The Phillies have the 27th overall selection in the first round. For the first time since 2021, the Phillies have all their allotted picks.
In 2023, they gave up their second- and fifth-round picks when they signed free agent shortstop Trea Turner who had a qualifying offer attached. They selected and signed all 18 allotted picks. They exceeded their Bonus Allotment but were within the 5% allowed overage by less than $10K. They also signed 7 non-drafted free agents.
In 2022, they forfeited their second-round pick when they signed free agent outfielder Nick Castellanos who had a qualifying offer attached. They selected and signed 18 of their 19 allotted picks. They exceeded their Bonus Allotment but were within the 5% allowed overage by a little over $50K. They also signed 14 non-drafted free agents.
The Phillies have one of the smallest bonus pool allotments – $7,381,800. Only the Rangers, Dodgers, and Astros have smaller allotments.
The complete slot breakdown is as follows (round, pick, $) –
- 27th overall: $3,228,300
- 63rd overall: $1,352,000
- 100th overall: $730,500
- 130th overall: $545,400
- 162nd overall: $399,600
- 192nd overall: $310,300
- 222nd overall: $244,300
- 252nd overall: $204,400
- 282nd overall: $188,200
- 312th overall: $178,800
- 343rd overall: capped at $150,000 – picks in rounds 11 thru 20 are each capped at $150, 000 (per the recent CBA) which doesn’t count against the bonus pool; any portion exceeding this figure counts against the bonus pool.
- 373rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 403rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 433rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 463rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 493rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 523rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 553rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 583rd overall: capped at $150,000
- 613th overall: capped at $150,000
Contracts for non-drafted free agents are no longer capped at $20,000. However, any amount over $150,000 counts against the allotted bonus pool.
Schedule (All Times ET)
- Sunday, July 14
- Day 1 (74 picks)
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- Round 1 (30 picks – New York (NL), San Diego, and New York (AL) first-round picks were dropped 10 spots because they exceeded the second surcharge threshold of the competitive balance tax by more than $40 million),
- Prospect Promotion Incentive Round (2 picks – Arizona for Colton Carroll and Baltimore for Gunnar Hendrickson. If a player who was rated as a preseason Top 100 prospect by at least two of MLB Pipeline, Baseball America, and ESPN and was on his team’s Opening Day roster goes on to win the Rookie of the Year Award, the club is awarded a Prospect Promotion Incentive pick after the first round),
- Compensation Round (1 pick – Minnesota for Sonny Gray – If a team that loses a qualifying free agent is a revenue-sharing recipient and the free agent signs for at least $50 million, the team will be awarded a pick between the first round and Competitive Balance Round A),
- Competitive Balance Round A (6 picks – Milwaukee, Arizona, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Colorado, Kansas City – All teams that have either one of the 10 smallest markets or 10 smallest revenue pools receive an additional pick at the end of the first or second round. The groups of teams alternate between the two rounds each year. Competitive Balance picks may be traded and are not subject to forfeiture. However, Competitive Balance picks acquired by another club in a trade are subject to forfeiture),
- Round 2 (26 picks – Houston, St. Louis, Los Angeles (NL), and San Francisco forfeited their second-round picks for signing free agents who had received qualifying offers),
- Competitive Balance Round B (8 picks – Tampa Bay, Milwaukee, Chicago (AL), Minnesota, Miami, Cincinnati, Detroit, Oakland),
- and another Compensation Round (1 pick – Los Angeles (AL) for Shohei Ohtani – If a team that loses a qualifying free agent does not receive revenue sharing and did not exceed the luxury-tax salary threshold the previous season, it is awarded a compensatory pick after Competitive Balance Round B.).
- The pregame show begins at 6:00 PM on MLB Network. All 74 picks can be seen on the MLB Network, ESPN, and streaming live on MLB.com.
Round 1 begins at 7:00 PM EST
- Monday, July 15
- Day 2 (241 picks)
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- Round 3 (29 picks – San Francisco forfeited their third-round pick for signing a free agent who had received a qualifying offer),
- Round 4 (30 picks),
- A third Compensation Round (3 picks – San Diego for Josh Hader, San Diego for Blake Snell, Toronto for Matt Chapman – If a team that loses a qualifying free agent does not receive revenue sharing and did exceed the luxury-tax salary threshold the previous season, it is awarded a compensatory pick after the fourth round.),
- Round 5 (29 picks – Los Angeles (NL) forfeited their fifth-round pick for signing a free agent who had received a qualifying offer),
- Rounds 6 through 10 (150 picks)
- Streaming live on MLB.com
Round 3 begins at 2:00 PM EST
- Tuesday, July 16
- Day 3 (300 picks)
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- Rounds 11-20 (300 picks)
- Streaming live on MLB.com
Round 11 begins at 2:00 PM EST
The 2024 Draft Tracker will be updated as picks and signings are announced. As in previous years, NDFA’s will be included in the draft tracker.
Most of the reports that I have read is that this is a weak draft. Especially after the top 10. As such, I would draft the highest upside pitcher in the first round. I also like Theo
Gillen whom has been mocked for them. Big strong athlete that seems to have a good hit tool.
I would NOT draft Tommy White. Love the bat and he will hit but he is a DH at the MLB level imo. Maybe, maybe a first baseman. But definitely not a third baseman. He is a slow and thick athlete.
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I also like Luke
Dickerson a lot. He is a NJ kid. Our high school plays him. He is really an impressive athlete. I know that he may be a reach at 27 but I like him a lot.
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Updated mock from Kiley McDonald:
Brody Brecht, RHP, Iowa
This is probably as far as Brecht falls, and he fits Philly’s tendencies of taking high-upside prospects well. Caleb Bonemer, Morlando, Jordan and Honeycutt could all fit, too.
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Ps I miss Hinkie
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I would love for the Phillies to draft Brecht.
On another note, I we had hopes of getting Rooker, he just got really expensive!
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Rooker is a good fit. Really good against LHP. Power. Takes walks. He would be a great fit. But he is not a platoon. He is a guy who needs to play every day. So if you get him then you platoon Marsh and Rojas in CF.
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For the record, I would take Caglianone 1:1 and Burns 1:2.
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Cag will not be there at 27…he will not be ther at 7 either most likely.
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Oops…read your post wrong…..
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Who I hope we get: Brecht
Who I think we’ll take (if available): Tommy White
Also, welcome to the Phillies Mason Miller and/or Rooker
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Theo Gillen went 18 to Tampa Bay. Several mocks had him going go us at 27. Big kid with a good hit tool.
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Gillen was my dark horse — really like his swing
Both Gillen and Morlando being taken early is a little surprising
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Honeycutt going to Baltimore. Dodged a bullet imo. Electric player but I don’t like his hit tool.
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Well,…………I can tell you guys are scrambling.
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Definitely a shocker with some big names still on the board
But I guess the Phillies wanted their guy
The MLB dot com write-up on him is not exactly encouraging tho, despite his blazing speed and top-of-the-charts OF range
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I trust this FO. Here is what I found on Nori:
– 60yrd dash: 6.15 which is 99.98 percentile. So this kid can fly. As a comp, Crawford was a 6.11 sixty. So his speed is in that range.
Based on outfield velo, he has a better arm than Crawford.
Last year in PerfectGame events he had 94 plate appearances and only 3 strikeouts. 22 walks and 31 hits .431/.577/.681. So good bat to ball skills. But zero homers.
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his dad Micah is a coach in the nba for the timberwolves. His grandpa made it to AAA with the mets. His dad comps him to a corbin carroll type player
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he will be 20 in a few months, only 6-7 months younger than crawford
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#19 prospect in Lindy’s, but is almost 20 years old.
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One of the guys the Phillies liked, and thought might be available went at 23 to the Dodgers – Kellen Lindsey a prep school SS from FL. Surprised they didn’t take the pitcher from Iowa. Heard they liked him too.
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Brecht (#21 prospect) sliding to second round.
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Lindsey was scouted by the same scout who scouted Aidan Miller.
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Just went pick 38. Bummer. I liked him.
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It would not surprise me if the Phillies aggressively promote Dante Nori based on his age.
Pretty sure Nori won’t land in the top 100 and I would slot him at #5 in the MLB Pipeline Phillies top 30.
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Damn, Nats got Luke Dickerson. Remember that name. Kid is good.
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In Baseball America Special rundown of the draft – Best Tool Categories :
Nori ranks 2nd among all high school players for BEST SPEED
Nori ranks 5th among all high school players for BEST HITTER
This is likely why he was drafted this high – plus he is “old” for the class (20 in October), and I would guess was slightly under scouted. Phils thought they could “steal” another draft choice – like Miller. Wouldn’t be surprised if his cost is such that they can spread more money over other players as well ?
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He’s a very interesting prospect. Obviously elite speed. But only 3 strikeouts in club ball with 94 PAs is elite contact ability. Kinda reminds me of Saltiban as a prospect.
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Nori has a short compact swing.
https://x.com/PBR_DraftHQ/status/1812662286936367119
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Jim. You think Nori is an under slot deal?
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That was my first impression, but I don’t know. Then I thought that because of his age he might give the Phillies the freedom to trade Crawford. But, then I was brought back down to earth. Nori is going to start on the back fields like any other high school prospect.
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I’m guessing he will be under slot and they will take a few over slot guys in one or more of the next rounds. As I follow this I keep wishing that baseball could figure out a way to include more trading of draft picks. Their system is contorted and strange so they can suppress big salaries. I mean, why not keep the slotting system, allow trades (at least to a point) and then charge teams something like 2x or 3x of the slot value against their luxury tax cap or something like that? Make the draft more interesting. Give teams an opportunity to trade and acquire draft picks. This is so long overdue.
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According to BA = “Nori’s….. advanced age will take him off many team’s draft boards outright. He will be 19 on draft day and turns 20 in October….which makes him one of the oldest prospects in the class and one of the older top 100 talents the industry has seen in years. However, he happens to be one of the better athletes, runners, defenders, and pure hitters in the class……has a compact and direct swing from the left side….he sprays line drives to all fields….while being a contact driven hitter in games he has plenty of power that he flashes in batting practice as well. Nori’s age and lack of projection are the lone marks against him.”
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In a video game scenario, an outfield with Rojas, crawford and Nori would be fastest outfield in game, no gap hits allowed ever…. just having some fun
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Griffin Burkholder has a SWEET swing holy moly
Reminds me a little of Trea Turner’s
Think we got a really good prospect here
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As V1 wrote, the FO has earned trust, still if I had any artistic talent I would color myself disappointed to have two outfielders with the first two picks
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Every draft in every sport I have the same mindset…the only thing this team needs to draft is all-star level talent. Position is not relevant. There is no scenario in which we draft an all star level talent and he doesn’t help us. Even if he is “blocked” doesn’t matter. And I have seen so many scenarios in which a prospect becomes unblocked.
It doesn’t bother me that they took two OFs. If these kids can play then great. I would like to see some big arms today.
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Yep, i dont mind drafting BPA in situations, drafting for need sometimes backfires….
Even if blocked, some of these kids will be trade pieces in the future
not every pick will be with the organization later
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Though Miller was a little older than the normal drafted player, when drafted, hoping Nori, who is also an older draftee, can have the same results as Miller has had so far. The tale will come when they reach double-AA pitching and face pitchers who are virtually MLB ready.
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When I saw Nori’s statistical description and the write-up, I thought to myself “who let Johnny Alamaraz” submit this pick.? I also don’t like that’s almost two years older than a typical HS pick – that’s almost weird. But then I saw the kid and he’s athletic and very put together and strong. So they’ve earned a little trust here. I think I like the second round pick even more than the first pick. That kid is athletic and appears to be growing into a power hitter’s body. Can’t wait for them to start taking the unpolish big arms (I’m serious).
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I wonder if the Klassen success has shaped their draft strategy. Instead of drafting the elite arms with elite production early, take an elite arm with mediocre production and put him in the pitching lab which has become elite at polishing pitchers.
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When competing against 17 and 18 year old teenage athletes, he will shine. I have seen enough and coached some where an almost two year difference in teenagers is huge. There is a reason in youth sports why there are two-year level distinctions. Nori will shine as the older guy. I think he will do well in rookie ball and CLW….but could struggle at JS and Reading…..IMO odds are against him. I am sure he has heard all those negative forecasts, maybe he will prove them wrong. I also like Burkeholder more….can get bigger and stronger without sacrificing speed.
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Was hoping for a College arm or College bat or maybe even a younger prep player. I think I saw a study many years ago when Blake Rutherford was being considered as a 1:1 that you steer clear of older HS Bats in the high 1st round but maybe 27th is a good spot to take a chance on someone with his tools.
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DMAR…agree…Blake Rutherford was the one I thought of also….Yankees and Brian Barber’s involvement in their scouting at the time, took him from Mickey Moniak’s area of SoCal. It has been proven many times age is a key determinant in a players overall progression and outcome.
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What I do like about this current management team is that their view is, from what I can tell, “we are going to take the kid we think is going to be the best major league player.” If you know what you’re doing, after you get past the first 10 picks or so, that player is likely to be a high school player. And when you get to the middle and back of the first round, the best values are almost always hs players. The Dodgers and Braves (and even the Yankees) have cleaned up on those below-the-radar type guys over the years.
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Agree with the opinion that the FO has earned the benefit of the doubt at this point but I can’t say I love the pick of Nori. The last time they took an overaged HS OF from a northern school because he was a terrific athlete it didn’t work out very well.
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Refresh our recollection – who are you talking about?
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I’ll guess Anthony Hewitt
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Yep, Hewitt was picked as a 19 yo HS OF from CT. They tried to move him to the IF but he never hit.
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Nori has a very different profile than Hewitt had. From day 1 there were doubts about Hewitt’s hit tool. All reports that I have read on Nori is the opposite. He has a short, compact and explosive swing. Lots of line drives. He only struck out 3 times in 94 PAs this year at the club level (which is 18u). That’s elite contact ability.
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Agree that the biggest issue with Hewitt when drafted were related to his rawness as a hitter and pitch recognition/plate discipline questions.
Nori’s pitch recognition skills seem to be much better so that’s the good news.
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Again…this year (18u) he was 19 years old hitting against pitchers 17 and 18…..hope he proves me wrong when he gets to what is left of the FCL this year.
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I thought you might be talking about him. The one nice thing about the current group who does the drafting and development is that they are focused on both athleticism AND baseball-specific skills (they raved about Nori’s hit tool and plate discipline – I do love hearing about that). Hewitt was just a toolshed player with almost no demonstrated history of success against better pitching. And, surprise, surprise, he couldn’t hit good pitching in professional ball, nor could so many of our historic “toolshed” players (Golson, Jeff Jackson, Collier, Gose, . . . the list goes on and on and on).
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Ah…. Anthony Hewitt. Thanks for the trip down Amnesia Lane. Maybe find a way to work Larry Greene into the conversation to make us feel even worse!
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Two more outfielders yay… Sorry I can’t be excited knowing how desperate our system is needing pitchers and again Barber using our top picks on hitters.. Ethan Wilson and Jordan Viars in 21.. Crawford and Rincones ( Rincones I love and think has the best chance to be a really good ball player) and our over slot signing Boyd in 22.. Miller, Saltiban, Walton, Ware, AOA last year.. The man is obsessed..
I am firmly of the Braves way of drafting you can never have enough good pitchers.. Who again landed the best prep LHP and another top 100 LHP later ho hum.. Good hitters always hit the open market top pitchers not so much..
Just looking at the system and Painter is injured TJ.. Abel still hasn’t figured it out yet.. McGarry is now a RP.. McGowan came back from TJ but still has injury problems.. Pan just got back from injury.. McFarlane wont be back for another year.. Klassen and that Italian kid are the only ones showing anything.. Its not pretty.. Theres not even relief prospects to be excited about in high minors.. I really thought they should be stocking up pitchers this draft..
So while I will root for these kids and go to their games I just don’t get it..
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Okay, I’m going to stop this train before it rolls too far.
First of all, why do you have a problem with this team drafting outfielders? That is the their biggest deficiency on the major league level, so we could use some good hitting outfielders in the systems.
And, does drafting all of these centerfielders mean Crawford is more vulnerable to a trade? Maybe. To me, he’s their best tradeable asset because I don’t see him having star potential – so use him to get something you need. That’s fine by me.
Also, you just don’t draft for need in the big league draft. Pretty much ever. You take the best player available at the draft slot. You almost always do better if you do that. I guess if it’s a tie you draft for need, but other than that, take the best player.
Finally, if there’s one thing this organization knows how to do now, it’s draft and coach up pitchers, including raw arms. They value pitching talent, so if they aren’t draft pitchers right now, I wouldn’t sweat it too much – it probably only means they are paying attention to their draft board. At some point, probably soon, they will take their share of pitchers. I wouldn’t worry about that.
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So now we draft for need?…….” this team drafting outfielders? That is the their biggest deficiency”
I believe it was the sentiment on the site…draft best available….maybe I read it wrong all along.
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No, I think we agree. My guess is the draft board was deep with outfielders. If so, that’s who they should draft.
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Well we will have to see if Nori can hit. Assume first test will be FCL pitching once signed. I actually am more excited with the Burkeholder’s selection.
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Me too. You know Mike Schmidt, Scott Rolen, Jimmy Rollins, Randy Wolf, Lou Williams, Maurice Cheeks, World B. Free Brian Dawkins, LeSean McCoy, DeSean Jackson, Jalen Hurts and Landon Dickerson (and unnamed others I’m sure) have in common? They were all second round draft picks – so I share your enthusiasm for our second round guy.
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Joey, I’m with you. Teams can never have enough pitching. I was so happy when Brecht fell to us and then we picked another outfielder. Hope he’s not another Greg Golson. Does this mean they will be trading Crawford for a rental? Ugh…
There were also 3 highly rated catchers on the board at 27. I could understand pulling the trigger on one of them too.
We have to hope the scouts are right and this kid can play. We’ll all be pulling for him but also keeping an eye on the others that “got away”.
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It would be nice if Dante Nori turned out to be like Lenny Dykstra (but not as crazy). They are both CFers, bat and throw left, and are short and well built.
I want to toss a shout out to V1 for doing a stellar job with the draft in a pinch for Hinkie. No matter where his is, may the good Lord be looking out for him.
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Hinkie was much better at draft coverage than me.
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I miss the guy and hope he is alright. He was all over the draft and also all over secondary talent throughout the majors. I’m pretty sure it was Hinkie who sung the praises of Alvarardo and Strahm before we ever really knew who they were. And he knew all of these draft prospects to an insane degree – it was very impressive.
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3 straight OFers???
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Spikerman is a SS, isn’t he?
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Check that ….you are correct ..OFer.
https://www.thebaseballcube.com/content/player/240407/#google_vignette
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played SS in HS, scouting report says teams plan to move him back to middle infield
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/john-spikerman-701811
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Possibly 4, depending how they see the kid from VT.
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Skeet….I need Love Potion No. 9 to fall in love with this draft. In a few years we will know how it all turns out.
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yeah, I know, seems like a bonesetters dream come true thus far. Guys have really been dinged up. See how it plays out.
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Rd. 4
chris demartini
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/carson-demartini-701831
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carson
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Last year they got a stud pitcher in the 6th round. Relax. These guys know what they are doing.
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Agreed.
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Withhold judgment.
In 2014, the Phillies had the most stupid ass draft strategy designed to save Ruben Amaro’s job. Because they needed to get young players to the majors quickly, they basically drafted no HS players in the entire draft. It was so stupid and foolish (as if you can draft in the MLB to turn a team around even with college players in a year or two). However, they hit on two really good college players – Aaron Nola and Rhys Hoskins and, even in a very poorly conceived draft, it turned out very well. It’s just so hard to tell when the draft is complete whether it will be a good or bad draft. And I also recall when the Phillies took Andrew Painter, the year after they took Mick Abel and there were some complaints here to the effect of “why do we always have to take these high school arms – those guys never pan out?” Well, it’s likely a good thing they just took the best guy in Painter and ignored the noise (really, to them, there was no noise – it’s not like the NFL or the NBA – they just do their thing).
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I just want everyone to breathe a sigh of relief – the Phillies did indeed take Joel Dragoo. Phew – I thought he was going to be taken by Cincinnati.
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In case you don’t know anything about him, after not very impressive freshman and sophomore campaigns, Joel “the big” Dragoo (Laverne & Shirley reference) went berserk his junior year for powerhouse Presbyterian College, hitting 18 homers and sporting a .765 slugger percentage while batting .395. In the immortal words of Harry Kalas, “Joel Dragoo, you are the man!”
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Wasn’t he the Russian boxer in Rocky III?
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Unless I missed it, he isn’t on the MLB top 250. Is he a sleeper?
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I don’t know – I was just joking around – but he really did have a fantastic breakout junior year.
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Schwarber-Nori Connection:
https://www.mlb.com/news/dante-nori-kyle-schwarber-phillies-connection
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Why
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Fifth round picks have been the charm for the Phillies of late….maybe this Hoosier will keep it going.
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/carter-mathison-701296
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Romus. You do know there is currently a former Hoosier on the Phillies. LOL
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Wonder if Phillies will select Ben Davis’ kid out of Malvern…Tague.
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/draft/tague-davis-805538
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10tg round pick is a senior and I get the feeling a few other picks will be below slot. So maybe we take a few big swings at HS studs in round 11-14. Here are some highly rated kids still available.
https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/2024/undrafted
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V1 …….. thanks for the effort that you have put into the draft, appreciate it.
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Th guy I liked back in January was LHP/OFer Noah Franco from IMG Academy…..not sure how committed he is with his college offer from TCU…maybe the money will look better.
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Romus. I see IU had 4 guys taken in the first 5 rounds. They had a good team but not outstanding. Believe they were like 3rd in Big10 although now there will be like 18 teams in it. So maybe a misnomer. Pitching was decent but defense hurt them in many games. I have a question for you or anyone. I just glanced down the first 10 rounds earlier. I did not see any JC kids. I was thinking they could be drafted each year. Maybe I am totally wrong on that or simply missed some. I basically was looking at the schools they were from. Thanks to anyone with info on that. I am no draft expert by a long shot.
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Don…I found one JC guy, LHP Cade Crossland…maybe more just not sure.
https://wcathletics.com/sports/bsb/2023-24/bios/crossland_cade_7c4s
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Romus. That is good if I only missed one. Can they be drafted each year? I thought my coaching buddy nephew might get drafted. Keaton Mahan. He went to Ohio State out of high school here but left at semester and ended up at Wabash Valley JC. I was told by a high school coach I know he had a great year there this Spring. He has been there 2 years now, so I think he has to go somewhere else. They were JC runner up a year ago but did not have the pitching this year. I thought the other night when they were talking the Dodger pitcher, he was not drafted high school, JC years and then first two at East Tennessee. Drafted in year 6 thanks to Covid extra year.
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Yes……normally every year there is one or more who qualify for the Rule 4 draft. He may be the only this year. Normally they are a year or two younger than the normal first time eligible (three years in college) 21-year old college guy. BTW…Harper went JC way and got drafted earlier also…age 17, may have been the youngest ever drafted in the current draft era…post 1965. of course, Joe Nuxhall and Jimmie Foxx signed as teenagers well before the draft was instituted.
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Romus. Hinkie thought Keaton might get drafted two years ago out of high school. He was considered the number one outfielder in Indiana. He did not. I do not know if going to OSU affects being eligible or not at this time. He is only two years removed from high school.
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The guy I wanted was Ethan Schiefelbein, who the Tigers selected with the 72nd pick. Really, really impressive pitcher. Shut down Bryce Rainer’s Harvard-Westlake team in the CIF final. Speaking of Rainer, he was the most impressive HS player I’ve ever seen play — 110+ EVs (see: https://x.com/USABEvents/status/1781401235800657994) and 96 on the mound — and with my boys playing high school baseball over the past nearly a decade, I’ve seen in high school Jack Flaherty, Royce Lewis, Hunter Greene, Pete Crow-Armstrong, Jared Jones, etc., etc. My older kid played against Skenes’ team, but Skenes was a catcher back then and I don’t remember anything about him in high school.
As far as the Phils’ draft goes, I’ve never seen Dante Nori or any of their other picks play, so I have absolutely no idea if the picks are good or not!
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Still no hinkie? Not that I know, but i saw a poster on MLBTR, black aces uses the same avatar photo (looked the same to me), thought it might him not to long ago. Either way, hope he is well, along with the rest of ya.
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Their 10th, 11th and 12th round picks were Seniors or Grad Students. So those are min contract guys. There has to be a person they are targeting. Not sure what they are waiting for.
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Looks like we got our run on pitchers, but no overpaid High Schooler.
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Touché ….12 of the last 13 picks pitchers….rd 8 thru 20. Grow the arms ……
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I don’t recall ever seeing Day 3 being all college pitchers. Must be intentional.
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Finally….Commissioner talking about baseball getting into the real world of professional team drafting…teams ability to trade draft picks. Builds more excitement and interest.
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Romus ……. do you think that addition to the rules will change /stimulate trading or just be treated as an afterthought by the GM’s. Will it increase the likelihood that scouting departments will do a more thorough scouting job with another avenue to gain a draft pick via trade?
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Skeet…will not happen until after 2026…..it is a CBA item… required for MLBPA to agree upon with the owners. I think it will stimulate some activity….as long as it includes the top ten rounds and not the bottom ten rounds….AND also the slot money to go along with it. And I do not see any change in the scouting.
If you want to see change in how scouts view and evaluate position player prospects……have MLB go into a financial partnership with the NCAA (Div-1) schools and have a shared agreement with baseball bat manufacturers and have D-1 schools use wooden bats ilo of metal/graphite bats. You would think the Commissioner and all his ideas would come up with something like that. It is not like MLB does not have the revenue to foot some percentage of that bill.
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Romus. I like your wooden bat idea. Usually, kids play in one or two wooden bat tournaments during the summer. Kids like using the wooden bats. I am not big on these fiber bats knowing they fall apart after so much use. Like I said earlier they are mostly in the $500 range. I am sure the wooden bats are super expensive, but MLB has lots of money. Good idea.
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Romus. I just went through rounds 11-20. Phillies like Indiana kids. Took an Indiana State kid in the 14th round. May alma mater Ball State had one kid selected. Quick quiz. What do the colleges Navarro and Weatherford have in common regarding the draft today? Also, I found one Eastern Oklahoma JC kid drafted 596 by the Tigers.
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So there were more JC kids taken…..they will find them everywhere, and yeah-the Hoosier state was a hot spot today for the Fightins’…..Navarro/Weatherford?….no clue what they have in common.
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Yes. I specifically looked for JC kids. I did not earlier. Another thing that surprised me is the overwhelming difference of college to high school picks. I am not a big draft person like many of you who are experts. Hinkie was great on the draft and like v1 I miss him.
Phillies probably remember Tommy Underwood. LOL Sure, he was a high school pick. Year younger than me.
So, as I went through the list of players drafted and their school, I jotted down about 8 to 10 colleges I have never heard of. Navarro and Weatherford have in common that they each had 2 players drafted today. That is unbelievable to me. But then I see these guys from nowhere playing in MLB games.
Finally, you get a chance to see Skenes in about an hour. The thing I like about both Skenes and Miller is to me they both have easy pitch deliveries. With all the injuries I think that is important. Sometimes you can almost predict an injury coming with some guy’s deliveries.
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I can see it having some attraction if it is the top 10 w/money, especially if you have been lusting over a player. Might make you want to trade some assets away, but not go overboard. After all, they are HS’s and college grads who still have miles too go before they settle in.
The only other thing I always hate about baseball is someone (mlbpa or ownership) has to hold the other side hostage even over things that make perfectly good sense.
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I trust this Phillies FO and Scouting Department. They have done a very good job rebuilding this farm system. That said, I really find it hard to get excited about this draft. Today we took 10 college pitchers and not one lottery ticket high schooler? Many reports are that we reached in the first round. Scouts seem to like our second round. But after that, nothing to get excited about. Hope that I am wrong. I just don’t see it.
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Comparing this draft to past drafts and I know you need to wait years to get a true evaluation. Do you have any feel at all about how good this one will measure up?
Doesn’t sound like you are all that keen on it! Is it that you don’t share the braintrust’s opinions on the talent, maybe it’s an off year?
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Sure – you have to play the “hand you are dealt”. The Phillies aren’t going to be able to draft in the top half if they are doing well, and maybe all the rest of the evaluators are wrong and the Phillies staff are right about some of the players, but one would hope that they could at least draft some tough signees and try to make them an offer they can’t refuse…. Although it has been pointed out that a star player at any position is a good draft pick, – and I may just be echoing V1 here – if you are picking in a position where the acclaimed top players are gone, despite the credibility of the Phils front office, I would have been happier them taking their shot at a more demanding position than outfield. OK, I got my gripe out of my system!
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Two IDFA signings
https://x.com/Matt_Winkelman/status/1813361239105667227?t=VUQ6Gf56tQRIXAzUqngMIA&s=19
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One more: https://x.com/Matt_Winkelman/status/1813380363017761091
Tello and Davis are local — to me! 😉 — and I actually saw Davis play in high school. Davis was a huge prospect in high school — Perfect Game ranked him as the 13th best player in the nation in the high school class of 2022 (https://www.perfectgame.org/Players/Playerprofile.aspx?ID=481521). Not saying PG rankings are super accurate, but, wow, that’s a high ranking for someone who became a UDFA.
Tello played two years at Pasadena City College before transferring to Iowa two years ago. He can hit, but not a ton of power.
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not a single starting pitcher drafted.. to not even take a few shots on SP’s hoping one of them busts out or becomes a bottom of the rotation pitcher is malpractice.. like I said after day 1 I just don’t get it. Just more outfielders.
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I’m closing this thread. New draft discussion at –
2024 Draft, Day Three and Beyond: July 16 | Phuture Phillies
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