Box Score Recap – 5/31/2013

Box Score Recap

Tyson Gillies with 2 HR in one night, and 4 in his last 6 games. That’s worth watching. If his goal this season was to retool his swing for more power, and he suddenly has more power, maybe the “retool” has finally worked. We shall see.

Three hits for Carlos Tocci, two including a homerun for Brian Pointer, and a good line from Shane Watson – 5IP, 2R, 2H, 1BB, 5K – the only bad thing is one of the hits was a round-tripper. Kelly Dugan’s been on base 9 times the last three days. And once a day, he got to slow down and jog all the way. Feelin’ the flow. Workin’ it. Workin’ it.

Cam Perkins pulled from the game for pinch-runner Chris Serritella, (odd phrase, that), after being hit by a pitch on the hand. Let’s hope he’s alright.

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130531

5-31-13 boxscores

69 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 5/31/2013”

  1. I was at the reading game last night; Biddle was consistently in the 91-93 range. I was directly across from first base so I couldn’t see movement or location to well. One negative that really stuck out was his move to first, runners had him read like a book and almost never had to dive to get back to the bag. On 2 occasions he started his motion from the stretch while staring down the runner and both pitches were very high. One of the hits he gave up was a double that should have been caught but Collier lost it in the sun and I can’t blame him the sun was shining directly into right field.

    Side note I have never seen someone round the bases on a hr as fast as Gillies did last night

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    1. Thanks for the report. I’m hoping the retooling of Gillies’ swing is starting to pay dividends. It’s obviously been a roller coaster with this kid, but just seeing him play consistently every day rekindles a little bit of that hope that he might one day patrol CF at CBP.

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      1. If Gillies patrols CF at CBP…it will be a brief year or two…Tocci will be the guy eventually.

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        1. No, Tocci isn’t that close. He’s very, very young. It is going to be at least as slow as one station per season, which puts him in Philly in 2017. I doubt he makes it that quickly, as he needs to add muscle. I would be surprised if he doesn’t have to repeat a level at some point. Not that he couldn’t necessarily hold his own in Philly in 2017, but I think you start the arb clock for a lesser offensive season than we’re getting now from Revere.

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          1. Gillies will not be patroling CF, if at all, until 2015, so he will have a year or two before Tocci is ready.

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            1. Gillies will not be patroling CF, if at all, until 2015…change that to June 2014, if Revere slides downward again next year at the start.

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            2. Unless something changes drastically (like he gets hurt) you have to figure he’ll be a September call up.

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  2. I’m thinking that Dugan deserves a promotion to that sad squad in reading. He was a relatively high draft pick and is finally healthy.

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  3. Franco just keeps collecting XBH. It’s really awesome. Anyone know what’s going on with Isava in the VSL. Haven’t really seen him in the last few boxes.

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    1. He played the 29th, but yeah, I noticed that too. Not much chance we’re going to hear anything there. VSL boxes are about all we get.

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  4. roccom says:
    February 15, 2013 at 2:05 PM
    I just dont understand. what a 1000 at bats will do for brown. He cant hit a fastball, sorry a good fastballs. cant get around on them. that is a big hole, and 5000 at bats can’t cure a lack of talent. if i am wrong i will kiss your ____ on broad street.this guy cant hit. let alone field. another toolsy flop. plain and simlpe”

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    1. roccomr says:
      February 15, 2013 at 5:24 PM
      mratfink. here is how sure i am. i PROMISE if he hits 260, with say 15 homeruns , YOU wont have to ever see me post again. i am so sure, he is a flop. if i am wrong, i will apologize and nver post again. and were did you see him turn on any good fastballs??????? i nevr saw him hit one yet”

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        1. I always have, cant believe the season is over. he is over in homeruns. but lets see the average. if he hits 220 with 22 homeruns, you gives will want to give him the mvp award.

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          1. excuse me is the season over? we know your not a man of your word anonymous,, you wont post your name,

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            1. Whereas I’m sure that roccom is your actual name.
              And you never stated that Brown had to be doing that at the end of the season. He just had to
              1) hit 15 home runs
              2) while hitting .260.

              Moving the goalposts, huh?

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            2. Not picking sides but I think it’s fair to assume that Roccum was talking end of season results rather than any point in between. The latter would be rather silly if Brown ends up hitting .230 for the season, right?

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            3. Picking a name is still a form of anonymity, but it’s nice to know which “anonymous” person is talking, no? I would love if all the anonymous would just pick old Phillies failed minor leaguers as screennames. That way we could argue with “Matt Rizzotti” and “Jeff Jackson” and “Jason Knapp” and such.

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            6. Steve, that’s a reasonable assumption. I was kidding with my quip about moving the goalposts.

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          2. dom brown not one walk in may. I got a good change of this guy going down the toilet. 308 obp. I am still alive.

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            1. roccom………no love at all for Domo? He may our one bright star this year. I think he gets selected for the all-star game.

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  6. Domonic Brown is a great supprise so far this year! I mean Wow!
    I do think that people shouldn’t complain about the phillies not giving him a fair chance before this year.If he would’ve even been an average with his outfield play,they could have trusted him more.

    I don’t understand,with these good athletes,why some of them aren’t more consistant with their fielding,I feel that is something that if they really care and put the effort in with consistant focus,we would see better defense.

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    1. I think that is a copout. Ibanez and D Young have never been average with their OF play in Philly, yet Cholly had no problems giving both of them playing time. Management looked for excuses not to play Brown.

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  7. Tocci hitting .308/.349/.359 in his last 10. Good.
    LGJ hitting .077/.163/.077. Bad.

    Greene’s season statistics (SSS, I hope) are abysmal. He is slugging .220 on the year. On the season, Greene’s SLG is 66 points lower than 17-year-old, 160-pound Carlos Tocci’s. Has there ever been a power prospect who has been so woefully deficient at producing even a modicum of power in the team’s history?

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  8. Anybody think the Marlins would trade Stanton in a package with Domo now? Six weeks ago that was unheard of. Amazing how things can change in baseball so fast! Cole and Domo going in opposite directions this year.

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  9. So, what’s the plan with Colvin? Were they trying him in the bullpen to stretch out his arm (seems unlikely), to get him confidence, or did they give up on him after 3 non-terrible starts this year?

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    1. They want him in Reading and starting but they have synched up to a rotation spot and don’t want to bump someone else right now. From Gorm Heimueller minor league pitch coordinator:

      Well, Brody is by far, I mean he’s much improved over last year…his command of all three of his pitches. He came into camp in great shape and was throwing the ball real well. And I think it was his groin or hamstring that he strained and missed some time and we wanted to get him back pitching. At the time, there was no room to start then, but he pitched four innings the other day and we know he’s there to start and it’s a long season, but we wanted to get him back up there to Double-A and start pitching at that level and contributing and he’s pitched real well since he’s come back.

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      1. Thanks for that. I wasn’t thinking that Buchanan and Neris were guys that really needed a longer look in the rotation. I’m not sure if that says something good about them or bad about Colvin. Either way, it’s good to know the ship hasn’t quite sailed on Colvin starting.

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      2. I suspect the unsaid reason is they don’t want Colvin to throw too many innings this season. By relieving for a while, he will limit IP on the season. If you really believe that Colvin’s control is much improved on all three of his pitches, then there really isn’t all that much in the Reading rotation, apart from Biddle, for Colvin to step aside for. Most of the other guys are going to be relievers, if they make the show at all.

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  10. What I’m most impressed by with Franco is seeing his first error looking at the box score on June 1st. In fact I’m so impressed I don’t even know what to write. No clue what his range is, but its got to be somewhat decent. Anyone know what his projection is for defense?

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    1. All the reports I have seen says that he has above average defense (better than Asche) at this point, but there is some concern that if he gets bigger as he gets older the might be some decay.

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  11. Damn…are we to start believing that Dugan is legit? If this keeps up he has to skyrocket in terms of his position in the organizational rankings.

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    1. Dugan is a legitimate prospect. Been one of the best looking ones in the system the past few years. Staying on the field has always been the problem. Dugan can hit. If he can get his K rate down a bit he’ll be just fine

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      1. he’s lowered it to just over 20%. If he can maintain that, and do well if/when he gets promoted to Reading than he’s easily top 15 borderline top 10 prospect. Assumin of course the power stays at it’s current level.

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        1. Let’s see: Biddle, Franco, Quinn, Morgan, Joseph, Hernandez, Tocci, Martin, Watson, Asche, Rosin, Mecias, Altherr… You are probably right. Dugan (along with Perkins) is probably top 15 right now.

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    1. The Moon? I’m sure he could hit a couple HRs there, what with the lower gravity and stuff.

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    2. I’m not sure he ever really had anything other than batting practice power. The theory being that if you can hit super blasts in batting practice, you have raw power and just need to improve your hit tool to translate the raw power into game power. I don’t think it really works that way. A big muscled guy who knows what softballs are coming in BP can do an all out swing and hit tape measure HR, but that doesn’t mean he has any sort of skill that translates into game action. That’s why ‘raw power’ seems less and less valuable and predictive a tool to me. I’ll take a hit and pitch recognition skill set over raw power every day. So many guys who can’t hit are projected with great raw power. We draft quite a few of them.

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      1. We’re now up to 118 AB on Greene for the season and his ‘power’ consists of 5 doubles, no triples, and no HRs. He’s pushing 400 career pro AB, with 2 HRs to show for it. A homerun every 190 or so AB. Now, that’s real power. A 70+ raw power tool. It’s a joke. I mean you don’t need a high batting average or the worlds greatest contact rate to show your in-game power, if you’ve got it. Dave Kingman is the poster child for that — couldn’t hit, but the power was evident in a lot of HR.

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    3. Forget about power, where’s his hitting, period.

      Unlike the rest of you who are being diplomatic, I am getting pretty close to writing this guy off. He has some plate discipline so I’ll give him that, but, aside from that, he has shown nothing as a hitter this year and, when I saw him in ST, I was not impressed. Dylan Cozens appeared to have much, much more power than L. Greene. Tyson Gillies also seemed to have more power than Greene (Gillies’ power is real folks, whether he can continue to translate it to in-game at bats is another question, although he’s moving it along).

      For context, I ask you this, how many guys who are pure hitters (let alone pure power hitters), can you remember struggling this badly for two years and going on to have good major league careers? I don’t remember any. And I’m not talking about guys who have had middling statistics for a few years in the minors (like Matt Holiday) nor am I referring to guys who struggle in a half year of rookie ball after being drafted (this happens all the time), I’m talking about guys who have bombed out in the two seasons after they were drafted. Make a list and get back to me, I think you’ll be sorely disappointed.

      In any event, I’ll be hoping Greene can turn it around this year and become productive, but I’m extremely pessimistic at this point. I don’t give him any more than a 5% chance that he’ll turn into a productive big leaguer.

      Let’s talk about something less depressing, like Kelly Dugan, who is becoming a stud before our eyes.

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  14. Understand the frustration with Greene but it’s really too early to close the book on him. While it certainly appears that he has little chance of ever becoming an all-star at the MLB level, there’s still time for him to show improvement enough to remain on the prospect radar. Right now I’m most concerned with any distractions the kid may be facing that would lead him to come into camp out of shape two years in a row. If it’s strictly a character/work-ethic thing, he might mature out of that.

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    2. Let me be clear, I’m not writing the guy off. Just having a little fun at his expense is all.

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  15. I’m really surprised what Tocci is doing at 17 yrs old in Low A ball in his first two months isn’t getting more love here. A year ago this time, nobody thought hed even be playing at Lakewood, let alone batting second, hitting over 230, low K rate, and playing an above avg CF. I also don’t understand why people think he’ll have to skip a level, if he continues his progression why couldn’t he reach Philly by age 21? He has a lot of opportunity to physically strengthen between 17 and 21. I also don’t understand why everyone thinks he needs to be a finished product before his clock is started. It is perfectly fine for him to continue to improve after he hits the majors.

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    1. I think everyone is actually quite high on Tocci. The Phillies just do not voluntarily bring up guys to start a season and start their clocks if they aren’t a finished product and there is no vet standing in their way. You could ask Utley, Howard, and Brown about that.

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      1. Just because the Phillies haven’t done it, doesn’t make it right. Especially with Brown.

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        1. I’m certainly not suggesting it’s right. Utley was messed with more than anyone. He lost a year off his major league career and now has bad knees. He spent at least an extra season in the minors and it shortened his major league career, giving up one of his prime seasons.

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          1. Love Tocci. He just oozes ‘ballplayer’. Still lots of hurdles for him yet but he has the makings of something special even if he may never have above average power.

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            1. Perkins also.
              “Cameron has been kind of a surprise,” said Marti Wolever, the Phillies’ assistant general manager in charge of amateur scouting. “When you look at him as an outsider looking in, he’s a little knock- kneed and he kind of looks like Bambi when he runs sometimes. The bottom line is the results on the field and they were pretty good in college and they’ve been pretty good here.”
              “He’s one of those guys who is a baseball player,” Wolever said. “He’s kind of like Cody Asche. A little like Chase Utley when he was in college. You don’t know if there are highs or lows because they’re the same guy whenever they come out to play.”
              It’s not just the Phillies who like Perkins either.
              “Love him,” a National League scout said. “He’s a baseball player. He has some pretty good instincts. He runs well and plays a good outfield.”

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  16. Tocci and Lakewood teammates listed by K-rate in decreasing order

    Player (Age) PAs/Ks (K-rate)

    Greene (20+) 143/48 (33.6%)
    Walding (20+) 205/51 (24.9%)
    Charles (22+) 200/48 (24%)
    Quinn (20) 225/52 (23.1%)
    Pointer (21+) 209/47 (22.5%)
    Tocci (17+) 201/24 (11.9%)

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