Seth Rosin Is Back

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Matt is originally from Mt. Holly, NJ, but after a 4 year side track to Cleveland for college he now resides in Madison, WI. His work has previously appeared on Phuture Phillies and The Good Phight. You can read his work at Phillies Minor Thoughts

24 thoughts on “Seth Rosin Is Back”

  2. Nice. Glad to see Seth Rosin back. It was a bone-headed move by the Phillies to leave him exposed in the first place over guys like Stutes, Horst and Collier, but the big league experience I’m sure has been beneficial. I think we’ll see him in the Phillies bullpen by the end of this year.

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    2. Not sure it is boneheaded since he is back. The Phillies are NOT using an option year for him this year. The equation on protecting a player depends on whether they would get selected and/or returned. Since he got returned the Phillies get his rights for an extra year, which is the best possible outcome. Obviously Stutes has little value now, but they did not know that when they had to decide whether to protect him.

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  4. Start printing those 2014 WS Champion Phillies t-shirts.

    Seriously though, nice to have another arm in the mix. I wonder if they’ll stretch him out and use him in the rotation.

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    1. With Hamels return approaching and Buchanan ready to go, they’ll shortly have have seven starters in line. I would leave him in the pen for now. He did well there at AA for San Fran in 2012, IIRC.

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      1. Yes Jayson is still there….they are not letting him go until after his scheduled bobble-head giveaway game in July.

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  6. The Phils love to carry extra weak hitting utility infielders. Last yr at one point they had Martinez, McDonald and Orr on roster at same time. I’m fine with Galvis cause every team needs 1 but I’d rather have Hernandez than Nix. I know the argument will be playing time but this bench is weak. It ‘s like last yr all over again

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    1. They’re talking about using Cesar on the left side of the IF at Reading, hoping he can be a more useful utility man. He needs to play, and Jayson Nix, while useless, is doing little harm if they never, ever, EVER let him play.

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      1. Yeah, of all the “play the kids” comments we read around here, what really mystifies me are the comments from people who want to see Hernandez and Rupp sit on the bench in Philadelphia rather than play in AAA. It’s understandable, if IMO misguided, for people to argue that they should have gone with Hernandez and Rupp instead of resigning Utley and Ruiz.* But once the decision was made to resign those guys, for those people who still hold out hope that Hernandez and Rupp could be major league regulars, you should WANT to see them playing every day in AAA.

        *Would it be churlish for me to point out that three of the older position regulars who the “tear it down” crowd wanted to see gone are all off to good starts – are, in fact, the team’s three best position players. Whatever other arguments that can be had regarding the team’s direction, can we at least agree that, if the tear it down crowd had its way, the team would be looking at 100 to 110 losses, instead of 80 to 90 losses? I mean, you can argue that that doesn’t matter, but please let’s not pretend that getting rid of the team’s few remaining good players doesn’t have consequences.

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        1. I think you exaggerate. It’s hard to lose 100-110 games. As we saw from last night’s attendance, the hit on attendance from continued mediocrity of 80-90 losses may be greater over the time than a hit bottom and rebuild more rapidly approach. I also think you greatly over-estimate the tear-down advocates eagerness to deal Utley. To say you would deal him at the deadline for a good return is not the same as simply dumping him. Yes Byrd and Ruiz are off to good starts. That was never my concern. I’ve written off 2014. My concern is the drag they are likely to be in the final year of their contracts. If the Phillies lose close to 90 games this year, I’m not going to be of the view that the team got its WAR worth on the contracts in year one. I freely admit that the off-season signings this year brought better players than the Youngs-Adams-Durbin-Lannan signings of the prior season. While one can say we got little help in the Pence/Victorino/Lee deals, one can also look at the start the farm is off to and say there isn’t a lot of help on the way. We do need an injection of young talent from other systems and we do need more primo draft picks, like we will have this year as well as a continuation of this year’s larger international bonus allocation. There just isn’t enough talent down on the farm for the rebuild solution to simply be waiting for it to mature.

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          1. There’s different versions of a tear down – I would say almost all of the tear down advocates called for trading Utley, and objected to his new contract. Almost all of them would trade Lee and would trade or not have resigned Ruiz. Some of them would trade Hamels. And of course the typical version of a tear down hates the other FA signings over the winter. Heck, a bunch of the tear it down crowd wanted to let Kendrick and Revere go.. I think so some extent you’re replacing your version of a tear down (which would most likely not lead to a 100 loss season, but might come close) with the more typical version.

            Let’s talk about scenarios. The most extreme version of a tear down – including Utley and Hamels – absolutely would result in a 110 loss team AS A FLOOR. A Phillies team composed of the few young players on the roster, plus players from the upper minors, and (presumably) some “scrap heap” players, would be historically bad. Quite possibly 120 loss bad.

            Now, if you keep Hamels and Utley, you’re not losing 110 games. But if Lee is gone, and Ruiz gone, and Byrd gone, and presumably Burnett and R. Hernandez gone, and maybe Kendrick gone – yes, that’s absolutely a 100 loss team, even with Utley and Hamels.

            I don’t think it registers with most people the extent to which the few players with any CURRENT value on this team are mostly the old guys. Now, even I am in favor of shopping some of the guys at the next trade deadline – not that we’ll get much for most of them. In fact, I’m not even sure if you and I are THAT far apart on what we would like to see the team do at the trade deadline. But I think you underestimate the extent to which the “tear it down” crowd would go much, much further. Roccom is not the outlier that you think he is.

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          2. And really allentown, I don’t think you’re a true tear down advocate at all – heck, you’re more reluctant to consider trading Hamels than I am. You suggest, ultimately, some judicious pruning. At this point, advocating that they replace Rollins with Galvis, and that they listen to offers for Lee, are hardly radical proposals. Heck, I think the front office would like to do the former, and probably will do the latter (listen, at least).

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            1. Well, I remain optimistic that Hamels, Brown, and Asche can be parts of our next winner. RAJ really needs to rebuild faster than he has been, however.

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  8. Doubleheader tonight in Allentown. Official word is that Rosin’s availability is unknown, but I imagine they’ll get him an inning out of the 14 scheduled for this evening. Looking forward to it.

    Quick Aumont Report: Didn’t put one in the other day. The 2.1 inning outing saw him getting ahead with the 92mph FB and mixing the splitter (? 86-89) and curve (79-82) for swing and miss. Allowed one of two inherited runners to score on soft liner to right which I believe came on the FB, if memory serves. Generally looked OK–certainly not dominant. Was getting the outside corner with that FB which helped him greatly.

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      1. You are correct. Brundage did say earlier that he thought Rosin would be available on an “emergency basis.”

        However, he has not officially been added to the roster as of 5PM (for the 5:35 start).

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