And the Phillies Release …

Calls for giving Jake Fox “a look” can be put to rest.  According to Baseball America, the   32-year old first baseman was released last week by the Phillies.  Fox hit 16 HRs in 57 games in the Mexican League and slashed .307/.397/.605/1.001 before signing a minor league contract with the Phillies.  He continued to produce, hitting 22 HRs in 78 games an slashing .308/.373/.591/.964 with Reading.  His combined line was 38 HRs and .307/.383/.597/.980 in 135 games in 2014.

80 thoughts on “And the Phillies Release …

  1. meh – he was a 32 -year old journeyman playing in an organization that needs to get younger. Wish him luck in getting a chance somewhere else

      1. Eric he will be 28 and doesn’t know how to pitch. 9 thumbs down just show how little people know, he has shown nothing but a fastball.

        1. Look on the bright side anon….you got one thumbs up.
          So MAG enters ST as a 27-year old pitcher who could be stretched to start from what reports have said earlier.
          His scouting report said he had an assortment of pitches when he was starting in Cuba and Mexiico.
          When he was made a reliever he resorted to basically two.

        2. So now he’ll be 28? What happened to “hes 29”? Yes he’ll be 28 AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR!! (That’s like saying, it will be August) He’ll be pitching the whole season at 28 having just turned 28 (except for days in sept) so what little you know. And how can you honestly base “he doesn’t know how to pitch” off of 4 innings? I bet you can find a ton of pitchers who didn’t do well in their first 4 innings of MLB. He throws in the upper 90’s with solid secondary pitches . . I’ll hold off saying someone “can’t pitch” until a much larger sample size then FOUR INNINGS!!! Btw I love the “anonymous” titles, it basically allows someone to post with no way to hold them accountable for what they say. What I mean is MAG could finish next year with a sub 3 ERA and you can post “I always thought he would turn into a solid arm” sign it as annonoymous or a actually name and no one would know that you thought the complete opposite (if that makes sense).

          1. Ignore the money and age issues and you have a guy who throws very hard after finally getting healthy. He definitely has an arm that has a shot to be a decent major league pitcher if he can harness it. He’ll be a fun guy to follow. Personally however, I think it would be a mistake to expect him to claim a starter’s spot next year.

      1. Well Ruben is not here today……he is down in the Domincan Republic at the Phillies academy and took in the private workout today of Yasmani Tomas.
        Hopefully if he salivates over the Cuban, he and the Phillies come up with some mucho dinero.

          1. I was waiting for that stupid rebuttal. They won under gillick, and he had complete control of the organization. learn your facts you and the three morons who thumbed down my remark. In eighty they had Paul Owens who ran the show. but when Giles tried to be the gm he screwed up the team and now it Montgomery turn to be the next bill Giles. 2 championships in 138 years, speaks for itself. one of the original eight teams and only one twice, now state your case no name. Remember this the the same team that once was beaten by the university of penn, when young carpenter told his dad how he could get a bunch of college kids and beat the Phillies, and did. only older guys will remember this, you younger guys still think the Phillies do everything right, its funny imo.

  2. I guess Jake Fox turned out to be the answer to the question: “What defensively limited white dude will the fan base seize on as the second coming of Harmon Killebrew this year?” (Previous winners of the Killer Award include: Darin Ruf, Matt Rizzotti, Brandon Moss.) I feel like Cameron Perkins kind of had this year’s award locked up until he really sucked on promotion to LHV this year. (Note to future contestants: do not get promoted out of Reading!)

    Still think Perkins has a decent chance at the award next year, if he just works a bit on his grit, character and playing the game the game right way in the offseason.

      1. I would say Mitchell, but didn’t his one decent year (2011 in Reading) overlap with Rizzotti’s? Can’t have two Killers in one year. Although maybe Rizz would have won it in 2010.

  3. I’m too lazy to look it up right now, but I think the Somerset Patriots signed him for their playoff run.

    The Reading Phillies were on some CBS sports network for a game this summer, and they interviewed Fox for a good half an inning while the game continued. To me, it seemed like a guy who totally understood his role and was really positioning himself for a future coaching position, and not so much a MLB player role.

    So considering this is his second tour of duty with the org (both times when they needed a veteran presence at Reading), they probably did this more of a courtesy to him to let him get some at bats with an organization that he’s been a part of before (Somerset).

    Every org needs the Spidales, etc to keep things together.

    1. He was already there and they got rid of him. He might resurface, but almost certainly not there.

      My concern is that the Phillies conclude they have no place for Ruf and Ruf is acquired for very little consideration by the A’s or God forbid, the Pirates, and just haunts us for years with 30-35 homer seasons and annual 850 OPS numbers while playing a very good first base.

      A bad team should be able to find a place for potentially valuable player like Ruf. I know people say that Ruf is done developing as a prospect and, in a way, that’s true (he’s not going to get faster or devlop more power), but in another sense, I think he would naturally improve – perhaps quite a bit – with regular playing time because his playing time since 2013 has been very inconsistent, broken up by promotions, demotions, bench time, and injuries.

      1. I’ll give up after saying this because I have had too many arguments over Ruf, ultimately he is just a guy, not a GUY. Why is there so much concern for a guy who at best will be a marginally above average 1b for te next 2 or 3 seasons before he starts declining physically. I mean I get that this being a minor league site and him having that amazing year for one of the minor league affiliates there’s a certain attachment to him, but is it realy neccessarry to have this much debate over a player that really doesn’t affect the landscape of this organization’s future.

        1. It is easy to like Ruf because he does have some talent and is a good ‘soldier’ and rarely complains, if at all, about doing everything the team wants.
          Granted he turns 29 in the middle of next season, so he may have 3/4 years before an appreciable decline.
          But what may be one the the biggest factors in his popularity, is the Ryan Howard Effect.
          If Ryan Howard played up to his contract, then the Ruf love-affair would be relatively tepid.
          Just my opinion.

          1. So ignoring the $$$, having Ruf at 1b isn’t any better than having Howard there and considering that Howard’s money is already spent, I don’t see how replacing him with Ruf makes the team better.

            If they can move Howard and save some of his remaining salary, I would hope that they actually try to improve the position, not just go cheaper.

            1. Howard is dreadful now. Ruf would likely be quite a bit better in the next few years.

              But this is less about Ruf than it is about the state of the team, its direction and what Ruf and Howard each symbolize.

              It’s sad that Howard is at the point where he’s not good enough to justify playing time at any price. Assuming they can’t trade him (which is a safe assumption), I suppose they need to tell him the performance this year just can’t continue, allow him the winter to re-adjust, see if he shows any improvement in ST or early next year and if he doesn’t they really should just release him. If you’re out the $25 million no matter what, it still doesn’t justify having him lose games for you and just age into oblivion. You’re better off swallowing the money and turning the page.

  4. Come on everyone, Fox is the definition of a minor league journeyman. It was actually very cool of him to accept playing down in AA just to keep playing.
    By the way, everyone should read the John Feinstein book on the minor leagues (“Where they don’t know your name” or something like that), it was very good and his story followed several guys close to us as Phillies fans.

  5. Wouldn’t be opposed to one last general discussion , the Eagles hot start has allowed this disaster of a team to end their awful season in relative anonymity. They deserve harsh criticism, Cataldi had Amaro on the radio Monday and gave him the softest inteview imaginable,. There needs to be major changes in this organization to gain back the trust of the fan base and to improve the product on the field. Don’t be fooled by mouthpieces like Matt Winkleman this team has no plan and if they weren’t pushed against a self-imposed salary threshhold they would have made more follish signings. As soon as they regain payroll flexibility Amaro will once again start giving up draft pick to sign past peak free agents, as long as he is in charge along with the current ownership group, the product will not get better.

    1. Try being objective if you can Alex! Matt Winkleman is no mouthpiece for the Phillies and does a ton of research for his articles-certainly much more than you did for your questionable post.

    2. You actively listen to Angelo Cataldi. Your opinion about anything sports related is null and void. Maybe you could opine on old guys constantly making creepy comments.

      1. Cataldi knows less about organized sports than my daughter – and my daughter knows nothing about organized sports. A stopped clock is right about 2,000 times as often as Cataldi is. (That is, Cataldi is right about once every three years.)

        1. I cannot comprehend how that man became the morning host for the preeminent sports talk station in Philly. He has absolutely no clue what he is talking about in regards to any of the 4 sports. He was probably one of those guys that loved Sal Fasano and was mad he didn’t play more often.

    1. I’ve been confused by his recent comments in strong defense of Amaro comes off as someone that has gained some sudden acces to the organization and in turn starts cheerleading for them. The main argument that the team has a plan is just not correct, they are forced to hold off on signing big ticket free agents because they won’t spend past a certain limit. Amaro is getting congratulated for some grand plan when it is actually just more of the same from an owenership group that above all else is concerned with making money.

      1. Alex, use common sense-look at the young players up already in Franco, Asche, Relievers, Ben Revere, Dom Brown,David Buchannan and others. The possible team Reading could field next year:JP Crawford(SS), Roman Quinn(CF) and Aaron Nola(SP). Allentown could field Kelly Dugan(OF), Jesse Biddle(SP), Colt Murray(RP) and Adam Loewen(SP). Clearwater could have Knapp (C), Andrew Pullin and Jessie Valetin fighting for 2B. There is a lot of talent coming up and some won’t work out but there is talent behind that as well. Years 2015 and 2016 probably will be rough but things open up talent wise and money wise. You will probably see short term FA deals that end around 2016 to fill holes.

        1. You just cited a bunch of fringe talent outside of Crawford, Nola, and Franco. The rest of those guys aren’t likely to make an impact in or even get to the major leagues. I get overvaluing prospects, but in terms of using common sense as you advised me to do I would say this is an average to slightly below average system. I would expect most rankings will reflect that.

        2. Phila please tell me your not basing your argument on Adam Loewen , Murray, Biddle and Dugan bring us back. even Nola isn’t a sure thing, only Crawford looks legit. Quinn has chance, but right now the guys you mention are no better than what we have up now and we stink.

      2. If they were solely concerned about making money they would just sell the team. Owners in any pro sport are about their own ego’s they clearly know the operation of a sports franchise is not a money making opportunity in the day to day season to season sense.

        The payoff comes when they decide to sell.

      3. You know, the answer here is simple. It doesn’t help that Amaro’s defenders often ignore or soft pedal the negatives, but the following is, it seems to me, hard to seriously argue with:

        (1) The team has a plan (indisputably true);
        (2) The plan is, given circumstances, a good one (some room for argument, but I think true);
        (3) The execution of the plan leaves a lot to be desired (certainly true to some extent; it is here that his defenders are IMO overly kind); and
        (4) The hole that the organization is in is so deep that even a good, perfectly executed plan will take years to bring the team back to contention (best case 2017)(pretty clearly true);
        (5) The hole was mainly (though not entirely) the result of faults in the organization (poor decisions and poor development – again, hard to argue with).

        I think that, because of 3 and 5, Amaro should go. He is IMO one of the bottom 5 GMs in the league. But people who go on about the organization not having a plan have no case, none. They generally don’t LIKE the plan (#2) and confuse poor execution (#3) with lack of a plan, but that there is a plan couldn’t be clearer.

        1. I believe every team has a plan. But look who is in charge of this plan and then tell me we aren’t in trouble. I mean the marlins have a plan, what team can you name that doesn’t have a plan to win or get better. to me this makes no sense,

      4. More than anything the comments have been in relation to a national media that refuses to engage in actual discourse and instead just repeat the same idiocy over and over again without looking at the facts. I was strongly anti-Amaro for the past 4+ years, but I am not going to dwell on the Lee trade or Pence trades years after the fact. If he was getting fired for those they would have already done it. I am trying to be objective based on what is in front of me and that is that teams that have extreme peaks have extreme faults, more so teams that sell off to the ground seem to have as much a rebuild time as those that struggle along. Over the past two seasons the Phillies have made fairly good moves given the situation they put themselves in. Additionally the return of good scouting minds like Wade and Manuel, coupled with increased funding to Sal Agnostinelli in Latin America have restarted the influx of talent into the farm system.

        There just has been too much depressing thoughts to spend the time dwelling on the bad of the past at the expense of missing what is happening in front of us. In reality there really was almost no chance of avoiding this bottoming out, the only real avoidance would have been to preemptively try and bottom out, but that provides no guarantee of success especially when ownership is willing to spend to the tax every year.

        But I can assure you, I have no connection to any member of the Phillies organization, no connection to any media organization, and my only agenda is to advance my own opinion based on the facts that are laid before me.

        1. See Matt, you go too far in the other direction. Yes, the team has a plan, and Amaro has avoided horrendous blunders over the past two years. But:

          (1) Avoiding horrible blunders is an incredibly low bar,
          (2) Part of the reason he has avoided costly blunders is that he has avoided moves with a significant downside risk. Now, that may be the right strategy now, but when the team returns to contention, high risk moves will be needed. And Amaro’s track record with high risk moves is not good; and
          (3) While avoiding costly blunders of late, Amaro has made some questionable moves.

          Nor is your evaluation of how the team got in its current hole sufficiently critical of Amaro and the rest of the organization. Yes, even a best case scenario probably would have led to a down period, but a shorter down period (and, depending upon just how bad it gets over the next couple of years, possibly a less deep down period). For example (and I don’t have time to get into specifics) your defenses of the team’s record of developing talent over the past few years are, shall we say, less than persuasive. Though I would agree that Amaro certainly doesn’t deserve all of the blame for that.

          It’s possible to correctly realize that the organization has a plan and a good one, yet still believe that organizational faults – from Amro on down and on up – will prevent successful implementation of that plan.

          1. Exactly – and I didn’t read Larry’s post before I posted below.

            Ironically, the one area where the club has been criticized most – player drafting – is one where I think they’ve actually been okay. Not great, but pretty decent – I’d give them a solid B in this area. But so many of these players have been traded away, they have also had some bad luck, the team is not good at trading for young talent (Cliff Lee deal), and the team, until very recently, has been a smaller time player in the International arena which has helped depress the overall talent level.

          2. What exactly is the strategy? They have operated like Howard, Utley and Rollins are all All-Star players and filled in with Marlon Byrd. Added Burnett, a huge waste of $, when Hamels was hurt. Utley made the AS team, but #s since June are very poor. Next year, the “Plan” is to spend more $, think outside the box, and pretend to contend again. That is no plan! Who have they added, outside the Draft, that will be an impact player going forward? Not one of their core group was traded to bring in young talent of any consequence. Waited too long on Utley and Lee, and made zero trades this year. Trading Byrd, Pap, Howard in off-season? Doubtful, but if they do, they will get nothing in return.

            1. Saying there is no strategy suggests you just aren’t paying attention. The strategy is to rebuild (without calling it that) while remaining competitive. You may not LIKE that strategy, but that’s the strategy. They have avoided moves which compromise the future. Their “staying competitive moves” have, pretty much without exception, involved short term money only. And spending that money impacts the team’s future … not at all.

              You talk about “adding” players. But just how do those players get “added?” Young talent isn’t available in free agency. Okay, trades. I DO think they probably wasted a few opportunities there. That’s an issue with execution of the strategy. But even there, you really only have a point with Lee. None of the other guys are getting you much in return – including Utley, unless you traded him 5 years ago, which would have been silly. That’s as true if you traded them two or even three years ago as it is now.

              The reality is that, when most of these guys really had trade value, the team was still contending. Not trading them then was not only defensible, but absolutely the right call.

        2. “In reality there really was almost no chance of avoiding this bottoming out.”

          That, in a nutshell, is my problem with the Philadelphia fan.

          I could not disagree more with this sentiment and I’ve been arguing against it for years. Great teams and organizations have radar screen blips and ebbs and flows but don’t truly bottom out,or at least not for very long. The Cardinals don’t bottom out. The Yankees don’t bottom out. The Baltimore Orioles, when they were run well by good baseball people, went through a stretch of about 25 years where they were good and through multiple generations of players. The A’s have had among the worst resources in baseball for the last 15 years and they’ve remained relevant the enitre time.

          This is nonsense. It wasn’t inevitable – it was as a result of poor design, poor execution and, admittedly, some bad luck. And, again, I’m not talking about a down year or two or a short transition period – that’s to be expected. I’m talking about the trough we’re in now and not likely to be out of anytime soon.

          And we can’t use money as an excuse because the Phillies are among the game’s elite when it comes to money and the fans are superb when the team gives them a reason to show up.

          Like milions of others in the region, ‘m really sick of watching bad, boring baseball and I’m very angry about the direction in which the club is headed and the embarassingly poor job done by the GM.

          1. Here are Gillick based dynasties and their wins:
            Blue Jays, starting 1990: 86, 91, 96, 95, Gillick leaves, 55, 56, 74, 76 (haven’t been to playoffs since)
            Orioles, starting 1996: 88, 98, 79, Gillick leaves, 78, 74, 63 (made playoffs for first time again in 2012)
            Mariners, starting 2000: 91, 116, 93, 93, Gillick leaves, 63, 69, 78 (haven’t made playoffs since)

            But since you mentioned them lets look at the Cardinals and their wins since 2004 (when they lost WS): 105,100, 83 (won WS), 78, 86, 91, 86, 90, 88, 97, (on pace for 90) that isn’t exactly a juggernaut, that team never bottomed, but they weren’t exactly great either. The Yankees are one year behind the Phillies now, this will be the second year out of the playoffs as their team is held together with duct tape as it falls to pieces. The A’s have been relevant in the way a team that has made the playoffs 3 times in the past 10 years are relevant. The Cubs bottomed, the Mets bottomed, the Twins bottomed, the Braves went mediocre, D-Backs bottomed, Red Sox are bottoming after a fluke year. It happens to every team that relies on stars, when the stars go so do the teams, sometimes it is quick, sometimes there is a fade it depends how the stars go.

            1. Seriously? Are you really using those Cardinals teams as a comp for the Phillies current situation? The Cardinals over that whole span of time won two world series and went to two others and are now going to make the playoffs again. The Cardinals are a model of stability – give me that team and I’m not complaining about the occasional 78 or 86 win season, especially if I’m watching Albert Pujols while it occurs and streams of young, talented players keep making their way to the majors. I’ll take it any day.

              As for the Cubs, Twins and Mets – these teams were poorly run. All have now implemented management changes that are on the verge of improving their chances in the immediate future. D-Backs and Braves suck (more on Braves later) and they’ve fired their guys as they should have. So, if anything, these examples mitigate in favor of a change of management with the Phillies too. But no changes are on the horizon with the Phillies.

              As for the A’s they had no resources – had they been able to spend even close to the amoun the Phillies have available they would have been world beaters and even still they were in the hunt and the teams were interesting even though they were constantly forced to trade their best players.

              The Red Sox have had a few weird years, but in between the bottoming out was some great baseball including three world championships. Also, the Red Sox are not long for the scrap heap. They have oodles of young talent and have cleared salary space so yes, it’s a frustrating year to be a Red Sox fan, but they are far from hopeless and I expect they are going to be good again soon and for quite a while. Red Sox fans are pissed, but they’ll soon be watching a very good team again, unlike Phillies fans.

              Yup, the Yankees are expensive and they are clearing space and they have old and expensive players and yet, they are still above .500 and if you check back in 5 or 6 years, I suspect they’ll figure it out somehow because in New York, the Yankees are not allowed to suck for 7 years and trust me, they won’t.

              By the way, on the Braves, Frank Wren screwed up some big contracts to be sure, but the Braves have introduced a ton of young and talented players on a limited payroll. If the Phillies had that much young talent and the Phillies were able to also take on Free agent salaries (which the Braves cannot) we’d be pumped. You cannot begin to compare the Braves young talent with the Phillies – the Braves are loaded compared with the Phillies. And even with that their GM got fired and they are looking to improve.

              Matt, I like your posts, but you’ve really come up short this time.

            2. catch….on the Braves and Frank Wren….granted he did the two bad contracts…Uggla and Upton. But this year 2/5ths of his starting staff went out for the year, and he hurriedly has to get Santana and Harang and stays alive unitl August. Perhaps his differences with Bobby Cox could have been a factor in his exit.

            1. Romus is making my point. Even with Wren, he did a far better job of bringing talent to the team and keeping it afloat than Amaro.

              Where are all these Amaro apologists coming from? Why do they defend him? I don’t get it. Did they like Ed Stefanski too? If you can’t tell that Amaro has done a really, really bad job, I can’t help you.

          2. Well said catch22. You sum up my sentiments.

            This was avoidable. An organization with the resources of the Phillies should have seen from the last CBA how the game has changed.

            The team has spent money very poorly over the last few seasons, including this one, and it is the sentiment that the poor spending will hamstring this team well into the future.

            Everything broke right for this team, except for Cliff Lee, and they are still a 90 loss team with a payroll of $177 million.

            Here are some payroll numbers to chew over.

            Orioles – $107.466 million
            Royals – $92.185
            Oakland – $82.32
            Seattle – $90.239
            Pirates – $71.929
            Cardinals – $111.25

            Phillies – $177 million

            We all know that the Phillies have a plan but many of us disagree with said plan given their history and how they are executing said plan.

            1. Yes, the Phillies have a plan of sorts. Who knows if it will work but I’m glad Gillick has a hand in it because Gillick, while he’s old school, he really does have an almost otherwordly feel for young talent and he knows how to turn teams around. But saying there’s a plan in and of itself does me no good. The French had a plan in WWII, but the Maginot Line didn’t last very long.

            2. David, your beloved Flyers are in the same situation as the Phillies but greatly aided by the NHL’s expanded playoffs.

            3. The Flyers are actually in better shape. They have more talent down on the farm and have replenished the pipeline.

              Yes, I was critical of the team before Hextall took over as well.

              My point has always been that the money the Phillies are spending is not being spent wisely. You could knock $20 million off the payroll and not see a major difference in the standings putting that money towards the farm system.

              I feel that a team like the Phillies has greater resources available to them so they should be able to maintain a very strong farm system.

              The teams I posted above do not have the resources of the Phillies but can create a very good pipeline of players and be competitive.

              In terms of hockey and its application to baseball I love what Dean Lombardi did in Los Angeles with the KIngs. I love that he trained Hextall and you are seeing those details put into place with the Flyers.

              I would love to see the Phillies bring in someone from St. Louis, Oakland, or another mid market team to rebuild the minor league system rather than depend on the old guard.

  6. If you really think there is some kind of science or expertise to a GM you are probably the bigger moron.

    If this season doesn’t bear witness to that then I don’t know what else to tell you. One would only need to study a guy like Brian Sabean’s 17 year career as GM, or Brian Cashman’s 16 year career as GM or Jerry DiPoto or Billy Beane. It’s more about luck or dumb luck than any function of analysis.

    You can apply derivatives to inanimate objects but it will never solve the problems of one teams absence of championships no more so then the two Brian’s constant quest for veterans. Both models would appear to work from time to time but neither is sustainable.

    If you’re not willing to give Ed Wade his partial due for 2008 you are probably a moron and in a year or two if or when John Hart moves the needle in ATL Wren should get some of the credit for the things he did well but he won’t he’ll be that guy that signed Uggla and B.J.

    If you’re not willing to acknowledge the ranking of a farm system is completely arbitrary in the sense that the only thing that matters is what a prospect ends up doing in the majors and even a stellar performance in the minors is no guarantee they become that in the majors you are probably not a moron but ignorant just the same.

    I see it as the Jerry Jones/Jimmy Johnson syndrome both guys allowed themselves to believe they alone were responsible for the those 2 Super Bowls when the reality was it was their dumb luck Minnesota made that trade for Herschel Walker.

    History since proved to them both that neither was as brilliant as they thought they were. The same will be true over and over again in baseball.

    You know Bill Polian former GM for the Colts was being interviewed the other night with regard to Jameis Winston he made a very poignant statement he said “we had the number one pick we had the choice Manning or Leaf we liked them both we got lucky….”

    1. It’s all random. GMs make no difference. Methodology and scientific analysis doesn’t matter. Ed Wade’s a genius. I’ve now heard it all.

      1. Catch, please step back and take a look at your posts as they are getting more annoying and long winded. You had to go to the way back machine to find the sustained period of sucesses that you mentioned: Orioles(1960 to 1983 when they had the great Frank Cashen/Harry Dalton team during that time), the Cardinals I agree mostly with but really the Yankees who mostly buy teams? We all write things we regret later(including me) but don’t you think your attacking and inflammatory style of posts go too far?

        1. Catch may be overwrought – and some criticisms of Amaro also (though IMO catch doesn’t fall into the worst of the lazy “no plan” critiques).

          But as I said above, one can acknowledge the positives, and stick to the reasonable critiques, and STILL believe that the organization is in deep trouble.

          But let’s assume that even that take is a little too pessimistic. What Matt’s been posting lately is … so overly positive to be be inexplicable, given the facts on the ground and Matt’s knowledge of the game. Not really sure I get it.

          1. I don’t think that he is being overly positive: all he is saying is that the Phillies are doing a much better job of bringing young talent into the organization now. Whether the prospects turn into star or usable players remains to be seen. Time will tell how they develop.

            1. He’s saying more than that – and ignoring other problems. The point is that “bringing more talent into the organization” isn’t enough by a long shot.

        2. Fair enough. I’ll trim down the posts and the inflamatory statements. I’m just very frustrated by what I see going on with the team and the sort of passive acquiesence of fans who think this type of downturn in the teams fortunes is inevitable and even necessary.

          But part of what I am trying to do is get people to realize that, with better leadership in the front office, the team doesn’t have to tank like this periodically – at least not to this extent. It’s not inevitable. But when that’s what you’ve grown up with and grown accustomed to, you might think that it is. But, truly, it’s not.

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