Clearwater Threshers Report–4/18/11

Recap:  The Threshers went 3-4 on the week, dropping 2 of 3 to Daytona (Cubs), taking 2 of 3 from Brevard County (Brewers), then losing the opener of another series with Daytona.  Clearwater sits at 7-4, a game out of first in the FSL North.  The most notable news out of Clearwater has been the loss of Brody Colvin and Jonathan Singleton.  Colvin was placed on the DL with a back injury and Singleton sat out all week with a left arm injury.  He made it back into Sunday’s game, but after a caught stealing while he was batting, he didn’t take the field.

Hitters:

  • Leandro Castro:  8-27 (.296), 3 2B, HR, RBI, 2 BB, 3 K, E
  • Cesar Hernandez:  2-23 (.087), RBI, BB, 8 K,  CS (still early, but .105/.150/.105 after 38 ABs is really tough to reconcile.  Of course, that line would make him the MVP at Lakewood)
  • Jiwan James:  7-30 (.233), 2 2B, HR, RBI, 2 BB, 9 K, CS, E
  • Travis Mattair:  8-24, 2 2B, HR, 8 RBI, 0 BB, 7 K, 2 E
  • Joe Savery:  10-25 (.400), 2 2B, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 2 K
  • Jonathan Singleton:  1-3 (.333), 2B, BB, K
  • Sebastian Valle:  6 for 21 (.286), 2 2B, 3B, 5 RBI, BB, 7 K, E, 40% CS
NOTES:  In the early going, Castro and Savery are littered about the FSL batting leaders, especially in the slash line categories…Hernandez’ start is even worse when you consider that three of his four hits came in one game…James followed up a promising 3 BB/1 K opening weekend with a more troublesome BB/K ratio…not sure if Mattair is still a “prospect” by even the broadest definition, but at least the year off hasn’t seemed to hurt him…a .400 week and Savery’s average plummeted…the Cherry Hill Courier Post reported Singleton was out with a “sore left arm”.
Pitchers:
  • Jarred Cosart:  2 GS, 11 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 9 K, 0 HR, 14 GO, 6 FO
  • Jordan Ellis:  3 IP, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 0 HR, 2 GO, 1 FO
  • Ebelin Lugo:  5.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 0 HR, 10 GO, 3 FO
  • Trevor May:  4 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 4 BB, 5 K, 0 HR, 1 GO, 1 FO
  • Jon Pettibone:  6 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 0 HR, 8 GO, 6 FO
  • Julio Rodriguez:  8.2 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 6 BB, 9 K, 1 HR, 3 GO, 5 FO
NOTES:  May’s start included a bad first and fourth innings sandwiched around good second and third innings…Cosart has a 1.06 WHIP after three starts…Pettibone has an identical 0.82 WHIP and ERA.

23 thoughts on “Clearwater Threshers Report–4/18/11

      1. The above article shows stats. There are guys with better stats but not listed. Why are the ones above listed when their numbers are not worth mentioning

  1. How about posting numbers of guys that are producing? like Loop, 5 inning, 5k’s, 0runs, 1 hit, 1 walk, 0.00 era. Or, Esposito, 8.2 innings, 7k’s, 5 hits, 4 walks, 0.00 era. Or Friend 5 games with 5 saves, allowing one run.

    1. Because none of them are prospects and they will never play an inning in the major leagues. Also, the guys posted generally have a longer track record than 10 decent games.

    1. Not to belabor the point here, but am I supposed to omit a guy like Cesar Hernandez because his first ten games after double-jumping haven’t been great?

      I will, over the course of the season, add or subtract people from my list. Like last year, Jeremy Barnes ended up getting included regularly even though he wasn’t a Top 30 guy. Same with Ebelin Lugo. But Derrick Loop, who is 27 and playing in A-ball and has been with multiple teams? I mean, if you really want to follow him, you can set him as a bookmark over at milb.com, but I don’t see any point in including him at this point on a “prospect” site, no matter how broadly you define prospect.

      1. Puko – I think “27-year-old A ball player” completely eliminates him as a prospect. Good call on your part!

        What’s the font for sarcasm again??

  2. It would be good for Rudy and for whomever else visits this site to enjoy it, knowing that it is a site for prospects (those listed) who may someday play for the Phillies. If you have no interest in prospects, you may be disappointed by the site. Many of us are delighted to follow the prospects here because the site gives us what we want. Believe me Rudy, there are many of us. Settle back, relax and enjoy following the prospects, but don’t look at Lakewood just yet.

    1. Ignore people who are clearly trying to stir the pot. This site is great the guys do a good job of informing us, with a good forum conversation. If you want to see everyones stats you can go to their teams web site and view the boxscores.

  3. Didn’t mean to stir the pot, not my intention. I saw the stats above and was curious why guys with good stats so far were omitted. I didn’t know we were only looking at a select few. I for one always root for an underdog, so if a guy who is not a big prospect decides to put up nice numbers, I like to root for that guy. If that’s stirring the pot, then I apologize.

  4. Because we’re interesting in the progression of guys that will help the Phillies, not the nightly performances of some career minor leaguer who actually got a multi-hit game or pitched 5 some-what impressive innings. The above stats aren’t “terrible”, they’re useful in starting conversations about our top farm hands.

    Maybe asking why more coverage wasn’t given to a particular player as opposed to blindly announcing to everyone that something was terrible might have been the better way to approach the topic? Just a thought.

  5. Not to mention, I hardly think that discussing the performance of the above-listed 13 players (from one team) qualifies as the “select few” as you so eloquently stated. If you have something to offer then do it. Don’t just declare that the time and effort that someone else spent in posting information for the rest of us is “terrible”.

    The overly obnoxious and confrontational tones taken up recently on this site have really got to go. I’m sure there’s a market out there for a blog about Phillies prospects who have no earthly chance of ever sniffing the big leagues. “Phuture Iron Pigs”. Get to it.

  6. Hey Rudy,

    I was a bit confused by your comments at first as well – especially when you have someone like Puko investing his time to put this together. That said I now see where you are coming from on your question. Not to speak for Puko (or any other contributor) but what you’ll generally see here is the stats for people that have true “prospect” stats – good or bad. As an example Hernandez has been getting some buzz, from a number of publications, so it’s “interesting” to see where his stats are. (Quick aside on that – if you put everything I own in my car, and push it off a cliff, tecnhically that’s “interesting” – but doesn’t make it good:))

    I think what you’ll see, as the season moves on, is that if there are other under the radar people still doing well they’ll start to crop up in the stat listings as maybe they are a sleeper, etc.

    1. Nice addition Steve,
      Maybe Rudy could have added a post with the stats of the players he was interested in, asking for some input from everyone – as opposed to just condemning the work that Puko put into the thread to begin with.

      If it seems like I jumped down his throat – and that certainly was my objective – it b/c I think that blindly trashing someone else’s work is reprehensible. People [Puko for example] put serious time into this site and for Rudy to just declare it terrible just shows his ignorance. Either offer something constructive or go to Free AEC’s site.

  7. i don’t think rudy was trying to stir the pot like free uc. just didn’t say it the best way.
    keep on posting my friend and don’t be discouraged we aren’t always this confrontational.

  8. he didnt trash anyones work…he made an observation…yes that observation was off base and doesnt really make much sense but he didnt say or do anything in a nasty way and then he even said he didnt intend to “stir the pot”

    you look like the ass here rick

    1. Agree here. He didn’t say the work was terrible, if you read it again, he’s saying the NUMBERS are horrible. As if to say why are you reporting on bad play.

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