Good performances from Zach Collier and Brian Pointer. Just realized Freddy Galvis is batting .314 at Lehigh. Could he have a legitimate chance at replacing Rollins next year?
Reigning No.1 – OF – Domonic Brown (LHV-9/13/87) – (.248) 1 for 4 with a 2B and SB (10)
Current Mid-season Top 30
5. OF – Zach Collier (LWD-9/18/90) – (.248) – 2 for 4 with a 2B (22), run, 2 RBI (30), SB (30), BB, K
8. SS – Freddy Galvis (LHV-11/14/89) – (.314) –1 for 4 with a K
9. 3B – Maikel Franco (LWD-8/26/92) – (.123) – 0 for 4
15. RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (LWD-6/6/90) – (4-4, 2.83) 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K (win)
16. 3B – Harold Martinez (WIL-5/31/90) – (.250) – 0 for 3
18. C – Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.271) – 0 for 3 with a BB, K
19. OF – Brian Pointer (GCL-1/28/92) – (.277) – 2 for 5 with a HR (4), 2B (11), 2 RBI (21), K
22. 3B – Carlos Rivero (REA-5/20/88) –(.288) 1 for 4 with a run, BB, K
23. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85)– (.286) – 2 for 5 with a 2B (30), run, RBI (72), 3 K’s
25. OF – Kyrell Hudson (WIL-16/6/90) – (.278) – 0 for 4 with 2 K
26. OF – Aaron Altherr (WIL-1/14/91) – (.279) – 2 for 3 with a run, CS (4)
29. 2B– Cody Asche (WIL-6/20/90) – (.198) 1 for 3 with a K
30. OF – Derrick Mitchell (REA-1/5/87)- (.269) – 1 for 3 with an RBI (69), BB, 2 K
Other names of interest
1B – Cody Overbeck (LHV-6/5/86) – (.253) – 3 for 4
2B – Alejandro Villalobos (GCL/8/20/91) – (.263) 1 for 5 with a 2B (4)
SS – Edgar Duran (LWD-2/10/91) – (.237) 1 for 3
OF – Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.232) – 2 for 4 with 2 SB (34), K
RHP – JC Ramirez (REA-8/16/88) – (9-13, 4.83) – 5.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 2 K (win)
RHP – Lino Martinez (WIL-9/17/92) – (6-2, 2.79) – 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 4 K
Diekman continues to pitch well. He may pitch at CBP pretty soon. He is starting to look like more than a left handed specialist.
Alonso is getting hard to ignore. He hits for power too.
Bonilla and Martinez pitched well, as did Edell in the loss.
Yes, what’s up w/ that Blue Hen, Alonso? He’s hitting well, including a good patient approach at the plate. His power seems to be mainly doubles right now. Though he is doing this at age 23 in Low A, does he have a chance to exceed original expectations? How is his fielding?
Note his weight: for 5’8″ he must be built like a fireplug. His next move SHOULD be up to Clwtr in ’12. Lack of HR power so far is a concern. Don’t know about his glove. Though he is listed as a third baseman,l he has been playing 2nd base at Lkwd. Trying to imagine a fire plug there, seems like manueverability might be limited by that frame.
Another “curiosity” is this guy Astudillo who played in the Venezuela Lg who hit mid-300s and STRUCK OUT ONLY ONE TIME THE WHOLE SEASON!! He is also listed as a 3rd baseman. Hope he is in the GCL in ’12.
Double and homer for Pointer. That’s a really good game.
Nice game for Collier. Two hits and steals home- must’ve been exciting. Good start for Bonilla.
Galvis hits, Overbeck three hits.
Now the question is – what’s next for him in 2012, and this upcoming offseason? Can he play LF, 3B, and 1B well enough defensively to be a utility g/ pinch hitter in the bigs?
But Dobbs was a better prospect than Overbeck. He was a legitimate hitter who just could not find a position. Overbeck has better power than Dobbs, but, at least currently, that’s his only advantage. We should be very happy if Overbeck turns out to be a more powerful version of Dobbs.
If he (overbeck)can do this in 150 AB with slightly below avg D at 1b, 3b, of, I’d be happy- .240-8-20 with OBP over .300. I have a feeling he could be jack cust for a bad team, full time and in his prime years ie. .245-30-90. I think his value will come as a trade chip to a small market team
Cust was better at earlier ages. Some of the difference however is that he played in very good offensive parks out West. Overbeck probably has a little more defensive ability as well.
They are really not great comparisons. Dobbs is a little closer, though Overbeck is a lower average higher power player than Dobbs. Not sure he will make it for more than a cup of coffee, but he is at least in the picture to have his age 27-29 years be cost-effective seasons in a platoon role or on someone’s bench. That is probably what we are doing with Mayberry. I don’t buy the late development lines. We are now reaping the benefit of his age 27 year at a low cost. I am fine paying $500K for his production off the bench. When he hits 30 and starts to decline, however, it will be time to replace him rather than pay him Dobbs arbitration money.
Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like Cust spent an awful lot of time in the minor leagues. I am sure that Overbeck would hope that he wouldn’t spend 10 plus seasons playing in the minors.
I also bet Overbeck hopes to have 2,000 ABs in the majors, or to hit 105 HRs in the minors, or most importantly to make $2.8 million a season in the majors.
Fact is, it would be a pretty big upset for Overbeck to match Cust’s career at this point
I should have mentioned that I thought those numbers were his ceiling ie 245-30–90 .300 obp.
I think cust had a lot more development time in minors till he was like 27 i think. So if it’s not fair to compare brown to mayberry at this point (it isn’t fair) it may not be fair to judge overbeck for 2 more years in the minors. And then I believe it took a couple of years to reach those numbers we think of cust as having. So while it’s probably 5-10% chance he reaches that ceiling it’s still reachable.
Cust had a combined 144 at bats before his break through at age 28. Have you ever heard of the term late bloomer? apparently you are unfamiliar. Bet you wouldn’t have considered cust a AAAA player after his age 27 season? But you are an amazing prognosticator of past events answer333.
Brief trivia history on Jack : On December 13, 2007, he was named in the Mitchell Report as a user of performance-enhancing drugs. Cust however denied any wrong doing or use of performance-enhancing drugs and that there were inaccuracies in his citings in the report. Not sure if this damaged his reputation or not.
the cust stats mean nothing to overbeck. what cust did at a certain point doesnt translate to what overbect can become. to me its silly to use cust stats to down overbeck. some guys take longer to develop. i am not saying overbeck will be a stud but cant see how one is a refleciton of the other.
cust was out of HS while cody college so reaped the benefit of hitting each level earlier and lingered in minors for almost a decade. Cust took parts of 5 years to stick in the majors until age 28 so his earlier “better” numbers become less relevant for comparison sake. Still I’m very happy if he becomes jack cust
I think it’s awesome that us baseball nerds are on a site dedicated to Phillies minor league prospects and we’re in the middle of a Jack Cust/Cody Overbeck discussion/debate.
Its little discussions like this that make me happy I devote such an inordinate amount of my life to following all aspects of the Phillies organization…and baseball in general.
MAYBERRY AGAIN!!!! Start Believing Doubters!!!! Raul Ibanez of 2011 will be the Geoff Jenkins of 2008 and John Mayberry Jr of 2011 is the Jayson Werth of 2008.
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Good performances from Zach Collier and Brian Pointer. Just realized Freddy Galvis is batting .314 at Lehigh. Could he have a legitimate chance at replacing Rollins next year?
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With only 2 walks in 66 ABs and an ISO of .061, I suspect not.
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sample size, sample size, sample size…
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Reigning No.1 – OF – Domonic Brown (LHV-9/13/87) – (.248) 1 for 4 with a 2B and SB (10)
Current Mid-season Top 30
5. OF – Zach Collier (LWD-9/18/90) – (.248) – 2 for 4 with a 2B (22), run, 2 RBI (30), SB (30), BB, K
8. SS – Freddy Galvis (LHV-11/14/89) – (.314) –1 for 4 with a K
9. 3B – Maikel Franco (LWD-8/26/92) – (.123) – 0 for 4
15. RHP – Lisalberto Bonilla (LWD-6/6/90) – (4-4, 2.83) 6 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K (win)
16. 3B – Harold Martinez (WIL-5/31/90) – (.250) – 0 for 3
18. C – Cameron Rupp (LWD-9/28/88) – (.271) – 0 for 3 with a BB, K
19. OF – Brian Pointer (GCL-1/28/92) – (.277) – 2 for 5 with a HR (4), 2B (11), 2 RBI (21), K
22. 3B – Carlos Rivero (REA-5/20/88) –(.288) 1 for 4 with a run, BB, K
23. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (REA/12/24/85)– (.286) – 2 for 5 with a 2B (30), run, RBI (72), 3 K’s
25. OF – Kyrell Hudson (WIL-16/6/90) – (.278) – 0 for 4 with 2 K
26. OF – Aaron Altherr (WIL-1/14/91) – (.279) – 2 for 3 with a run, CS (4)
29. 2B– Cody Asche (WIL-6/20/90) – (.198) 1 for 3 with a K
30. OF – Derrick Mitchell (REA-1/5/87)- (.269) – 1 for 3 with an RBI (69), BB, 2 K
Other names of interest
1B – Cody Overbeck (LHV-6/5/86) – (.253) – 3 for 4
2B – Alejandro Villalobos (GCL/8/20/91) – (.263) 1 for 5 with a 2B (4)
SS – Edgar Duran (LWD-2/10/91) – (.237) 1 for 3
OF – Anthony Hewitt (LWD-4/27/89) – (.232) – 2 for 4 with 2 SB (34), K
RHP – JC Ramirez (REA-8/16/88) – (9-13, 4.83) – 5.1 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 2 K (win)
RHP – Lino Martinez (WIL-9/17/92) – (6-2, 2.79) – 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 4 K
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Is .314 Galvis’s season average or just AAA?
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That’s AAA only. He hit .273 at Reading this year.
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His combined line (AA-AAA) is .278 AVG/.327 OBP/.721 OPS in 538 PA.
Pretty impressive for a guy who came into the season with a career high OPS of .588.
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Diekman continues to pitch well. He may pitch at CBP pretty soon. He is starting to look like more than a left handed specialist.
Alonso is getting hard to ignore. He hits for power too.
Bonilla and Martinez pitched well, as did Edell in the loss.
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Yes, what’s up w/ that Blue Hen, Alonso? He’s hitting well, including a good patient approach at the plate. His power seems to be mainly doubles right now. Though he is doing this at age 23 in Low A, does he have a chance to exceed original expectations? How is his fielding?
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Checking Alanso: 5’11” 205 (!) d/b 2-15-98 (21) from Univ of Delaware.
NY/SAL ba .339 127ABs 10 2bh 0 3bh 1 HR 22BB 10K(!!)
Note his weight: for 5’8″ he must be built like a fireplug. His next move SHOULD be up to Clwtr in ’12. Lack of HR power so far is a concern. Don’t know about his glove. Though he is listed as a third baseman,l he has been playing 2nd base at Lkwd. Trying to imagine a fire plug there, seems like manueverability might be limited by that frame.
Another “curiosity” is this guy Astudillo who played in the Venezuela Lg who hit mid-300s and STRUCK OUT ONLY ONE TIME THE WHOLE SEASON!! He is also listed as a 3rd baseman. Hope he is in the GCL in ’12.
They are both intriguing.
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Check that…he is 5’8″..Alonso.
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Brian Pointer with another strong game. Solid first season of pro ball.
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Double and homer for Pointer. That’s a really good game.
Nice game for Collier. Two hits and steals home- must’ve been exciting. Good start for Bonilla.
Galvis hits, Overbeck three hits.
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Isn’t the GCL a real bad league for offense? So Pointer’s four homers are quite impressive for someone in the GCL.
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Yes, it is almost a deadball type league for offense.
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To put in perspective, this is the first year since 2007 (looking at leaders on Baseball Reference) that a GCL player has hit double digits in homers.
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Overbeck is starting to heat up. It took a while but I think he has finally figured out AAA pitching.
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Now the question is – what’s next for him in 2012, and this upcoming offseason? Can he play LF, 3B, and 1B well enough defensively to be a utility g/ pinch hitter in the bigs?
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The question is: Can he be Greg Dobbs in his prime?
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Dobbs had a very brief “prime” lol. Cody has a lot more power.
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But Dobbs was a better prospect than Overbeck. He was a legitimate hitter who just could not find a position. Overbeck has better power than Dobbs, but, at least currently, that’s his only advantage. We should be very happy if Overbeck turns out to be a more powerful version of Dobbs.
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Dobbs was a better defensive 3B than Overbeck…as sad as that might seem.
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Wow low blow there Nepp. lol
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If he (overbeck)can do this in 150 AB with slightly below avg D at 1b, 3b, of, I’d be happy- .240-8-20 with OBP over .300. I have a feeling he could be jack cust for a bad team, full time and in his prime years ie. .245-30-90. I think his value will come as a trade chip to a small market team
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I dont have enough time to sit here and list all the reasons that Cody Overbeck will likely never have close to the career that Jack Cust has.
I think you need to re-evaluate how hard it is to have the career that Jack Cust has. Here is Jack Custs career minor league numbers:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=cust–001joh
They do not look anything like Cody Overbecks. Here are Overbecks:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=overbe001cod
At a much younger age at each level, Cust blows away Overbecks, BA, BBs, and OBP. He also hit significantly more HRS and for a higher BA.
Oh and then Cust did hit 105 HRs in the bigs (including 3 straight 25 HR seasons). Overbeck has yet to hit that first major league HR.
I think it takes a lot more to be a “Jack Cust” in the major leagues than a lot of posters on here realize….
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How about Over being the next Mayberry?
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Cust was better at earlier ages. Some of the difference however is that he played in very good offensive parks out West. Overbeck probably has a little more defensive ability as well.
They are really not great comparisons. Dobbs is a little closer, though Overbeck is a lower average higher power player than Dobbs. Not sure he will make it for more than a cup of coffee, but he is at least in the picture to have his age 27-29 years be cost-effective seasons in a platoon role or on someone’s bench. That is probably what we are doing with Mayberry. I don’t buy the late development lines. We are now reaping the benefit of his age 27 year at a low cost. I am fine paying $500K for his production off the bench. When he hits 30 and starts to decline, however, it will be time to replace him rather than pay him Dobbs arbitration money.
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Maybe I am missing something, but it looks like Cust spent an awful lot of time in the minor leagues. I am sure that Overbeck would hope that he wouldn’t spend 10 plus seasons playing in the minors.
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I also bet Overbeck hopes to have 2,000 ABs in the majors, or to hit 105 HRs in the minors, or most importantly to make $2.8 million a season in the majors.
Fact is, it would be a pretty big upset for Overbeck to match Cust’s career at this point
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I should have mentioned that I thought those numbers were his ceiling ie 245-30–90 .300 obp.
I think cust had a lot more development time in minors till he was like 27 i think. So if it’s not fair to compare brown to mayberry at this point (it isn’t fair) it may not be fair to judge overbeck for 2 more years in the minors. And then I believe it took a couple of years to reach those numbers we think of cust as having. So while it’s probably 5-10% chance he reaches that ceiling it’s still reachable.
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Cust had a combined 144 at bats before his break through at age 28. Have you ever heard of the term late bloomer? apparently you are unfamiliar. Bet you wouldn’t have considered cust a AAAA player after his age 27 season? But you are an amazing prognosticator of past events answer333.
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Brief trivia history on Jack : On December 13, 2007, he was named in the Mitchell Report as a user of performance-enhancing drugs. Cust however denied any wrong doing or use of performance-enhancing drugs and that there were inaccuracies in his citings in the report. Not sure if this damaged his reputation or not.
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the cust stats mean nothing to overbeck. what cust did at a certain point doesnt translate to what overbect can become. to me its silly to use cust stats to down overbeck. some guys take longer to develop. i am not saying overbeck will be a stud but cant see how one is a refleciton of the other.
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Odd. It almost seems as if you didn’t read the original post… which compared Overbeck to Cust.
To respond by pointing out that Cust vastly outperformed Overbeck at younger ages in higher levels seems…. how can I say this…. extremely relevant.
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cust was out of HS while cody college so reaped the benefit of hitting each level earlier and lingered in minors for almost a decade. Cust took parts of 5 years to stick in the majors until age 28 so his earlier “better” numbers become less relevant for comparison sake. Still I’m very happy if he becomes jack cust
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Franco isn’t adjusting to Lakewood very quickly. Guess he just needs to keep going out and getting AB’s.
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Franco will be re-joining Williamsport tomorrow
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Why is Murphy still playing at Lakewood? Is he a hardship case for the Phillies?
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read it still seems stupid
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I think it’s awesome that us baseball nerds are on a site dedicated to Phillies minor league prospects and we’re in the middle of a Jack Cust/Cody Overbeck discussion/debate.
Truly exceptional.
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Its little discussions like this that make me happy I devote such an inordinate amount of my life to following all aspects of the Phillies organization…and baseball in general.
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MAYBERRY AGAIN!!!! Start Believing Doubters!!!! Raul Ibanez of 2011 will be the Geoff Jenkins of 2008 and John Mayberry Jr of 2011 is the Jayson Werth of 2008.
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Was there tonight—-when big John hits a pitchers mistake—it is gone and quick. Does have some kind of strength.
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If Mayberry ever puts up a season with a WAR of 5 (like Werth did in 2008) I will change my screen name to Boston Idiot for a full year.
– Boston Doubter
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