44 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/16/2016”

1. Medina pitched in the All-star game last night. The reports were glowing:

   https://twitter.com/hudsonbelinsky/status/765725519740542976

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   1. https://twitter.com/alecdopp/status/765725448907161600

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      1. Hadn’t see velo reports that high on him. Maybe because he wad only going one inning?

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         1. Tom- Probably correct, he let it go for the one inning with the adrenaline going on for him…22 pitches..15 strikes is also a plus ratio with the 3 ks..

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            1. agreed, one inning is not the same as his velo in the 7th inning. however, he just turned 19 and is listed at 6’1″ 185 pounds, so got to believe there is some physical projection still left.

               that said, his FB looks to be Plus and if his slider is truly Plus-Plus, then he is a legitimate elite pitching prospect.

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               1. Agree. in the video, that was a pretty darn good slider.

                  Very excited for our young pitching – Medina, Sanchez, Llovera, Gowdy. I’m sure I’m missing some high end/low minors arms here.

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               2. Phillies really could use the Latin Bebe Aces…Kilome, Medina, Sanchez, Pinto and Elniery Garcia to flourish as starters these next few years. All have the tools.

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   2. https://twitter.com/hudsonbelinsky/status/765738099938844673

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      1. This was in reply to a question about why Medina has low K rate and such good stuff.

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   3. Wow

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      1. Meant to say. Wow the slider looks awesome.

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2. Numata has hit in 13 straight games and 15 of his last 16. He’s never been much of a HR threat but he can pile up the doubles. Defensively, he has 6 errors and 14 PBs but he’s thrown out 43% of would be basestealers. There’s a little something there for everyone.

   I don’t know what to make of Tromp. I was all but calling for him to be released at the beginning of the year. He’s having a very good season though. Is this the season the light bulb went off and everything became clear? Maybe. His splits show two different guys between A and A+ but both are successful. He hit righties pretty well in A-ball (.291/.355/.522/.877 versus .220/.273/.458/.730 against lefties). In A+, those stats have flipped. He hits righties at a .226/.278/.425/.703 clip, while hitting lefties .306/.345/.531/.876. He has 49 ABs against lefties and 106 against righties in A+. By the way, he hits from the right side. So which is it? Can he hit lefties and righties equally well or will be eventually regress to the mean and not hit either very well. Inquiring minds want to know. At the very least, he has some pop in that bat with 17 HRs so far this year. He could hit 20 on the full season. He appears to be an excellent fielder with a strong arm. He has 7 OF assists this year and had 10 last year. He only has 1 error this year and 2 all of last year. He can steal a base and doesn’t get caught that often. In the last 3 years, he’s stolen an accumulative 42 bases while getting caught 14 times. He’s still 22 y/o so they can afford to take a wait-and- see approach with him.

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   1. I felt the same way about him and Walding, but both took big steps forward this year. The coaches who see these guys every day, so they know who still has potential and who doesn’t.

      I thought they should have kept Hiciano, but I’m sure these two had a better shot than him, and now it shows.

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   2. He is definitely intriguing. Maybe part of a trade package? Obviously not the center piece but a lottery prospect.

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   3. Tromp has some decent tools, but has always pretty raw. Like a lot of young hitters, he’s had issues with plate discipline, pitch recognition, and contact. He’s taken a step or two forward in 2016, but I would say still falls into the “extreme” risk category.

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      1. Tromp at 22 yo with 1400+ is not a “young hitter” anymore. He maybe a “late bloomer” but the leash is now short as the remaining projection is becoming less (thus NOT fall into risk category like the teenagers in the farm). Not even sure if Tromp has plus tools.

         If Tromp is still having issues with plate discipline, pitch recognition and contact at age 22 with 1400++ — Phils has no issues to move on as Tromp is starting to create a profile of an Org filler.

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         1. Read Bellman’s post above. Tromp has some tools, including obvious power. His issues have always been lack of consistent contact and way too much swing and miss. But given the strides he has made in 2016, there really is no good reason to give up on him just yet. And it’s not like he’s blocking anyone from being promoted right now.

            All that said, I think everyone would agree that Tromp’s chances of “making it” are pretty remote.

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            1. nonetheless, as 22 yo playing at least 5 years – if the tools cannot translate to results with no to little projection left, then, Tromp is not a keeper especially is Johnny A continue his draft strategy (focusing on hitters that can control the strike zone and with good hit tool).

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               1. I’ll say this about Tromp, saw him play at Lakewood (I believe last year but could have been 2014) . . . I didn’t know much about him but he def stuck out (in a good way). However thats what kids with raw tools do . . . at times they flash their potential. Reading should continue to have power bats next year in Tromp, Martin, Green and Campbell.

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   4. He was my break out guy last yr he also has plus speed.

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3. The only 2 guys to play in the NYP All Star game from Wmsprt were Alastre and Medina, a pair of 19 y/Os? Alastre went 2 for 2 with a SB. Medina gave up 2 hits and a run with 3 Ks in his 1 inning. I was just surprised that a few other guys didn’t make the team or maybe they did and weren’t inserted into the game.

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   1. Ranger Suarez also made the team, but didn’t make it into the game because he had pitched two days earlier. There aren’t a ton of guys who you can make a case they should have in the game.

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4. Are we really gonna have to sweat Reading even making the playoffs? Damn.

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   1. Top two make it, so even if Trenton overtakes then Hartford would have to come from 10.5 back.

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      1. And Hartford has to play on the road every single game. Their ballpark is in total disarray. Wrong contractor used. Ran out of money. Had to hire a new contractor. What a freakin ‘ nightmare.

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5. clearwater faced the Yanks recent acquisition Justus Sheffield in game 2 (6ip, 3h, 3k, 1bb)

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6. Phillies will not likely promote many players until after the AAA playoffs are over for Leigh High (assuming they make it). So I would not expect Sept 1 promotions for Knapp, Williams, Crawford and so on. Back up players could be promoted or former major leaguers such as Asche and Ruf. I am surprised that Marlins or another team does not try to trade for Ruf

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7. Kilome, Medina and Sixto might highlight an impressive rotation at CBP in ’19/’20.

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   1. If I could make a deal where only 1 of them reaches their ceiling, and the other 2 never make it, i would do that deal right now. because all three have top of the rotation ceilings IMO.

      2 of them making it would be greedy and all three would be downright silly. but not unprecedented (see the Mets).

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      1. Can’t have enough pitching….ever….

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      2. The Mets clearly won their trades when they received Syndergaard and Wheeler. Then in recent years, Harvey, DeGrom, Matz have worked out. On the other hand, Parnell, Gee, Niese have not.

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8. C hitting .372 in last 11 games….. NICE

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9. I was looking at the stats for the Phillies young starting pitchers and noted some interesting stats. The following pitchers stats were compiled: Jeremy Hellickson, Aaron Nola, Adam Morgan, Jerad Eickhoff, Vincent Velasquez, Zack Eflin, & Jake Thompson. The stats for Adam Morgan, Zack Eflin, & Jake Thompson, include their AAA stats.
   All seven pitchers faced roughly 500 batters and threw roughly 2000 pitches for the year.
   In many ways they have posted very similar numbers. All are good at throwing strikes and limiting walks. Six of the seven are around 2.0 bb/9. As to k/9 the highest is Vincent Velasquez, at 10.4 next is Aaron Nola at 9.8 and the Adam Morgan, at 8.1. Jake Thompson, is at 6.4 k/9 while Zack Eflin, is at 5.9. Six of the seven pitchers have k/bb over 3.1 except Jake Thompson, at 2.7
   The amount of strikes looking they get is similar at 25 to 28 percent except for Aaron Nola who has a rate of 36 percent.
   Swing and miss strike rates are also very similar with around 21 to 25percent. The highest is Adam Morgan, with a 25 percent. The lowest is Zack Eflin, at 14 percent.
   As to pitch to contact, none is truly a pitch to contact pitcher since none have posted rates for BIP+ HR strikes of over 50 percent. Most are around 44-45 percent except for Vincent Velasquez, and Adam Morgan.
   Six of the seven tend to be ground ball pitcher posting rater of approximately 38 to 44 percent except for Aaron Nola who posted a ridiculous rate of 57 percent.
   In my next post, I will submit the raw numbers.

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   1. Wouldn’t pitch-to-contact lend itself to a higher GB%…contact made as the balls is in its downward trajectory?….Eflin has admitted to this and Thompson has also, since he joined the Phillies org. And Nola I only assume would be, since he has no power game in his 4Smr.
      As for the two..Velasquez and Morgan they are not adhering to that philosophy.

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10. First Name_____________ Jeremy _ Aaron _ Adam _ Jerad _ Vincent _ Zack _ Jake
    Last Name_____________ Hellickson _ Nola _ Morgan _ Eickhoff _ Velasquez _ Eflin _ Thompson
    PHILADELPHIA__________ Jeremy Hellickson _ Aaron Nola _ Adam Morgan _ Jerad Eickhoff _ Vincent Velasquez _ Zack Eflin _ Jake Thompson

    W-L __________________ 9-7 _ 6-9 _ 7-8 _ 8-12 _ 8-5 _ 8-7 _ 12-5
    PQS (W-L)_____________ 12-4 _ 12-5 _ 9-7 _ 12-3 _ 11-6 _ 10-4 _ 14-3
    Innings Pitched _________ 143.0 _ 111.0 _ 119.7 _ 143.7 _ 113.0 _ 131.7 _ 142.7
    ERA _________________ 3.65 _ 4.78 _ 5.11 _ 3.82 _ 4.14 _ 4.17 _ 2.78
    WHIP ________________ 1.14 _ 1.31 _ 1.38 _ 1.23 _ 1.35 _ 1.09 _ 1.10
    Hits _________________ 131 _ 116 _ 138 _ 144 _ 111 _ 116 _ 119
    Runs ________________ 64 _ 68 _ 74 _ 66 _ 55 _ 66 _ 53
    Earned Runs ___________ 58 _ 59 _ 68 _ 61 _ 52 _ 61 _ 44
    BB __________________ 32 _ 29 _ 27 _ 33 _ 42 _ 28 _ 38
    SO __________________ 119 _ 121 _ 108 _ 120 _ 130 _ 86 _ 102
    HR __________________ 20 _ 10 _ 20 _ 19 _ 17 _ 14 _ 12
    HBP __________________ 4 _ 6 _ 5 _ 7 _ 1 _ 4 _ 7

    H/9 __________________ 8.2 _ 9.4 _ 10.4 _ 9.0 _ 8.8 _ 7.9 _ 7.5
    BB/9 _________________ 2.0 _ 2.4 _ 2.0 _ 2.1 _ 3.3 _ 1.9 _ 2.4
    K/9__________________ 7.5 _ 9.8 _ 8.1 _ 7.5 _ 10.4 _ 5.9 _ 6.4
    HR/9 _________________ 1.3 _ .8 _ 1.5 _ 1.2 _ 1.4 _ 1.0 _ .8
    K/BB _________________ 3.7 _ 4.2 _ 4.0 _ 3.6 _ 3.1 _ 3.1 _ 2.7

    Ave Game Score ________ 54.2 _ 50.4 _ 47.2 _ 52.7 _ 52.4 _ 52.5 _ 62.3
    Ave Game Score 2.0 _____ 54.1 _ 51.7 _ 46.7 _ 53.2 _ 51.2 _ 53.9 _ 58.0
    Ave Positive Quality Start _ 3.3 _ 3.3 _ 2.8 _ 3.3 _ 2.8 _ 3.1 _ 3.6

    AB __________________ 539 _ 439 _ 479 _ 547 _ 424 _ 495 _ 522
    1B __________________ 108 _ 99 _ 112 _ 119 _ 92 _ 97 _ 103
    2B __________________ 34 _ 20 _ 35 _ 34 _ 20 _ 29 _ 26
    3B __________________ 3 _ 4 _ 3 _ 5 _ 1 _ 4 _ 3
    HR __________________ 20 _ 10 _ 20 _ 19 _ 17 _ 14 _ 12
    Total Bases ____________ 265 _ 191 _ 271 _ 278 _ 203 _ 223 _ 212

    BA __________________ .243 _ .264 _ .288 _ .263 _ .262 _ .234 _ .228
    OBP _________________ .288 _ .316 _ .329 _ .308 _ .328 _ .277 _ .288
    SLG _________________ .492 _ .435 _ .566 _ .508 _ .479 _ .451 _ .406
    OPS _________________ .780 _ .751 _ .895 _ .816 _ .807 _ .728 _ .694

    BABIP ________________ .278 _ .344 _ .336 _ .306 _ .339 _ .258 _ .262

    Int’l BB _______________ 0 _ 3 _ 3 _ 1 _ 1 _ 1 _ 1
    GDP __________________ 14 _ 5 _ 9 _ 12 _ 12 _ 10 _ 25
    SF ___________________ 4 _ 4 _ 5 _ 10 _ 2 _ 7 _ 3
    SB ___________________ 7 _ 5 _ 4 _ 8 _ 2 _ 11 _ 3
    CS ___________________ 3 _ 1 _ 4 _ 3 _ 4 _ 5 _ 3
    Picked Off _____________ 0 _ 1 _ 1 _ 1 _ 0 _ 0 _ 0

    Batters Faced __________ 582 _ 483 _ 520 _ 602 _ 476 _ 535 _ 574

    Pitches ________________ 2208 _ 1796 _ 1906 _ 2260 _ 1912 _ 2021 _ 2177
    Balls __________________ 1405 _ 1188 _ 1253 _ 1436 _ 1221 _ 1298 _ 1361
    Strikes ________________ 1057 _ 760 _ 937 _ 1039 _ 890 _ 959 _ 1002
    Strikes % ______________ 64 % _ 66 % _ 66 % _ 64 % _ 64 % _ 64 % _ 63 %
    Pitches/Inning __________ 15.4 _ 16.2 _ 15.9 _ 15.7 _ 16.9 _ 15.3 _ 15.3

    Strikes Looking __________ 348 _ 428 _ 316 _ 397 _ 331 _ 339 _ 359
    Strikes Swing & Miss ______ 249 _ 172 _ 237 _ 215 _ 216 _ 137 _ 209
    Strikes Fouled Off ________ 361 _ 251 _ 385 _ 363 _ 354 _ 394 _ 356
    Strikes BIP + HR _________ 447 _ 337 _ 315 _ 461 _ 320 _ 428 _ 437

    25 % _ 36 % _ 25 % _ 28 % _ 27 % _ 26 % _ 26 %

    Strike Swing & Miss % ____ 24 % _ 23 % _ 25 % _ 21 % _ 24 % _ 14 % _ 21 %
    Strikes Fouled Off % ______ 34 % _ 33 % _ 41 % _ 35 % _ 40 % _ 41 % _ 36 %
    Strikes BIP + HR % ______ 42 % _ 44 % _ 34 % _ 44 % _ 36 % _ 45 % _ 44 %

    Ground Balls ___________ 183 _ 188 _ 109 _ 196 _ 116 _ 172 _ 200
    Fly Balls ______________ 244 _ 139 _ 186 _ 246 _ 187 _ 242 _ 225
    GB/FB Ratio ___________ .75 _ 1.35 _ .59 _ .80 _ .62 _ .71 _ .89
    GB/FB % ______________ 43 % _ 57 % _ 37 % _ 44 % _ 38 % _ 42 % _ 47 %

    Total Outs _____________ 429 _ 333 _ 359 _ 431 _ 339 _ 395 _ 428
    BIP Outs ______________ 293 _ 205 _ 237 _ 295 _ 193 _ 294 _ 298
    Fly Balls – LD ___________ 112 _ 58 _ 95 _ 128 _ 99 _ 143 _ 142
    Line Drives _____________ 132 _ 81 _ 91 _ 118 _ 88 _ 99 _ 83
    Pop Ups ______________ 39 _ 12 _ 20 _ 35 _ 26 _ 29 _ 27

    Ground Balls ___________ 183 _ 188 _ 109 _ 196 _ 116 _ 172 _ 200
    Fly Balls ______________ 112 _ 58 _ 95 _ 128 _ 99 _ 143 _ 142
    Line Drives ____________ 132 _ 81 _ 91 _ 118 _ 88 _ 99 _ 83
    Balls In Play ___________ 427 _ 327 _ 295 _ 442 _ 303 _ 414 _ 425

    Ground Balls % __________ 43 % _ 57 % _ 37 % _ 44 % _ 38 % _ 38 % _ 38 %
    Fly Balls % _____________ 26 % _ 18 % _ 32 % _ 29 % _ 33 % _ 33 % _ 33 %
    Line Drives % ___________ 31 % _ 25 % _ 31 % _ 27 % _ 29 % _ 29 % _ 29 %

    PQS Domination (W)______ 12 _ 12 _ 9 _ 12 _ 11 _ 10 _ 14
    PQS Disaster (L)_________ 4 _ 5 _ 7 _ 3 _ 6 _ 4 _ 3
    PQS (W-L)_____________ 12-4 _ 12-5 _ 9-7 _ 12-3 _ 11-6 _ 10-4 _ 14-3

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11. Holy numbers crunch , I like to see Leibrandt, Kilome , pitching well . Cozens with his 34 on a good pitcher.

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12. Frank Herrmann bought by Phillies, Araujo optioned and a 40 man roster move has to be
    made.

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    1. Another fungible arm to go with the other dozen or so, MKl has acquired for the pen in the last 10 months.
       I assume he will not be a 40 guy after October.
       With two more vs the LADs and Cardinals coming in , then the road games coming up soon, Phillies have a good chance at the 7th or 8th pick in June by the end of the month..

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       1. Well I hope he doesn’t walk 2 runs with the bases loaded. They tryed everyone Garcia etc arms great arms that can’t throw A stike when needed.

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       2. The next 5 era’s of the pitcher’s there going against. 4.44,4.07,4.72,4.50,4.78. There a better then avg chance if they win tonight and Rockies , WHT Sox loses they move up too 13th in the draft. There’s 8 teams in the mix .

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13. Nola UCL sprain and strain.

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14. Nola put on 60 day DL, so this allows space for Herrmann on the 40 man roster.

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15. Random ? but did anyone see the K of A. Gonzalez in the 2nd inning last night? The ball darted down and in (his arm side) almost like a change up but was clocked at 90MPH. I know he throws hard sitting 94-96 but a 90mph change up (not much separation from his FB)?

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16. BA chat

    Talking about Sixto Sanchez

    Ben Badler: One of the better pitching prospects in the GCL. Smaller sized RHP the Phillies signed relatively cheap when he was touching 92, now his fastball’s blown up and he’s regularly getting into the mid-90s and filling up the strike zone.

    Benjamin Chase (South Dakota): Dominican Summer League video and scouting is incredibly difficult to get ahold of. Who do you hear/know of that’s making noise down there other than stat lines?
    Ben Badler: It’s Jonathan Guzman’s 17th birthday today. He’s definitely a guy to watch. Super skinny kid the Phillies picked up for $60K last year but has quickly become one of their more exciting prospects. Projects to stick at shortstop, good hand-eye coordination with innate feel for the barrel, even if there isn’t much present strength to impact the ball at this point.

    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/baseball-america-prospects-chat-13/#5hrIfq2lQK2Lp82R.99

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