 6-7 for 1 deals don’t happen. For Trout, a team would have to offer back a position player that virtually every team would covet. There’s a ‘homer’ tone to the discussions here. A team might like one of Franco, Nola, Herrera, Crawford or Randolph and could easily figure out a way to acquire them short of trading a Trout-calibre player — even with a 3 team trade where Trout lands somewhere else. The conversation has to start with a player any team would want (Machado, Bryant, K. Seager) and go from there. Sadly, we don’t have that kind of player.

      3. yeah no! I can’t even entertain any conversations involving Mike Trout. Would I love to have him absolutely. I’d also like to hit that Megamillions Jackpot for $310 mil

        1. DMAR…..go back to that Trenton grocery stop and buy a ticket there….lightning could strike twice! 🙂

      1. Yes- at the end of 2017 the Phils could get the guy I want, Manny Machado, as a FA (assuming he doesn’t sign before then), then move Franco to 1B. if Joseph turns out to be a stud, you could move Franco for a position of need. I’d much rather do that than gut the system for Trout

        1. Is Machado durable enough to invest that kind of coin? Seems every time I look, he’s either on the DL or dinged up from day to day.

        2. The Phils have so much money to spend in the future it’s hard to fathom there is anything they couldn’t afford. The only way they won’t be able to afford several big time free agents is if their own homegrown players develop and play so great at the big league level that they lock them up to long term, high dollar deals that buy out their arbitration years and a few years of free agency. That would be a great problem to have.

          Short of that, this team could go get a #1 starting pitcher at $30M per year and a Manny Machado type for similar money and they’d only be spending about 1/3 or 1/4 of the money they could allocate to the major league payroll.

          1. BuddyB… you really believe the Angelos’ will let the face of their franchise become a free agent? I am wiling to bet on his 25th birthday next year he signs a 7yr/ upwards of $150M contract extension. Just as the Nats will not let Harper leave outside the Beltway, the O’s are going to keep Machado in the Harbor

            1. Tim …yes money talks, but the free agent market for position players , those of the superstar youthful nature, has also changed. Teams look to lock them up with their second contract for extended number of years… you will be able to get those stars at 32/33-year old but rarely, if ever, get a superstar position player at their first FA year. Now the newer ‘opt-out’ clauses may alter that, but that type of contract is just catching on.

    1. I love how Hoskins is unproven because of the level at which he is playing, but Joseph is already a “20 home run guy” because he hit the ball well in his first 100 big league plate appearances.

      If it’s all about proving it on the diamond, then Joseph isn’t a 20 home run guy. He’s a 7 home run guy.

      1. I didn’t say he was a 20 HR guy, but he’s a big leaguer who’s hitting right now. Hoskins has done nothing above AA.

  4. I like Williams walks that seems to be a big plus for his approach. Some nice starting pitching again, there should be some movement again where or who I’m leaving up too Joe Jordan.

  5. Franco will not end up at 1B. Once upon a time I thought that would be a possibility but not after seeing him play it at this level.

    1. I agree that Franco will probably stay at 3B for the near term (say 3 or 4 seasons), but after that a move to 1B is likely IMO.

  6. Hoskins is burning hot…7 HRs in last 46PAs at a 465BA clip …but those 12Ks still haunting him this year…still sitting at 26% vs RHPs.

  7. One man wrecking crew last 11 games

    Hoskins .447. 8HR, 19 rbi

    Article on front page of about Hoskins , if someone else wants to cut and paste it I’m not good at it on my phone.

  8. Statistically, Rhys is having a great year. Rhys’ splits are terrific. His Road game OPS and his LHP OPS are better than his home and RHP OPS. They are all close but his stats are legit. His 26% k rate is a tad high, but not a red flag for someone with a .910 OPS.

    Whenever I see breakout stats, I always look at splits. That is why I am not sold on Cozens, who has horrible LHP splits and does far better at home then road.

    1. But v1….’he swings thru average fastballs’. 🙂
      Hoskins does have an uncharacteristically high Krate for him.
      AA RHPs are the best he has seen in his baseball career, so adjustments could be necessary for him.
      But everything else seems to be working well for him.

      1. k rate is definitely higher than normal for him, but not terrible for a player with that power. and i think, it is trending down. he k’d a lot to start the season as he was adjusting.

    2. On the overall line, this is pretty much what I expected Hoskins to do (his OPS seems to always be between .910 and .925) but this is certainly not how I expected him to end up at this point – man is he ever on fire. I knew he was a solid hitter, but the question was whether the power would start to spike – that appears to be happening. Yup, between him and Joseph, I think we’ll be fine at first (and even better if the NL adopts the DH, which, at this point, I think it should and hope it will).

      1. I hate to burst the Tommy Joseph bubble, because it is such a great story, but his stats tell a very different story. His k rate is high (28%), but worse, his walk rate is anemic (2.4%) resulting in an unacceptable OB% of .282. The power is nice, but those stats are not a productive MLB first baseman.

        1. Yup and I went back to see what he looked liked in seasons where he had 400+ PA’s. Age 18 .290 OBP; Age 19 .317 OBP and age 20 .317

          Definitely capable of doing damage on balls in the zone but chasing out of it too often.

          1. DMAR…..his first three years…18-19-20….all well above his age appropriate level.
            Low A @18, Hi-A @ 19 and AA at 20, then the 2012 July trade to the Phillies and Reading.
            So those metrics have to be taken in a little different light….and along with the fact his catching duties were also a further work-load on him.
            His first 1500 PAs in pro ball produced 50 HR s approx….and he had 15 HRs in only 100 PAs at Horizon HS in Arizona and batted .494

            1. The other side fact…..Phillies never really said how many concussions he may have suffered prior to the trade when he was in the Giants org and even playing HS sports in Arizona.

            2. Look at you Romus always the optimist. We’ll see over the next couple of months if he can slow the game down, see more pitches and layoff the outside sliders.

        2. Nothing I would love to see more than TJs career take off. I’m just not on the bandwagon yet. If he only hit .260-.270 but walked 10-15% of the time, that would be fine. 20-25 HRs reasonable expectation….we’ll find out by end of the season.

          1. ….and Klentak has stated publicly that Howard will not be released. So no sense in wondering about other 1b options for now.

            1. If the Phillies are committed to see what they have at 1B with TJ, there wouldn’t be enough ABs for whoever is backing him up. Let Howard get his 6 ABs per week.

        3. I agree on TJ, I suspect he is a guy that is going to really struggle later this year as teams adjust to him. Having said that, playing him now is the right move and I’m very happy for him after all that he’s been through. I don’t think his eye and pitch recognition is as good as it needs to be but he does a decent job of hitting mistakes. I think what he’ll end up being is a bench or part time player in the big leagues that is better suited for the AL due to his limited defensive flexibility. I know we all hope he turns out to be more than that and considering the lack of options the Phils have this year and at least early next year, I’d keep running him out there to find out. I certainly wouldn’t waste many or any ABs at first base right now on Howard or Ruf.

  9. Another write up from the Baseball America Prospect Report email for games played Tuesday, June 14th:

    Ranfi Casimiro, rhp, Phillies. The 6-foot-8 righthander finally got to high Class A in his sixth season in the organization after signing as a free agent from the Dominican in June 2011. Despite his size, Casimiro is not overpowering, throwing his fastball in the low 90s, but his secondary offerings still need refinement. His curveball flashes at least average but is still a work in progress. Soon to be 24, Casimiro is having his most consistent season to date and that continued Tuesday when he pitched seven innings of four-hit ball, walking none and striking out one. For the season, Casimiro has struck out 53 and walked 15 in 60 innings.

  10. Back to Quinn a minute. Is there any update? Maybe he was pulled because it was his first day back? And, he was upset for that reason. The team was just being exercising caution? I hope that is it! Love the kid, but as someone once said, “the number 1 ability is availability”.

  11. I’m much more confident in the organization’s capacity for identifying and evaluating than I am in the development/coaching department. How other organizations can seemingly have this “organic” way of acquiring, teaching, and bringing up players the concept of working pitchers. We don’t or so it seems.

  12. I just looked at Williamsport’s roster and the only offense I see is Encarnacion. I see a couple of starting pitchers and that is about it. No new draftees yet.

  13. re: Ranfi Casimiro. The last couple of games, I have been a little concerned about his decrease in velocity and lower strike out totals. He had been throwing more pitches 90and above and averaging 1 K per inning. I found out today that they have had him throwing his 2-seamer more often over the past couple games. That would explain the velo drop, the K decrease, and the increase in ground outs.

    1. It’s good to see a Sweaney sighting. There will be at least the one OF drafted in the 6th Rd who will get placed here.

  14. Martinelli will be best position player going to Williamsport. Need to sign some more college position players for Williamsport.

  15. Its awesome to go to and pull up the reading stats and see 3 guys with numbers that look like the following

    .310/.322/.488/.810 10 2B 6HR 35RBI
    .290/.367/.600/.667 19 2B 19HR 53RBI (13SB to 1 CS)
    .286/.347/.563/.910 15 2B 17HR 52RBI

    I wonder if there’s a more productive 3-5 in AA or even the minors right now . . .

  16. JPC 3-2-3-0 tonight with 2 doubles, single, walk, stolen base. Kind of game that could serve as a turning point. Avg up to. 198 after being around .165 a few days ago. Very encouraging….

  17. Here are a few moves I think the organization should make now that we have all of the new draftees coming in:

    Reading- release Tom Windle, Reinier Roibal, and Gregory Infante and replace them with Alexis Rivero, Yacksel Rios, & Joey DeNato
    Clearwater- replace Rivero, Rios, & DeNato with Luis Morales, Zach Morris, & Drew Anderson…release Samuel Hiciano and replace him with Damek Tomscha
    Lakewood- replace Morales, Morris, Anderson, and Tomscha with 4 college draft guys

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