Around the System–Catchers

A look at how catchers around the system are performing.

Lehigh Valley

Gabriel Lino, 22, Acquired from Baltimore in 2012; .266/.319/.387 in 173 AB’s between Reading and Lehigh Valley; 3HR 22RBI; 7%BB/23%K rates; .266/.294/.313 in 64 AB’s for Lehigh Valley; 50 games caught with 3 errors (.992); 5 passed balls; 23/49 caught stealing (47%).  Lino has done an outstanding job defensively and has more than competent with the bat, raising his stock to the point where a 2016 major league debut in if not likely, than certainly possible.

Logan Moore, 24, Phils 9th round pick in 2011; .219/.282/.314 in 137 AB’s between Reading and Lehigh Valley; 2HR 15RBI; 8%BB/18%K rates; Hitting .214 in 42 AB’s for Lehigh Valley; 39 games caught with 5 errors (.982); 4 passed balls; 18/35 caught stealing (51%).  Moore continues to excel defensively with very little to show with the stick.

Blake Forsythe, 25, Acquired from Oakland in 2015; Hitting .244 with 1HR 4RBI in 41AB’s between Reading and Lehigh Valley; 13 games caught with 2 errors (.976); 1 passed ball; Thrown out 5/10(50%) base stealers.  Very limited playing time in his role as 3rd catcher.

Reading

Andy Knapp, 23, Phils 2nd round pick in 2013; .261/.354/.364 in 253 AB’s between CLearwater and Reading; 2HR 29RBI; 11%BB/24%K rates; .216 vs LHP; .288 vs RHP; .243 with RISP; .239 in June; 48 games caught with 6 errors (.984); 3 passed balls; 16/45 (36%) CS.  Decent progression from Knapp who professional career started slowly after Tommy John surgery.  Need to see a bit more from him with the bat.

Rene Garcia, 25, Signed as a free agent in 2015; .298/.330/.346 in 104AB’s between Lehigh Valley and Reading; 0HR 9RBI; 4%BB/8%K; .415 in June; 28 games caught with 2 errors (.989); 2 passed balls; 8/24 (33%)CS.  Garcia missed some time injured but has done a very nice job while bouncing back and forth between AAA and AA.

Clearwater

Chace Numata, 22, Phils 14th round pick in 2010; .265/.331/.345 in 113AB’s between Lakewood and CLearwater; 1HR 15RBI; 9%BB/10%K; .284 last 30 days; 18 games caught with 2 errors (.985); 5 passed balls; 11/34 (32%) CS.  Numata is finally back in the lineup playing regularly after missing large portions of two seasons injured.  Still only 22, and with some talent, I would expect Numata to see regular AB’s for the Threshers for the final two months of the season.

Wilson Garcia, 21, Signed as a free agent in 2010; Hit .444 in 2 games with WIlliamsport.

Lakewood

Deivi Gruillon, 19, SIgned as a free agent in 2012; .199/.242/.265 in 211AB’s; 2HR 21RBI; 4%BB/24%K rates; .159 vs LHP; .218 vs RHP; .095 last 30 days; .186 with RISP; 52 games caught with 6 errors (.986); 9 passed balls; 20/65 (31%) CS.  I preface this by saying that Gruillon is just 19, however expectations were(are) high for him and this year has been disappointing.  Still showing a very good arm, but defensive issues cropping up combined with a poor bat.

Joel Fisher, 22, Phils 23rd round pick in 2014; .188/.263/.275 in 69AB’s; 0HR 5RBI; 5%BB/26%K rate; .200 vs LHP; .184 vs RHP; 22 games caught without an error; 2 passed balls; 7/12 (58%)CS.  Abysmal offense, excellent defense.

Jose Mayorga, 22, Signed as a free agent in 2009; Hitting .114 in 35 AB’s between Clearwater and Lakewood; Has caught 11 games without an error or a passed ball; 5/13(39%) CS.  Mayorga has been the guy bouncing from affiliate to affiliate when a body behind the plate is needed.

Williamsport

Gregori Rivero, 19, Signed as a free agent in 2012; Hitting .227 with an RBI in 22AB’s; 3 passed balls; 1/5 CS.

Austin Bossart, 22, Phils 14th round in 2015; Hitting .188 with 2 RBI’s in 16 AB’s. 3 games caught without an error. Threw out the only base runner attempting to steal.

GCL

Rodolfo Duran, 17, Signed as a free agent in 2014; 2-9 (.222) in 3 games; 2RBI’s;

Edgar Cabral, 19, Phils 11th round pick in 2015; 0-3 in his 2 GP.

Gregory Brodzinski, 23, Phils 18th round pick in 2015; 0-2 in his one game played

13 thoughts on “Around the System–Catchers

  1. Bring up Lino in Sept and get another catcher in trade(s) of Hamels and Paps. Ruiz has reached the end of his MLB career even though Ruiz has one yr remaining on his contract. It is time to develop our “new” catching corps. Our other minor lg catchers have yet to show their future possible MLB jobs. Rupp and Lino…plus some prospect catcher in trade. Have Ruiz become a catcher/coach in ’16.

    1. i tend to agree with you on Ruiz, but some team will pay Carlos at least decent backup money next year- was surprised to see this blurb on mlbtrade rumors last week (Unless the NL evaluator works for the Phils)
      Even at his advanced age, one NL evaluator feels that Phillies veteran Carlos Ruiz is still “a better option than “more than 50 percent of the catchers in the league.”

    2. Why would you bring him up? He just got to AAA. He apparently has things to work on in his defensive game. There’s no indication he’s ready to be a big league regular, so rather than keeping him on the bench in the majors, why not keep him in the minors for at least the majority of the rest of the year and play him as the regular there and let him develop.

      Now, there are times that the Phillies keep a guy at a level too long, but for the most part guys get promoted when it is clear that they are ready, and, in the scheme of things, it’s better to keep the guy down a little longer and be sure he is ready rather than promote him, have him struggle and then either not play him or send him back down.

      Lino’s development, however, is an interesting surprise. He sure is a big athletic guy, so he if he can translate some of those raw tools, that’s a very unexpected plus.

  2. “Deivi Gruillon…however expectations were(are) high for him.”

    Not to be a negative Nellie, but I definitely wasn’t one of those who voted him #11 in the Reader Poll! He was late 20’s in my list, and that’s probably where he is right now on the prospect list.

    1. There were a lot of people that were high on him. And defensive issues are not just now cropping up. They were there last year but people somehow rationalized them away. Grullion has had the same type of over excitement Tocci had two years ago when he prematurely made the top 10. Young international signees are a blank slate you can project almost anything onto.

      1. I have to say – I love this site, and I especially love these posts about “Around The ……”, but I have to comment on this. Any 19/20 year old catching prospect is going to have opportunity areas / weaknesses, and to think Devi would be on a “straight line performance improvement” from 18 to the big leagues, is crazy. Most/all prospects hit bumps in the road, especially catchers. His performance this year is not a concern to me one bit – let’s wait to cast judgement until his second season at Low A ball when he’s 20 years old….

        1. I Believe unless you a stud like trout. Most kids will have highs and lows. I believe catchers are the hardest to judge, and you have to realize. They are learning to catch at he pro level , calling games. Where most in hs put down a one for fastball. and that was the game. Then you must learn to hit. so it takes time.

      2. The Tocci example is exactly why we shouldn’t be worrying too much about Grullon’s struggles this year. He’s been moved forward aggressively and is playing with/against player who are considerably older, in some cases. He has the inherent tools (chiefly the arm) that will carry him if he manages to get some of the other stuff worked out. Catchers tend to take longer than other types of prospects to develop, simply because the position is so much harder to master, not to mention physically draining. Like Tocci, Grullon’s talents are such that if he ever does start putting it together, he will be a top prospect in the system.

        For that reason, I think he was very reasonably placed in last year’s Top 30, and I wouldn’t move him back based on a half-season’s worth of poor stats.

        Also, no one has mentioned that Gabriel Lino was the player acquired for Jim Thome, not a bad return at all as it turns out for a cheap free agent signing that received a lot of criticism at the time. Point to Amaro, I guess?

  3. not much to get excited about there. i do wonder if the Phils were looking at Austin Rei from Washington in round 3, who ended up going to Boston 2 picks before we selected Luke Williams.

  4. Was that meant to say “2015 debut” for Lino? I could see him playing this year easily, definitely in September if not earlier

  5. Is Lino going to be the number one catcher of the future…2017 and beyond….probably not.
    Will he be via with Cam Rupp for back-up, probably.
    I think a September call-up with game action would benefit him in his future role.

      1. Lino is actually hitting .292 at LV in 72 AB with a .316 OBP. He it .266/.333 in 109 AB at Reading. I’ve seen him play twice with each club this year. Definite batting improvement over his time in Williamsport. He’s at least a future MLB backup.

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