Box Score Recap – 6/29/2015

Lehigh Valley (31-48) beat the Scranton RailRiders 8-1.  Aaron Nola pitched five innings and left with a 7-0 lead.  His line was – 5.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 4 K, 90 pitches, 54 strikes.  Nefi Ogando and Adam Loewen pitched three shutout innings.  Cesar Jimenez gave up the ‘Riders only run.  Aaron Altherr (.320) went 1-4 with a double, walk, and an RBI.  Gabriel Lino went 2-4 with 2 doubles and an RBI. 

Reading (40-36) lost the first game of their double header against the Portland Sea Dogs  5-4 on a walkoff single surrendered by Joely Rodriguez.  Zach Eflin went 6.0 innings, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 82 pitches, 63 strikes.  Colton Murray pitched two, one-hit innings and struck out two.  J.P. Crawford went 0-5 and didn’t reach base for only the second time all season across two levels.  Andrew Knapp went 1-3 with a walk and 3 RBI.  KC Serna and Brock Stassi had 2 hits each.  Kelly Dugan went 1-3 with a walk.

The Phils won game two 6-1.  Mark Leiter got his first AA win.  His complete game line was – 7.0 IP, 8 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 HR, 85 pitches, 54 strikes.  Crawford went 1-3 with a walk and an RBI.  Dugan (.377) went 2-3 with 2 RBI.  Brian Pointer entered as a PH for the DH and went   2-2 with his 9th HR.

Clearwater (41-34) beat the Charlotte Stone Crabs 3-1.  Hoby Milner got the start.  He was on a 50 pitch/3 inning limit.  He struck out one and allowed 2 singles.  Milner reached his three inning limit on 29 pitches, 22 strikes.  Yacksel Rios got the win.  He pitched 4.0 innings, allowed 1 run on 2 hits, and struck out two.  Edubray Ramos pitched 2.0 shutout innings to record his 7th save.

Andrew Pullin went 3-5 with a double and 2 RBI.  Malquin Canelo went 1-4 with a double and an RBI.  Willians Astudillo enterd the game tied for second for the FSL batting lead with a .310 average.  He went 2-4.  Chase Harris also went 2-4.  Carlos Tocci went 1-5.  Rhys Hoskins went 0-4.

Pullin fouled a ball off his foot in the ninth inning.  He completed his at bat but was replaced in the field by Aaron Brown.  Before the game, Clearwater Threshers placed RF Dylan Cozens on the 7-day disabled list retroactive to June 26, 2015.

Lakewood (36-37)  lost to the Hickory Crawdads 5-4.  Yoel Mecias gave up all 5 runs on a pair of home runs before recording an out.  After he did get the first out, he gave up a walk and a single.  He departed with the following line – 0.1 IP, 4 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 3 BB, 0 K, 2 HR, WP. Austin Davis and Calvin Rayburn allowed 2 hits over the remaining 7.2 innings.

Scott Kingery went 0-4.  Kyle Martin went 1-5.  Cord Sandberg went 1-4.  Damek Tomscha and Emmanuel Marrero had 2 hits each.  Jiandido Tromp went 0-3 with 2 RBI.  Drew Stankiewicz and Gustavo Martinez contributed a hit and RBI each.

Williamsport (10-0) beat the Mahoning Valley Scrappers 5-2.  Mitch Gueller threw six innings of  5-hit ball.  He allowed 2 runs (1 unearned), walked one, and struck out five.  Skylar Hunter pitched a perfect seventh, Feliberto Sanchez a one-hit eighth.  Robert Tasin pitched a perfect ninth with one strike out for his third save.

CF Zack Coppola (.323) went 0-5.  Mark Laird went 0-3 with a walk and his first stolen base.  Jose Pujols (.439) went 1-4.  Brendon Hayden (.414) went 2-4.  Jan Hernandez (.325) went 1-4 with a double and an RBI.  DH Josh Tobias went 2-4 with a double, 2 RBI, and his first professional HR.  Gregori Rivero went 2-4 with a double and an RBI.  Grenny Cumana went 1-4 with an RBI.

GCL Phillies (4-1) lead the GCL Astros 2-0.  The game was suspended in the bottom of the second with a runner on first.  The game will be completed tomorrow as part of a double header in Clearwater.  “C” Randolph made his first start in LF.  1B Luis Encarnacion hit a 2-run HR in the top of the first.  Shane Watson had pitched one inning plus the one batter he faced in the second inning.  He walked 2 batters in the first inning.  Watson picked off one of the base runners and struck out one in the inning.  He allowed a leadoff single in the second before the game was halted.

DSL Phillies (12-11) lost to the DSL Rays 5-2.  Daniel Brito (.304) went 1-2 with 2 walks.

VSL Phillies (16-21) lost to the VSL Rays 3-2.  The Phillies had taken a 2-1 lead with a run in the top of the ninth only to lose the game on 2 solo home runs in the bottom of the inning. The Phillies scored 2 unearned runs on 3 hits and 4 walks.  They struck out 11 times.

Here’s the affiliate scoreboard from MiLB.

Extra Innings –

  • Philadelphia Phillies optioned Severino Gonzalez to Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
  • Philadelphia Phillies sent Ethan Martin outright to Reading Fightin Phils.  The Phillies’ 40-man roster is now at 39.
  • Reading Fightin Phils placed RHP Tyler Knigge on the 7-day disabled list retroactive to June 27, 2015. right groin strain
  • Clearwater Threshers activated LHP Hoby Milner from the temporarily inactive list.
  • Clearwater Threshers placed RF Dylan Cozens on the 7-day disabled list retroactive to June 26, 2015.


85 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 6/29/2015

    1. Don’t worry, he’ll eventually have to face a lefty and go back to looking ridiculous.

  1. Pointer probably leads system in HRs. I did not see that coming. Another player who is just oozing projection is Kilome. Fangraph has nice write-up on his increased velocity. Last year he was 89-92 touching 93. This year he is 93-95 touching 97. Due to his tall and lean size he might still add velocity. Good times.

  2. The 40th man will be Billingsley. He’s projected to start on Thursday.

    Pointer has a big hole in his game. It’s called hitting lefties. He has 18 ABs against lefties this year and has K’ed 9 times. He wears righties out. If you’re going to have split like that, hitting righties is preferable but he’ll never be a starting OF’er in the Majors. He’s a great platoon guy though.

    1. Billingsley was only on the 15 day DL, so he was never removed from the 40 man roster.

    2. Maybe a weakness, but his strong side is the one with more platoon value. It is kind of odd that the team has not played him against lefties when he was doing well otherwise. Minors is supposed to be for exactly that type of development, not stats.

  3. I found out I was wrong on sabermetric, Looks like every club will be using them or has. Mc phail said on thing, That made me realize you have to look at it. He said why wouldn’t you use everything available. and he used them when he was with Minnesota, So if pointer cant hit lefthand pitchers, I Would think he isn’t a player we should get excited about. that a key thing.

    1. No, I disagree. I think if you have relatively athletic players, one or two positions can be platooned. As I’ve said before, the platoon has largely gone by the wayside because bullpens have gotten bigger. That said, if you have a couple of athletic players, they can work well in a platoon, especially if the platoon guy on the bench can pinch hit and be a defensive replacement.

      As for sabermetrics, of course you need to use them. You need to embrace them. But that doesn’t mean old fashioned scouting goes out the window, especially for drafting purposes.

    2. rocco……Andy MacPhail stressed the fact……the basic metrics have been used for a long time in baseball, BA , H/9, OBP, K/9……however, when it comes to the advanced analytical formulas AND PROJECTIONS, that is where he hired the experts to do their job. And they politely told him what he was doing wrong.
      IMO, analytics works the best when players are already in a system with a large enough sampling for projections.
      Acquiring talent , ie 16-year olds, and Rule 4 players …..the older scouting system of the old scout’s eyes and comparisons, probably is the best alternative.

  4. I’d have Seve in my rotation over O’Sullivan and even Williams.

    As to Nola, nice outing but a bit of concern with the high pitch counts. Is he trying to be too fine?

  5. Vermont I feel like you are being a little pessimistic. The guy did not have anywhere near his best stuff, and still managed 5 shutout innings. i feel like that is a positive. he was clearly off. you have some guys (kendrick comes to mind) who if they are off they have absolutely zero chance. good to see him battle!

    love this williamsport team.

    don’t mean to hate on Leiter, but he continues to end up with better lines than he actually pitched. He is good at getting out of trouble, but when he gets to AAA and up (if he gets there) he will be punished for the contact he allows. I don’t mean to rip the guy after his first AA win but I just don’t see him as a prospect. Maybe a Clay Condrey type out of the pen is a best case for him.

    1. It would be nice if Mark Leiter morphed into Greg Maddux, but he won’t. All he needs to do is keep pitching and make the rotation, even if he is a 5. There’s still value in that, and those days of 4 aces are long gone.

      1. Yeah, he sort of is what he is. But it’s better to have a young guy doing that who has a little upside and perhaps even a some trade value rather than Ryan freaking O’Sullivan who has no ability and no upside and really is no more than a AAAA shuttle pitcher. He’s awful and Jerome Williams isn’t much better.

        1. Don’t get me wrong, watching Williams and O’Sullivan pitch are hard on the eyes. But these guys taking their lumps lets our young pitchers get more experience in the minors and pretty much guarantees we will have the first pick in 2016.

    2. I don’t want to imply that Leiter is a prospect, but similar comments were made when he was putting up good lines at Clearwater. People expected him to get clobbered at AA. It may still happen, it may not happen until AAA. Maybe it doesn’t happen at all. I enjoyed watching him compete in all his Clearwater appearances. You are correct about the bullpen. The organization made that decision this spring. Imhof’s injury and Nunez’ rough start got him a couple spot starts, and he made the most of it. But probably just delaying the inevitable move to the pen.

      1. I watched Leiter last night, he sure knows how to mix up speeds. He would throw a slow curve at 65, then next pitch would be 82, another curve at 64, a FB at 89 then another one at 90. I know the announcers for Portland on couldn’t stop talking about his slow curve. He got some help with the defense, especially 2 runners getting thrown out at 2nd but still looked like a smart kid that knows how to pitch to his strengths

        It was only the 2nd time I’ve seen him pitch though, but I thought he looked good.

  6. I think one of the things we have to take into account is the organization telling pitchers what they want them to work on. Effin is being told to develop his slider, so taking that into account you cant just look at his numbers and make any decision on his ability.He is throwing a pitch to develop it. so in certain situation he might go with that slider over other pitches to see if he is getting comfortable with it. That is one thing I always had said, minor league numbers are hard to project, because its a development league, I really cant stand to see anymore of O Sullivan. pls not nola but someone else.

    1. agree that strictly looking at player stats in the minors is a mistake for the reasons you site. Players are there to work on their weaknesses, develop additional skills, etc.

      Same reason I disagree with the constant calls to promote players simply because they are putting up good numbers at a particular level. It really depends on what they are trying to work on.

  7. Seems like Gabe Lino is flying under the radar a bit… Premium position seems to be more than holding his own as a 22-year-old in AAA. I’m starting to get excited. How is his defense?

    1. There are several facets to “defense” as a catcher:
      First, as far as his arm and throwing runners out, he’s continued to look good. I think he had a high throw on Sunday, but really I consider him to have a ‘plus’ arm and throwing ability.
      Second, blocking and preventing past-balls and wild pitches: the coaches have said that he’s improving and have been happy with his work in this area. I don’t have any particular observations, other than a ball that went off his shin pad the other day and bounced away–not desirable, but that can happen from time to time.
      Third, calling the game. Coaches have said that he takes particular pride in calling the game and helping the pitchers. As a point of interest, I think he’ll be fine in this area.
      Finally, receiving the ball. The coaches have said that they “want him to work on” this. From my seat behind home plate, I can’t really judge it well. If you like, go back and watch the MiLB coverage from the center field camera and see what you think about his hands and receiving the ball. Last night’s game with Nola pitching might be interesting, because Nola “missed” on a lot of close pitches which felt like the umpire’s fault from my seat. (He did it for both teams, though…) However, perhaps quieter hands and better receiving could help him get some of those calls. See what you think and report back, if you’re up to it.

      1. Ruben today on wip said it looked like nola was getting squeeze by the home plate umpire. romus one more pick we could have had happ who is in a ball and has 3 homeruns and a 389 obp and 282 average. dam.

        1. rocco…..lets not revisit that Cub’s selection. Luck, or misfortune of the draw. Randolph could turn out very well however.

      2. krams….’framing’ the pitch, I guess, is part of the receiving aspect of catching

      3. I have watched quite a lot of Lino’s defense this year. Just to speak to “framing”, he isn’t there yet. His glove has a tendency to drift after contact in the direction he is catching the ball. This is bad catching glove side because it drifts away from the zone. This is bad for Nola running two-seamer down and away to left handed batters (two of Nola’s walks came on close pitches of this nature), but was devastating to Biddle and Windle because both have a lot of their arsenal running off the plate that way. It is correctable, and he is better receiving elsewhere in the zone, but he has some work to do.

        1. Yeah, that’s kind of what I was referring to, and if Ruben was there he was likely sitting behind home plate as I was–where it’s tough to see the catcher’s glove.

          My son is (was) a catcher and took private instruction from a former AAA catcher. One of the things he was working on with him was to keep his glove “quiet” and not to move around too much–or more than necessary. All manner in receiving the ball at it’s earlier stages is merely technique, and for the pro’s could reach the level of “framing.”

          At this stage I defer to Matt, who has seen the center field camera view where Lino’s hands are visible. It all makes sense from what I’m seeing behind the plate. I do enjoy watching him, though.

        2. 2 more doubles tonight Lino getting there finally a catching prospect that’s improving enough to get the show.

  8. JIm- is the GCL game still starting at noon today or are they starting earlier with the DH?

    1. I would assume they are starting earlier, like 10:00, but I’m not available to get there until just before noon. And it just poured here from 10:15-10:45.

  9. BA has an updated international prospect list and Jhaylin Ortiz is now listed as #18. Basically says he’s gained a lot of weight in the last year and many are terrified of what his size will be in the future. Also says he cannot recognize curve balls. Scouts are surprised that he’s in line to get such a high bonus from the Phillies.

    1. I guess in two days or so, we will know the high-end amount of that bonus.
      But gaining weight is a real concern.
      have to assume, once he gest into the academy the Phillies org will put him on a regimented diet and training program.

      1. Romus there is more on fangraphs that he has Athleticism he pretty flexible and faster then you might think. What worries me is the ” 5″ 8 175 pd cather there signing. Don’t forget this kid hasn’t lived in America better food. Ortiz power show as up in games too where Green’s never did.

  10. some things from

    Phillies OF Aaron Altherr, Triple-A Lehigh Valley: 3-for-6, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 3 R, BB, 2 K in doubleheader — Minnesota outfielder Max Kepler is the German-born player getting the most publicity for his breakout 2015, but don’t forget about Altherr. The Landstuhl, Germany, native is a fantastic athlete who has finally begun producing this season. The 24-year-old hit .293 with six homers, 19 doubles and an .851 OPS at Double-A Reading before a promotion last week, and is hitting .333 with two homers in six International League contests so far. With only Jeff Francoeur and Domonic Brown ahead of him on the right-field depth chart, there’s no reason Altherr — who is already on the 40-man roster — shouldn’t get some time in the Majors in the second half to determine if his recent breakout is for real.

    Phillies 1B Rhys Hoskins, Class A Advanced Clearwater: 2-for-4, HR, 3 RBI, R, K — There’s no question Hoskins has big raw power, but the Cal State Sacramento product fell to the fifth round of the 2014 Draft because he’s limited to first base and faced questions about whether he’d hit enough to let that power actualize in a meaningful way. So far, it’s been all good for Hoskins, who hit .322 with nine homers at Class A Lakewood before a promotion late last week, then homered in three of his first four games with the Threshers. Hoskins has 12 long balls and a .957 OPS in 72 games this year and may see Double-A before the end of the season.

    1. I watch video of Hoskins and comp him to Billy Butler or maybe even a right handed Matt Adams. A useful piece if he is surrounded by an athletic and talented line-up.

      if he turned into either player we would be thrilled.

  11. Does anyone have a scouting report on Mitch Gueller? Do you know what his ceiling is or what is his floor?

    1. the scouting report hasn’t changed much since last year. Still a nice, big frame, but struggles to show more than 88-90 with his fastball. Les Lancaster said the process with him this spring was for him to learn how to pitch with diminished velocity because it doesn’t appear to be coming back to what it was in high school. The slider is better and he locates it better. Change is still a third offering. He probably shouldn’t be here, but seems to be in caught in a numbers game and I’m not sure what kind of priority he is if he’s throwing 88-90. I’m actually surprised they haven’t put a bat in his hands yet. He’s still only 21, but time clearly isn’t on his side.

      I’ll give him this, though, everyone I’ve talked to said he’s handled himself very professionally all spring and during extended when they said he’d be in Williamsport again. He’s still an upbeat kid and a confident kid. There’s something to be said for a kid keeping his head on straight and just going about doing his job as best he can.

  12. Alyherr, Dugan, pointer, lino, pullin, astudillo continue to rake…

    Hopefully even Buchanan is ready shortly because SOS is horrid to watch….

  13. Adonis medina pitching for GCL right now, so far 3 inn , 4 Ks, 2 bb, 0 er, hitting. 94 on the gun , 84 on changeup.

    Encarcion with his 3rd HR…

    1. I was going to bring up Medina. Sounds like he may be the LA pitcher to break out this year. He’s got a great name, and it seems like he’s got the arsenal to go with it.

        1. David….do you realize how many new LAs are signed by the Phillies every year from $5K thru $800K? Maybe 2/3 dozen players. Now how many have made a mid-season all-star team from the Phillies in the last 20/30 years? Not many.
          But that does not stop a team from signing as many as they can….but the Phillies between 2002 and 2011 seem to be more frugal in their bonus’ to LA players.
          Only these last 4 years or so have they opened up their budget for Sal A. and his crew.

      1. Today, game is going on now…

        Watson pitched first scoreless inning, medina came in for 3 innings, Horace Stubblefield in now with 2 scoreless inn and 5 Ks…

        1. Horace Grandy Stubblefield, who sounds as if he walked right out of a Bernard Malamud novel onto a ball field in Florida.

  14. The GCL team is enough to make a prospect hound feel higher than Jeremy Jeffress

  15. Attended the second GCL today. McWilliams started and was excellent- very few hard hit balls against him in his 6 innings. Game was scoreless through 7 (was scheduled to be 7 but went 8) and Cornelius hit a walk-off base hit. GCP got the first two on base, before Alastre (2 hits) bunted them over. Gamboa was walked to put the DP in order but Randolph sent the 15 fans home happy. Nice AB- he fell behind after swinging through 2 fastballs that were a little bit up, the third pitch was a breaking ball low that he took, then on the 4th pitch, he got a curve that he waited on nicely and lined a hard single over the 2Bman’s head into right center. Was also impressed with Juan Luis who pinch-ran for Pickett (2 hits). He took off for second, and stumbled a little bit- a good throw would have gotten him out, but the ball was low and bounced into shallow CF. The impressive part was quickly he got up from the slide and he flew to 3rd base. The ball wasn’t too far away from the CF who picked it up and didn’t even make a throw. His speed was very apparent.

    1. nyphilmaniac19…..did you get to see what the velo for McWilliams was from any scouts in the stands?

    1. Matt does it concern you that the Phillies are going after this kid, and could be tax and lose next right to spend, I am concern about his weight and the scouts talking about him and the curve ball.

      1. Phillies could sign him for $2.75M and Marchan for $3000K and still be below the allocation. Or they can delay the signing until later this month and try to trade for more money in the meantime to stay below their allocation..

  16. with Kleven in the Reading rotation, Windle was just used out of the pen, does this mean he’s been moved their for good?

  17. Name calling? Were you a bully in school? I let a lot of stuff go here, but calling a 16-year old names is a good way to get your opinions deleted.

  18. Altherr shredding AAA pitching. Call up to Phillies July? Kleven is most underrated prospect in system.

  19. People have to stop reading garbage online and taking it as gospel.

    Just because BA does not have a prospect listed does not mean they are not on the radars of teams.

    Does anyone believe that Hamels should be traded for A level short season prospects because Heyman says so?

    People on here pick and choose too much when it comes to negativity. You whine when the Phillies do not spend and then whine when they do. Before the negative articles came out everyone was behind signing Ortiz. Now nobody likes a kid they have never seen (Youtube does not count.)

    1. David We can only go by what we read, And we have seen what a fat kid who didn’t get in shape cost us before. I personally don’t know this kid. But to pay 4 million for him and take yourself out of the market next year when you will have a bigger pool to spend. They better be right. What they are saying, if they sign this kid and pay him a taxable amount is that he is better than anyone next year. That would command million dollar signing bonus. I just think he is a risk. I could care less about what heyman says. he is wrong a ton.

        1. I only say what I see and feel. I cant come on here and be a excuse maker for the organization. .I love they want to spend in latin market but why on a kid with questions. especially his weight , that scares me and is inability to hit a curve.I might be 100 percent wrong , we will see in the future.

            1. I got nervous when I heard his weight. and then his trouble with the curve ball. Then started to question , if reports are true and he gets 4 million. we take ourselves out of this market on big signing next year. When we could spend more, I just wonder if he is worth all of that, is he that good.

  20. Romus because of how bad they are. wouldn’t they have bigger allotment next july2? But if they go over they lose that right or am I wrong on that,

    1. Correct….that is what I thought….they will lose it if they go over the limit

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