Box Score Recap – 6/11/2013

Box Score Recap

Yoel Mecias with the pitching performance of the day, 1R, 2H, 2BB, and 7K in 5IP., followed up by 3R (2 earned), on 5H, 2BB, and 5K in 6IP from Seth Rosin. Cameron Rupp’s OPSing 1.000 in 1 game at AAA, after a double in three trips to the plate. His ISO is also good, at .334. Both are totally sustainable, I’m sure. Aaron Atlherr with his 7th HR, and Roman Quinn with his 29th steal, and his 26th error. Now that’s what I call filling up the stat sheet and yes I just said that and no I don’t think I’m going to take it back.

An so we come to Kelly Dugan – two hits and two walks on the day. His OBP .417, his OPS .994. Sure, he’s got a .425 BABIP, but it’s on a nearly 25% (!!!) line drive rate. Time to throw him into the fire at AA and see if he stays hot or cools off. Which, I’ll admit, is kind of confusing given the fire reference. How about throw him into the lion’s den and see if “gets eaten alive” or “kills a lion with his bare hands”. That sort of works. Dunk him in water and see if he’s a witch? No. Hmm…something about the “batcave”? That’s baseballish. And I mean the animal bats, not Batman. If they ever make a comedy version of Batman, maybe his dad could direct and Sandler could play the starring role. That would be super. Anyway, here’s some boxes:

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130611

6-11-13 boxscores

67 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 6/11/2013”

  1. Dugan needs more hype, the numbers are now jumping off the page. 9.1% BB rate, 22.9% K rate and a very solid .231 ISO. Forget his crazy BABIP, all his peripherals are right there. He’s had high BABIPs his whole career, maybe the dude is a line drive machine. Move him up.

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    1. I agree – and if he’s going to falter some at AA, so be it, but he’s proving nothing at A+ right now. Maybe he’ll go this weekend. It is the half way point, even if he was out for a month, but if they had a target # of 200 or 250 PAs he may have to wait on that if they decide it’s still useful.

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        1. I’d guess Franco and Dugan are both in line for promotions to Reading once SS ball starts and all those XST players are released into the system. Just a guess.

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          1. I was thinking that as well, but who do you move to Clearwater? No one from that Lakewood lineup could handle it. Maybe Taylor? Who are some of the EST players that could jump there?

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            1. Lino perhaps, though that doesn’t help with the opening at Third or in the OF. It could also be scrubs moving around to make room (no offense to the John Suomi’s of the world).

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            2. I was thinking about Zach Taylor for the OF. 3B is “guy off the street” or Roof/Mujica play third. No harm with any of those three moves, really. Taylor would welcome the promotion, I imagine, and he’s a college guy who needs to get moving if he’s going to show he’s worth keeping around.

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        2. Promoting Dugan should happen soon but decisions have to be made with other players. Push Gillies up? Send Collier down? I’m not sure they’ll push Franco up though.

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    2. Dugan was my ‘sleeper’ pick in the off season. Good to see him doing well, especially since he is playing right field, which has become a position of need. Looking at his splits, he seems to be another left-handed hitter who hits lefties better than righties. The Phillies seem to be stockpiling these guys; for example, Domonic Brown and Ben Revere. This complicates any platooning; for example, one would think that it would sense to platoon Mayberry and Revere in center, but Revere and Mayberry are both better against lefties.

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    3. I’ll get on the Dugan bandwagon. If we look at who is “blocking” him at Reading: Gillies is still trying to get his mojo back, Collier is under .200 and Hewitt is the only one resembling a hitter in the OF (that’s someting I never thought I’d write). You can switch Collier and Dugan. You can throw Gillies into AAA and say sink or swim buddy. If their waiting for the all star game, that’s okay but it’s time to kick him up a notch (soon). .

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        1. Gillies is ready for the obligatory change-of-scenery prospect swap, like Golson-for-Mayberry from a few years back. Any one-time prospects spinning their wheels in another organization that he could be traded for?

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          1. There’s always those guys elsewhere. The trades are pretty rare. I don’t know the org is ready to give up on him, necessarily. They just spent all this effort retooling his swing, which likely took coaching hours away from other players, so to just give up now seems premature. Of course, with his recent partial-game benching for lack of hustle, there’s more to his case than just stats.

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  2. So like Matt was saying in another post, Mecias is due for a big jump in prospect rankings if he keeps doing what he is doing.

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    1. he has only one clunker in 8 starts. I have been watching him closely for weeks now. His K/9 has been elite so far. He needs to sustain few more starts and I think discuss should start to move him to clearwater.

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  3. Can anyone explain what has happened to Joseph ? Why was he demoted ? Is this why they chose 2 more catchers in the draft ? Secondly, in the category “for what its worth,” is it my imagination or is Hewitt getting a sense of what he is doing, or supposed to do ? I know there may be explanations like : he is old for the league ; he still K’s all the time ; he now is a non-special OF ; but he appears ???? to be a more productive player – certainly from his history ? Can anyone explain ??? Thanks.

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    1. PYW gave the answer below. He’s near the medical facilities that CLW has. If you move him to LHV and he starts having headaches, he has to go to CLW anyway.

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  4. maybe they want joseph to get some ABs after being on the DL a awhile before bringing him back to AAA.

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  5. Was TJ’s concussion due to a foul tip or did he get clipped by a bat? Because if it was a foul ball, there is no way he can stay behind the plate long term.

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    2. I don’t get how foul tip and staying behind the plate are connected. Catchers take them off the mask all the time on foul tips. Joseph was unlucky enough that it caused a concussion (so many factors at play on why it caused a concussion that no one here is qualified to answer)

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      1. I think its a very rare case that a mask will not prevent a concussion on a foul ball, it is a strong possibility that he won’t be able to handle that kind of contact going forward, especially since the risk of further concussions is magnified every time you have one. I’d be concerned.

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        1. Who knows, maybe he turned his head and the ball hit him in the head rather than in the mask. I’ve seen that happen too…
          The bigger question is whether his bat will ever become a major league bat. He wasn’t tearing it up before he got hurt and he didn’t hit much last year after the trade. I think its time to get officially worried. Rupp on the other hand is improving and is certainly the closest of the three (Valle, Jospeh, and Rupp) to the big leagues.

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          1. Rupp’s OPS in AA was only about .040 points higher than Joseph’s in Reading, and Rupp is 3 years older. I don’t understand why people keep saying he struggled after the trade. It’s not true. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

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            2. Yes, Rupp is better defensively, but I was responding to comments about Joseph’s bat. Joseph’s BABIP was probably higher in part due to a better line drive rate. And the 3 year age difference is huge.

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            3. Yeah, I think I’ve said before that even though Rupp may be passing Joseph on the depth chart for need at the top of the system, it doesn’t change the fact that Joseph is a big-time prospect and Rupp has a ceiling of a short-career big league regular. Joseph, even if he takes until 2015 to get to the bigs, will be 2 years younger than Rupp will be for his now more-likely opening day roster debut in 2014. Those two years of prime activity can’t be conjured up out of thin air, and add to that Joseph’s bat advantage and it’s clear he remains the better prospect. Joseph’s arm is touted as better as well, sapping some of the defensive advantage for Rupp.

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  7. Really not trying to kick a guy when hes down, but that really sounds bat if you have a catcher with a concussion issue from a foul ball. At least they had the common sense to wait awhile until they let him play again.
    I hope he turns it around so the 2nd Pence trade doesnt turn into how bad the 1st trade will look in 5 years.
    But then again, who needs a .290 25+ Hr middle of the lineup RF’er….. Certainly not the Phillies.

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    1. I think this concussion is more about the level of scrutiny now thrown at sports concussions. In the old days, he probably wouldn’t even come out of the game but now you have to pass all kinds of tests before you get back in. I’m all for it but nowadays they don’t mess with a concussion.

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      1. In the old days, nobody would talk about it (they’d laugh that he “got his bell rung” too many times – so damned funny, eh?), the guy would retire from baseball at age 26 due to chronic “headaches” and would die of dementia-related causes at age 53 like Mike Webster from the Steelers. Gotta love the “good old days.”

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    2. its close but I would still put Tyson Gillies ahead of him. I think Dugan, Franco & Altherr are all close to getting promoted so we won’t need to look at Reading box score with one eye closed much longer.

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    4. I’d probably go Collier, Gillies, Valle, Hewitt, Duran. And that is a pretty sad list.

      Hewitt looks like a nice surprise, especially as he starts hitting for a little more power, as he seems to be lately. But his BABIP is still more than 50 pts higher than prior years, with a lower line-drive rate. That’s bound to keep coming down and draggin with it his OBP, unless he starts making better LD contact. Walks are up a little on the year, but flagging since April. I think he’s still the same old guy we’ve known for years, but maybe he gets hot again and keeps some of those stats up in more respectable ranges. Also he’s running more than last year, so that’s a bonus. He stole 35 in 2011, which I’m always surprised by when I see it. If he could go 15HR/25SB and somehow not get eaten alive by breaking balls at AAA in 2014, he might play himself into a big league bench role. I think I said the same about Derrick Mitchell 2 year ago, though, and look how that went.

      Valle’s been a mess, but more regular PAs could help him with his hitting. Collier has the second half to get it going, and Gillies has to go back to AAA shortly to make room for someone coming up from CLR. Duran is doing about what you would have expected if you didn’t think he was poised for a bit of a breakout like I did. He still may be a big league utility type, but he’s got to hit a little more. He’s striking out a lot this year. Maybe the reason no one ever paid him much attention is that they all knew he would never survive AA pitching, and him popping a couple in 2012 to pad his line didn’t change that fact at all. He’s still just 22, so he’ll have time to work on it.

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  9. Time to start looking to the minor leagues for some hope. Unfortunately, the “cupboard is bare.” The good stuff has gone to Houston. Wouldn’t it be nice to have Cosart, Singleton, and Villar, along with Santana? That’d be the answer to the current decline of the veterans on our team. Oswalt and Pence gave us a boost, but struggled in their second seasons with the club. It is also questionable whether these trades were necessary. Now I understand why Chuck Lamar resigned. It looks like the next true impact position player is all the way down I High-A–Mikail Franco. Gotta restock the cupboard with a firesale this season.

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    1. Dan which one of these players would you say would be able to help us now?? singleton is just coming back i believe , cosart walks are a real concern, villar might be the best of the lot, and he isnt a replacement for rollins. and santana is a strikeout machine.

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      1. You’d also have nowhere to play Singleton even if he was ready. He can’t play the Outfield and Howard is at First and pretty untradeable unless they eat a huge amount of money.

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    2. Mr. Optimism stikes again but I wish you would get you facts correct before you post.

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    3. “Gotta restock the cupboard with a firesale this season.”

      Not at all.

      You and your kind need to become Miami Marlins fans.

      You can’t adapt the name “Phightens” and then bend over and drop your pants at the trade deadline…the way the Phillies did last year.

      How did that “restocking” work out?

      You want to fix the farm? Sign RAFAEL DEVERS. Pay his buscone. That’s how you do it. You pay for prospects, you don’t sell your good players for the prospects some other team doesn’t view as keepers.

      In the mean time you pay Robbie Cano and the Choo-Choo Train.

      That’s how it’s done when the MLB team plays in the fourth largest media market in MLB and they’re the only team in town.

      Any other path is a criminal SCAM.

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  10. Luis Encarnacion, 3B, 6’2″ 185lbs, R/R, Dominican Republic

    Trainer: Juan Herrera

    Age: 15.10 years

    A third baseman with a big strong athletic build, Encarnacion has the look of a future middle-of-the-order hitter and run producer. Physically imposing in the batter’s box he uses simple swing mechanics, and a slight leg lift to generate plus raw power. The ball simply explodes off his bat with natural lift. Encarnacion hit one of the deepest homeruns during the MLB International Showcase. More than just a batting practice monster, Encarnacion was one of the few top prospects to perform well during games at the MLB showcase going 4-7 with a double. His barrel awareness and ability to consistently square up pitches suggest that he will not just be an all-or-nothing slugger, but a good all-around hitter. Recorded a very respectable 60 time(7.02) for a corner infielder, but not a smooth runner at all. Arm looks to be about average but accurate and online for the most part. Has the tools and bat to profile at third but is not a certainty to stick there long term. Okay moving left to right on grounders but range is only average. Reactions and hands need to improve as he seems to have difficulty with balls hit directly at him. Bat should be enough to play at first base if a position shift becomes necessary though. The Phillies are believed to have the most interest, offering as much as 1mm according to a recent report out of the Dominican.

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  11. Micker Adolfo Zapata, OF, 6’3″ 225lbs, R/R, Dominican Republic

    Trainer: Abel Guerra

    Age: 16.9 years

    Considered one of the elite prospects available for July 2, Zapata’s calling card is his massive power potential which rates as a 70 on a scouting scale. With his quick loose swing, he consistently puts on BP displays that leave scouts and onlookers alike in awe as he he hits bomb after bomb. Despite a mature well-developed build, with a thick lower half, Zapata is a solid runner (6.80) with the arm strength (60 rating) for an outfielder corner. Like most players his age Zapata looks raw at the plate and can be impatient at times. At present he has trouble with the pitch away, and tends to lose his lower half on off speed pitches, but all the physical tools are there to be a major offensive player. Zapata doesn’t play for either the DPL or the IPL and speaks fluent English as he was born in the Virgin Islands. Reports suggest Zapata may already have been offered 1mm by the Phillies with the White Sox and Padres also showing interest in the young slugger. Sources say his trainer is looking for a bonus in the range of 1.3mm.
    You guys are gonna hate who he was compared to though…..Delmon Young

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      1. No.

        But it’s of no concern here as David Montgomery forbids the Phillies from participating in an open bidding process. There must be “caps” and “slots” present or the Phillies pretend the player does not exist.

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    1. And we just spent all that time talking about that today. Have to wonder how he made it back onto the field in the first place if he was still having symptoms. Maybe progress/regress just because concussions are weird. Hopefully he didn’t sustain another one. That soon can be crazy bad.

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      1. Concussions are a nightmare. People need to understand that if you have one and suffer another one shortly thereafter – the second one, even caused by less severe physical impact, is typically ten times worse in terms of effect on the brain. If it were me, I’d shut Joseph down completely if there’s any risk of a relapse this year – he’s two valuable and too young of a person to have his whole career jeopardized by this issue. Hopefully he was just suffering secondary effects and there was not a second concussion. A serious concussion automatically takes his prospect grade down a full letter – but the real concern is for the person.

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        1. It’s probably safe to think after effects. It’s not uncommon for someone to have a concussion and start strenuous activity like baseball or football again and suffer migraines, vertigo, depression or a host of other symptoms (possibly dependent on where the damage was). That’s what kept Crosby out for the Pens for so long, every time he’d start working out again, the symptoms would pop back up.

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          1. Not that I would wish after effects on anyone, but that’s probably preferable to suffering another concussion. Let’s be honest here – Joseph must have suffered a pretty bad concussion and, in his line of work as a catcher, that’s really not good.

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    2. Ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu…

      Well, at least we won’t have legit prospects splitting reps behind the dish for a while.
      /silverlinning

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    1. He’s been on the DL with an oblique strain since April. Last I read they were hoping he might be well enough to come back during the 2nd half of the season.

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