Box Score Recap – 7/28/2015

The Phillies completed their first move as they approach the trade deadline.  They have traded popular closer Jonathan Papelbon to the Washington Nationals for RHP Nick Pivetta.  The Phillies kicked in $4.5M this season to offset part of Papelbon’s salary.  Papelbon negotiated a guranteed $11M for the 2016 season, however $3M will be deferred to 2017.  Papelbon has been assured that he will be the closer.  Here’s a report on Pivetta from the Washington Post on July 24th.

Lehigh Valley (47-57) lost to the Scranton RailRiders 5-3.  Jesse Biddle gave up 2 runs (1 ER) on 1 hit and 5 walks in 5 innings.  He struck out four.  Cesar Jimenez blew the save in two-thirds of an inning.  Nefi Ogando came in to strand 2 runners and pitch shutout ball the rest of the way.  Aaron Altherr (.308) went 2-3 with a walk and RBI.  Brian Bogusevic and Chris McGuinness also had multi-hit games.

Reading (55-48) beat the Erie SeaWolves 4-3 in a walkoff.  Chris Leroux gave up 2 runs over 7 innings.  Colton Murray (6-1, 2.52) came in to pick up the win when Kelly Dugan drove in the winning run in the bottom of the ninth.  Dugan (.321) went 1-4 with a walk and RBI.  Cam Perkins (.263) went 0-2 with 2 walks.  Brock Stassi (.318) went 2-4 with 2 doubles.  Andrew Knapp (.326) went 1-3 with a double, walk, and 2 RBI.

Clearwater (58-45) split a double header with the Bradenton Marauders.

Game One.  4-1 win.  Victor Arano gave up 1 unearned run in 6 innings.  Ulises Joaquin picked up his 13th save.  Carlos Tocci (.310) went 2-4.  Malquin Canelo went 2-2 with a sacrifice, SF, and RBI.  Andrew Pullin (.267) went 1-4 with a double and RBI.  Rhys Hoskins (.298) went 1-3 with a double, walk, and RBI.

Game Two.  2-1 loss.  Yacksel Rios pitched five, three-hit innings giving up a first inning run.  He struck out five.  Alexis Rivero came in and continued to show inconsistency putting batters away in high-leverage situations at this level.  He has blown 2 of 3 save opportunities but has walked one and struck out nine 6.1 innings.  He has given up 8 hits and 5 ER for a 7.11 ERA.  Carlos Tocci (.310) went 1-3. Malquin Canelo went 1-3 with an RBI.  Dylan Cozens (.275) went 1-2 with a walk.

Lakewood (52-48) lost to the Kannapolis Intimidators 3-1.  Ranfi Casimiro gave up 3 runs (2 ER) on 7 hits and 3 walks in 6.2 innings.  Scott Kingery (.269) went 1-4 with an RBI.  Kyle Martin (.350) went 0-4.  Herlis Rodriguez (.296) went 2-3 with a walk.

Williamsport (25-12) beat the Lowell Spinners 6-5.  Sutter McLoughlin gor his first win with 1.1 perfect innings.  He struck out all 4 batters he faced.  Robert Tasin picked up his 7th save.  Zachary Coppola (.330) went 1-3.  Gregori Rivero went 1-3 with a HR (3) and 2 RBI.

GCL Phillies (20-10) dropped two games to the GCL Pirates by identical 4-3 scores although by different scripts.  They fell behind in the first game 4-0 and came up short.  They took a 3-0 lead into the 7th in the 2nd game and failed to get an out.

Game One.  Felix Paulino took the loss.  He gave up a run Monday before the game was suspended.  Adonis Medina took over Tuesday and gave up 3 runs in 6 innings.  Nck Fanti struck out 3 in 2 one-hit innings.  Juan Luis (.300) went 2-3 with 2 doubles and an RBI.  Lucas Williams (.278) went 0-2 with 2 walks.  Jonathan Arauz (.286) went 1-5.

Game Two.  The Phillies made the most of their 3 hits.  They converted a double by DH Cornelius Randolph and home runs by Edgar Cabral and Bryan Martelo in the fourth to take a 3-0 lead.  Carlos Indriago pitched a one-hitter in his 5 innings.  Horace Stubblefield stuck out 2 in a perfect 6th.  However, he couldn’t record an out in the seventh.  An inning-opening walk and back-to-back singles started the scoring.  A three-run HR sealed the walkoff victory for the Pirates.  Randolph (.298) went 1-3 with a double.  Cabral (.278) went 1-3 with a HR (2) and 2 RBI.  Martelo (.290) went 1-3 with a HR (1) and RBI.

Stubblefield went into the game with an ERA of 0.00 in 10 IP.  He had given up 5 hits, 2 walks, and struck out twelve.  He had 4 saves in as many opportunities before today.

DSL Phillies (27-23) lost to the DSL Astros Blue 9-0.

VSL Phillies (26-36) beat the VSL Tigers 8-0. Miguelangel Bastidas (4-4, 2.75) pitched a one-hitter through six innings.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings –

  • Traded RHP Jonathan Papelbon and $4.5M to Washington Nationals for RHP Nick Pivetta.
  • Chris Leroux assigned to Reading Fightin Phils from Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • VSL Phillies activated RF Juan Avila from the 7-day disabled list.
  • Jesmuel Valentin assigned to Williamsport Crosscutters from Clearwater Threshers.  This may be a paper move.  Mitch Rupert tweeted that Valentin isn’t expected to report.  However, the Williamsport roster currently stands at 31 players and only 30 players are permitted.

82 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 7/28/2015

  1. Biddle looked good after the first. I don’t know what happened at the start of the game (although it was hot as balls), but he just couldn’t throw strikes. Don’t know if the ump was bad, but I did think there were some pitches right over the plate that weren’t called strikes – I was in Section 16, so I didn’t have a good angle.

  2. Come on. How about stop making excuses for Biddle’s poor performances. I’d love to see him gain the place that was expected of him when we chose him our #1 draftee. But every step forward is followed promptly by a large step backward. We’ve heard problems that he’s had with injuries. With extended time on the DL off and on over the last few seasons. With all of the considerations given to him by the Phils and full of patience he still has little or no command of his pitches. His history has been that he virtually collapses when faced by men on base or errors by teammates. His walks are sure to happen in every game he pitches.

    At this time–after the long time he’s been in our system with little consistent success– IMO he will never prove to be a MLB pitcher…and I hope I’m wrong….but I don’t think so. Hope for a miracle.

    1. Neither do I, but the first inning was BAD, which I knew might happen…and quite honestly, I expected it after his last couple starts, given his past performance & well-dcoumented consistency issues. The leadoff batter was a 5 pitch walk (one strike.) I don’t remember what happened with the second batter (I’d have to watch the game again), but he had a 4 pitch walk after that.

      I remarked on Twitter that the first inning was Aumont-like, although he did start throwing more strikes after getting out of it. I was thinking “bullpen?”, since it’s clear he doesn’t have what it takes as a starter. Unfortunately, I’m not sure that would help; if he can’t throw strikes & has poor command after 5 years in the minors, I’m not sure it can ever be fixed.

    2. You over analyze everything… hit in five innings…..his stuff must have been at least mediocre!
      As for C&C…it will come
      He definitely isn’t a Randy Johnson….but it only took Randy Johnson 6 years in the majors before both his control and command came around…at age 28.

      1. I figured you to be much more savvy. Phillipe Aumont had a 2.35 ERA in AAA while only giving up a .210 BA against. How well did his stuff play in the bigs?

        If that is an MLB game, he gives up 2-4 runs in that first inning. Many pitchers can navigate through a minor league lineup but that type of command will NOT work in the bigs. If you read reports on him, his command issues do not always show up in walks. He misses high a lot. That is a recipe for getting crushed.

        His poor command is the cause of his inconsistent starts. It is the canary in the coal mine. You can choose to ignore it if you want and get your hopes up.

        1. v!…….will have to see how it plays out.
          You could be correct, since the early metric returns reflect a poor projection.
          However, there are plenty of examples of specifically lefties in the past annals of MLB history, who have the same issues and some are now either in the HoF and have had plusWAR careers.

          1. no one is saying there is a zero percent chance. the point is, probability. the probability that a pitcher with poor command at 23 becomes a HoF pitcher is very very low. non-zero, but low.

            1. The chances of any pitcher at 23 becoming a HOF pitcher is very low. Question with Biddle is can he clean-up his mechanics to the point where he can become a +war player.

              It’s not looking good at this point but he’s also still 23..

    3. I watched the game on milbtv, and Biddle was being squeezed the whole game. It’s no an excuse, it’s a fact.

        1. He’s had trouble with command pretty much his entire career and has walked at least four batters in 3 out of 4 starts in AAA. Do bad umpires follow him around?

        2. Ah, right. I forgot about that. My bad.

          Honestly, I thought he might have been getting squeezed, but I’ll watch the game on to make sure. Never hurts to see things from another angle.

          Biddle allowed one hit, despite the 5 walks, so it’s not like he had a horrendous game. Obviously he needs to cut down on the walks, but if it’s out of his control due to the home plate ump, just gotta deal with it. If it’s his command, I would assume/hope that can be fixed.

          1. If it was a lack of control you would have seen it filter through to hits as he compensates by putting more pitches down the middle.

            The first inning was bad, for whatever reason, so the control issues were not the whole game.

            It may have been confidence, it may be the umpire, or it could have been the coaches telling him to work on something.

            Nola’s last start in AAA was horrible but the coaches had him stop throwing the curve ball after the first inning limiting his pitch options.

            1. My take – BIddle has mentioned in interviews that he thinks too much.

              Biddle needs to stop overthinking and just pitch. Everything is fine with the exception of him mentally overthinking batters. You can tell when it happens during games. It is not a loss of focus but too much focus. Relax and pitch.

      1. I watched the game as well, don’t agree that he was getting squeezed all game long. Here’s what happened to those that didn’t see the game,

        Biddle has a terrible 1st, he tried to go low and away but was missing badly. The FB had movement but no juice was sitting 87, 88 mostly. After his bad throw over to 1st that advanced the runner to 3rd, they sent the medical staff out but Biddle said he was fine and didn’t want to throw a warm up pitch. He continued to struggle but then finally got out of the inning. At one point after 25 pitches only 9 were strikes.

        After that though he got into a grove, sent down 9 in a row and just looked like a different pitcher from the 1st lining. Where he did get squeezed was during a 2-1 count and it looked to me like it was a strike but was called a ball to make it 3-1 and then he ended up walking him and the next batter.

        I’ve seen all of Biddle’s starts at LV and a few at Reading, I don’t know if they track this stat but I wonder how many batters he’s faced that he’s had a 3 ball count, cause it just seems like way too many times he’s either at a full count or a 3-1 count. I can see why others are concerned as it often seems to take a lot of pitches in every outing. It makes me wonder how he will do at the majors if he runs so many full counts.

        1. I stand by my comment that he was being squeezed the whole game, especially on the corners.They were either strikes on the outside corner or they were strikes on the inside corner, but the umpire was calling them balls.

      2. Here’s a fact for you: every pitcher gets squeezed. Another fact: not every pitcher walks 5 batters when they’re being squeezed.

        Command issues are nothing new for Biddle. If this was Aaron Nola or someone with good command you could chalk it up to “being squeezed” and just missing but for Biddle it is just an excuse.

        He’s a AAAA pitcher at this point until he can start throwing consistently well located strikes.

  3. Could Biddle be moved to the pen? He hasn’t really shown the mental toughness to handle a high leverage inning but maybe he could become a lefty specialist… Maybe his stuff will tick up?
    I’d assume he gets a September call up and an inning or two out of the pen but at this point he hasn’t shown he’s deserving or ready.

    1. I don’t understand the line of thinking that if a guy has poor command you put him in the pen? Doesn’t make sense. Smaller margin for error as a reliever.

      The reason starters get moved to pen is because they lack a good 3rd pitch. Not because they have poor command.

      1. Actually, it is one of the reasons. The thinking is that, in shorter stints, the pitcher will have greater velocity, only have to focus on throwing two pitches which he will presumably be able to better control/command. Another reason, as you correctly noted, is the lack of an effective third pitch and yet another reason is the inability to hold top velocity more than a few innings.

        1. starting pitchers with poor command who become relievers generally become relief pitchers with poor command. i agree that stuff plays up, but not command.

          1. It’s not that the command improves – it’s that with increased velocity your command doesn’t have to be as good for you to be succesful. A 97 MPH FB doesn’t have to be as well placed as a 93 MPH FB.

            1. it really depends on what type of pitcher you are looking for. relief pitchers who throw 97 with poor command are not elite pitchers. they are average RPs (see Diekman, Jake). that is because most MLB hitters can hit a fastball regardless of pitch speed or will spit on a fast pitch out of the zone. location is everything for most mlb hitters. which is why Pap has maintained dominant stats while only throwing 92 and Diekman has a 5+ ERA.

            2. Yeah, but now you are changing the argument. The issue was whether inadequate command was one reason to convert a starter to a reliever. And it is one reason, but not the only reason.

              For what it’s worth, however, I don’t think Biddle has any future as a reliever – he doesn’t have the pitches or profile for a reliever. If he has to relieve, he’s a middle innings guy and is essentially worthless anyway. He either sinks or swims as a starter.

      2. Another reason for a move to the pen is a pitcher like Biddle would likely pitch out of the stretch and ditch the windup to help with mechanical repeatability.

        I’ve talked to two scouts about Biddle – one last year and one this year – and they are not impressed and both think he’ll end up a reliever.

  4. I’ve been wondering why they don’t put Biddle in the pen for a few months to see if it would help him resolve some of his command issues.Could it be that if he would fail there, that his confidence would sink even lower?
    I agree 100% with Art,I think he’s overated by us,some of the excuses for him on here…especially with his control issues,I could see him head for the showers early at the big league level.

    1. Very unclear how moving Biddle to the bullpen would help him resolve his command issues. As someone else noted, relievers generally are in higher leverage situations where walks are more harmful.

      Biddle just needs to keep working on his craft. It this point it appears unlikely that he’ll ever be a useful MLB pitcher due to his inconsistency, but moving him to the pen would just be counter-productive IMO.

  5. Moving Leroux to Reading and adding the new guy, Pivetta, there also, stacks a lot of pitchers on Reading. I’m wondering if Eflin is headed to the DL or a pitcher or two will be traded with Hamels or Revere or Frenchie? It’s all just speculation at this point.

  6. Good to see Cornelius back. MLB updated their Phillies top 30 and Randolph was #3.

    01. Crawford
    02. Nola
    03. Randolph
    04. Quinn
    05. Kilome
    06. Eflin
    07. Kimberly
    08. Pinto
    09. Lively
    10. Pivetta
    11. Windle
    12. Knapp
    13. Imhoff
    14. Biddle
    15. Sanberg

    I don’t get the Windle love. Would have put in Tocci or Grullon in his spot, but not a bad list considering its MLB.

    1. VOR…might as well throw that out…MLB will need to rework the whole list for all the teams again next week after the trade deadline is over……who dreams up reworking a midseason update a week before a trade deadline…..amazing forethought!

      1. When I read Kimberly in the list above, I asked myself if we’d picked somebody else up. I think Kimberly Kingery would be a good wife’s name.

      1. MLB scouting and projections have puzzled me in the past.
        They seem to want to get the jump on BA, Fansgraph and BP…and sometimes rush things a little too much at the expense of accuracy.
        But glad Rando is at #99.
        Have to assume the other nine first round picks before him are also in that top 100 somewhere…correct?.

      2. v1……’Pretty impressive’…but look where Kyle Tucker is on the list…wasn’t it your twitter scout friend who said he would take Rando at this point, over Tucker if Tucker doesn’t begin to hit the off-speed stuff?

      3. Being top 100 is not out of the ordinary for a top 10 pick. BA usually has the top 15 picks of the previous draft in it’s pre-season top 100, no matter how they perform in SS ball.

      1. And come Monday the whole list gets shelved anyway….a Hamels/Revere trade may impact the Phillies top 30 I would assume.

      2. Agreed. His defense alone should have moved him higher, and his developing bat should have entrenched him in the top-10. Windle at 11 and Sandberg at 15 are very strange.

    2. In a top 15, Altherr, Tocci, and Hoskins all belong. I have all of them rated above Windle, Imhoff, Biddle and probably Sandberg too. Knapp’s surge is a huge development for the team. He’s not only demonstrating a better hit tool, his power and plate discipline are coming along. Part of this is the “Reading effect” but not all of it – the guy has really come on as a hitter.

          1. That’s part of it. He is a college junior, playing in A ball. He’s doing what he is supposed to do, but the bar for 22 year old, 1st base only hitters, in A ball, is extremely high.

            1. I think he’s doing quite a bit more than just doing well – he’s doing very well and he’s tearing through the system quickly with a strong hit tool, plate discipline and decent power. If he can show more in game power, he’s got a chance to be very, very good.

            2. If Rhys qualified he would rank:
              – 1st in the FSL in OPS by 78 points
              – 1st in the FSL in OB% by 19 points

              His K/walk ratio is 1.2

              He is 22 years old (so age appropriate) in his first full pro season.

              He absolutely belongs in our top 15 and potentially in our top 10, even as a 1B.

        1. I politely agree to disagree. It all depends on how you project Hoskins. I view him as a potential regular first baseman in the majors, with perhaps a little more upside than that If I turn out to be right, in retrospect, it will certainly have justified a top 15 ranking.

          1. Yes, I understand the criticism. If he doesn’t hit enough, he’ll be, at best, a AAAA player, which would not justify a top 15 ranking. I think he will hit enough, however. We’ll see.

        2. I disagree. Yes, the 1B bar for offense is very high, but he’s clearing that bar right now. The few scouting reports on him that have filtered have been mostly positive. Good bat speed, solid approach, plus power; in other words, he has the ingredients to make it.

          Besides, in the 10-15 range he’d, imo, be compared with guys like Biddle, Pivetta, Lively, Canelo, Garcia; all guys with big questions or mediocre ceilings. He definitely belongs in that group, imo.

          1. Agreed – there’s no way I would make a top 15 without Hoskins right now. The question is whether he makes the top 10 – it could go either way.

          2. I’d probably agree with you somewhat, if the organization moved him to AA. That would show what they think of him as a prospect. Hoskins hitting High A pitching is good, but it isn’t all that impressive to me.
            Regarding his position as a top 15 prospect: I doubt Hoskins has more value in trade, than anybody currently in MLB’s Phillies’ top 20. Trade value is part of the component for me when ranking prospects, and I have a hard time believing any team would ask for Hoskins over Biddle, Windle, Altherr, Toçci or Grullon in a trade.

            1. It’s a very interesting point (trade value as a component of prospect ranking).

            2. That’s a fair point on trade value. Although I have some problems with the MLB list. Tocci is an easy top 10 prospect for me and Grullon is right around there.

              Other than that, obviously it would come down to internal evaluations. Altherr has some value since he could probably be in the majors shortly as a 25th man, but I think most teams probably see him as a bench guy ultimately. Biddle, Windle, Sandberg… I don’t think they would have a ton of trade value and I think some teams would take Hoskins over them depending on their needs and evaluations.

      1. Knapp wasn’t putting up numbers in CLW that suggested he was ready to move to AA so I thought it curious they promoted him. I can’t be the only one who thought that I’m sure. Glad he’s doing well though as he’s putting up good road numbers as you mentioned.

        1. Perfect example of why just looking at box scores as a gauge for when a player should be promoted doesn’t work, especially in the minors. There are a number of hurdles a player must clear before moving up. Only some of those are offensive production or even on-field production.

    1. Yeah I would put him at 4 right now behind Crawford, Kilome and Randolph. Nola not listed as a graduate.

    2. Definitely top 10. Top 5 is a bit aggressive, but I could understand the reasoning.

  7. I probably would have Tocci somewhere around 10. He’s certainly doing a good job, but, unless he fills out some, I still think he’s going to have some significant limitations with the bat. Ironically, right now (assuming he doesn’t fill out quite a bit), his apparent ceiling is basically another Ender Inciarte, a player we discarded. Unless he develops power or Roman Quinn does not develop as I believe he will, I think Tocci will end up with another organization.

    1. Well that just means we will have the discussion again at the end of the week not that it is worthless now.

  8. Can someone tell me why they think Hoskins is not another Rizzotti/Ruf? I’m not trying to hate on the dude and I know the guy is killing it in A ball but so did those guys, what separates him from the others?

    1. Apples and oranges. Hoskins is 22 in his first full pro season and he’s hitting extremely well in Clearwater.

      Rizz was 23 and Ruf was 24 in their first seasons in Clearwater and neither one hit well; hey both had to repeat the level. So Hoskins is hitting better at a younger age.

    2. Rizzotti and Ruf were two years older than Hoskins when they were killing it in Clearwater.

      1. Bingo – so far, it’s not a close comparison. At a similar age, Hoskins is blowing both of those guys away.

    1. Cozens not on MLB Phillies top 30….he is not even remotely a prospect anymore…might as well stop talking about him. 🙂

          1. Not age …ranking by MLB…I know how old he is.
            FWIW…Kelly Dugan is 21… the ranking.
            Stay with us here dude.

  9. 2015: Cornelius Randolph’s 1st 104 professional PA’s (GCL): .883 OPS, .424 wOBA, 15.2/16.2 BB/K

    2013: J.P. Crawford’s 1st 106 professional PA’s (GCL): .894 OPS, .428 wOBA, 14.2/14.2 BB/K

    Crawford plays a far more important position, obviously, but the parallels at the plate between a consensus top 10 prospect in all of baseball and this year’s first rounder are pretty exciting — particularly considering that Randolph’s bat is showing more pop than Crawford’s in the early going (.167 ISO vs. .111 for J.P.).

    Sure, sure, sample size, yada yada yada … I feel really, really good about Randolph’s future.

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