Box Score Recap, 24 April 2011

Box Score Recap

Things are rosy in the bush leagues…

Lehigh Valley Saturday:

Reading Game 1 Saturday (completion from Friday):

Game 2, a seven inning nightcap:

Clearwater Saturday:

Lakewood Saturday (not as rosy):

Lehigh Valley Sunday:

Not bad–all teams on the road, 5 out of 6 wins. Some good individual performances here and there.

69 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 24 April 2011”

  1. Singleton’s injury now confirmed to be a sore wrist; the home run Saturday is a good sign he’s recovering. Pettibone, JC Ramirez, and Worley with nice starts.

    Santana with a HR for Lakewood, and Perdomo found open spaces 4 times out of 4 ABs, bringing his average above the Mendoza line.

    Moose Mattair with another HR Saturday, I’m starting to hope a little bit.

    Galvis 4/9, Mitchell 4/7, and Overbeck 3/7 for Reading in the DH.

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  4. I would like to see a hitting prospect go up to Lehigh Valley. The youngest position player on their team is Brandon Moss.

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    1. I think he hit his ceiling last year. I love this story, but right now he’s stuck in AAA. I don’t think anyone else is interested in him; so he’ll stick around I bet.

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    1. I’m not sure where we got him from but I know he is a former twins prospect. He is old for Lakewood so he will need to move fast if he is going to be considered a real prospect.

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  12. Schimer to the majors would be great – anyone think our 2013 bullpen might look like this?

    Herndon – i dont care what anyone says- he’s practically free
    Kendrick – If he doesn’t move to the rotation post Oswalt, Blanton, or Doc
    DeFratus
    Schwimer
    Madsen
    Bastardo
    Stutes

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      1. He said 2013. Thats 2 years. But no, I don’t think there’s any chance that that will be our bullpen then or ever.

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        1. You are right. That won’t be the bullpen in 2 years either. Kendrick would be in his third arbitration year by then. He will probably be non-tendered or traded by then. Also, some of the current starters in the system(JC Ramirez, Worley, Cosart?) will jump some of these minor league relievers to become bullpen pieces by 2013.

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          1. True. And aside from that, the odds of having a fully homegrown bullpen seem very slim to me. Some wont be able to stick, some will be traded, some will get stuck behind a veteran FA signing, inevitably.

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    3. I think they will have Contreras and either Lidge or another veteran. I don’t think De Fratus, Stutes, and Schwimer will all be on the team either. Possibly Stutes. I doubt the other two will unless their is an injury.

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    4. No, Aumont will be in pen. If we still have Cholly, we have at least a couple vet relievers. By then, Madson counts as grizzled vet, but I suspect 2 beyond him.

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  13. Maybe it sounds terrible, but I really do think these guys going down is a long-term good thing for the organization. Charlie has always been one to lean on vets foremost, but now he has no choice to play the youngins. By the time everyone gets healthy, if the kids have performed (they’ll obviously have the experience), Charlie will have no choice to play the more talented, younger pitchers, right? If things go perfectly, and maybe this is wishful thinking, I could totally see a Contreras (9th), Bastardo (8th or LH assassin), Stutes (7th/8th), Schwimmer (6th/7th), Aumont (6th/7th) bullpen in 2012 (or 2013, at the latest). That’d be a hell of a talented, K-throwing, cheap bullpen, and we could spent the rest of our payroll on picking up Oswalt’s option, signing Hamels, dealing with the 15 million/year-excessive cost we’re paying Howard. Who knows, maybe we could even sign a SS or trade for a SS who can hit a little?

    We’ll be in the Fall Classic either way, so why not see whether we having any legit future BP arms in our system?

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    1. I am glad I am not the only one who thinks Ryan Howard is grossly overpaid and that Jimmy Rollins days are numbered. Zero HRs and two RBIs after 1/8th of a season. That projects out to a whopping ZERO HRs and 16 RBIs from a #3 hitter, hitting behind two guys who are having a good and excellent year in Victorino & Polanco. While I am picking on the big club, how much longer do we have to watch Ibanez flail away aimlessly? I was glad to see Charlie finally give Mayberry a shot in LF yesterday.

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  15. Right now Schwim needs to figure out how to miss bats and keep runners off base in AAA. His peripheral stats are going to keep him from getting promoted at this point, I fear. 1.44 WHIP means he’s been getting pretty lucky, although he has 9 Ks and only 3 BBs in 9 IP. All the LV pitchers have pretty high K-rates.

    Looking at the AAA roster, the next guy up might be a starter like Bonine or Worley.

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      1. “You should be beaten for posting this.”

        Hey Free AEC, Bonine has a 2.60 era, by your usual logic he’s pitching slightly better then Tim Lincecum. Maybe the Giants would trade us him and Belt for Rizzotti and Bonine?

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            1. Why is it that certain people seem to think that this site is to be used to take shots at other people whose comments he doesn’t agree with … “You should be beaten for posting this” … you’re the type of guy who gives Philadelphia fans a bad rap!

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    2. I think he’s already missing enough bats. 27 Ks in 29 lifetime AAA innings isnt bad. 10 BBs in 29 innings isn’t real bad either. He can get better, but I don’t think we should be reading too much into his 9 innings this year and say he’s got problems.

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  16. Hopefully we won’t need any more relievers to come up.

    Perhaps we’d like to see Aumont get initiated into MLB soon, but his success is short term, so he’d have to be lights out over the next 3 months to get a shot this season.

    We know that this org does not like to rush its prospect pitchers.

    Glad to see Stutes get a shot; wonder about DeFratus, too. Not as “lights out” as he was in ’10 and ST. Hope he gets into a groove and becomes eligible to move up to LV in ’11 sooner rather than later.

    Now, if only we could find a lefty reliever to pair with oncoming Bastardo…

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    1. His lines have been odd so far. At least he’s getting a lot of groundballs. That could sort of explain it.

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  18. Everybody needs to keep in mind 8 pitching prospects tend to turn into a much lower number of major league contributing pitchers. If of Bastardo, Zagurski, Stutes, Schwimmer, Herndon, Mathieson, DeFratus, and Aumont we get one star closer (think a Billy Wagner career), one really good set up man (think Ryan Madson), and two serviceable middle relievers (think Chad Durbin), that will be a typical result over time. To think all of these guys will become members of one bullpen acceptable to a team trying to win a title is not realistic.

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    1. That would not be at all typical. That would be outstanding. Delete the Wagner clone and look at just a Madson and two middle relievers and that would be typical.

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      1. Having a guy like Bastardo still thought of as a prospect tilts it a little. He’s struck out 40 of the 120 MLB batters he’s faced since moving to the bullpen. I think the only question at this point is health.

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      2. Allentown – I don’t disagree if all were true prospects but when you factor in that Herndon was on the roster for a full year (albeit in a limited role) and Bastardo has had several cups of coffee, I think the “typical” is a bit better in this scenario.

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        1. That is not typical. None of those guys are projected to be an elite closer, much less a Billy Wagner type. If any of those 8, become even Ryan Madson, that would be a success. Bastardo and Aumont have the best chances of that group, IMO.

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    2. The rule of thumb is one out of three top prospects, meaning that of Cosart, Colvin, May, Pettibone, Rodriguez and Biddle expect two of them to make it as starters or back end of the pen guys.

      DeFratus, Zagurski and Schwimmer, the rule of thumb for these guys is probably one out of one hundred.

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      1. No, it is much better than one of of one hundred, if you are talking being a solid reliever. I’ll agree one in a hundred or a little worse to be Billy Wagner, but I can see Aumont, DeFratus, and Stutes all having about a chance in 4 of being as good as Ryan Madson.

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        1. Where do you see Phillippe Aumont’s name in my post? Stutes?

          “DeFratus, Zagurski and Schwimmer”

          Aumont would fit into the Cosart, Colvin, May category.

          Stutes is not in that elite type of category, but he and J.C. Ramirez are certainly in a much higher level prospect class than “DeFratus, Zagurski and Schwimmer”.

          I see why the Phils wanted Ramirez, I can’t understand the wacky results he has gotten this spring and now at Reading.

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  19. Lanning was with W’port last year- hit well but already had 2-3 minor league seasons under his belt yet still played in the NYPL. Rupp was the #1 C but Lanning got a fair amount of time behind the dish and at DH. I don’t think they consider him to be a prospect with his age/level.

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  21. Club W-L PCT GB
    Lehigh Valley 9-8 .529 2.0
    Reading 11-5 .688 –
    Clearwater 10-7 .588 2.5
    Lakewood 6-10 .375 6.0

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  22. It’s great to see Lakewood winning championships year after year, but I’d rather see strength at High-A and AA. Notwithstanding the current standings, Clearwater and Reading seem to be the strongest on paper. Clearwater in particular should be a fun team to watch this year.

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  24. Jeff Lanning- was an 8th round choice of Minnesota in ’08. So last season being his 3rd as a professsional, he was within the range of playing in a short season league.
    Cameron Rupp is ~ 21 months younger than Lanning.
    Cameron Rupp is ~ 20 months younger than Derrick Mitchell.
    Rupp is ~ 11 months younger than Torre Langley.
    Rupp is ~ 9 months younger than Albert Cartwright.
    Rupp is ~1 month younger than Tyson Gillies.
    Rupp is ~ 2 months older than Travis Mattair or D’Arby Myers
    Rupp is ~ 7 months older than Anthony Hewitt.

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  25. Nice to see Freddy Galvis still hovering around .280–that will play, even if it’s an empty .280, at a position like SS. It seems reasonable to think that as he gets a bit older he might add a little bit to the slugging percentage. Considering the team’s death of middle infield prospects, that has to be one of the happier (and to me, surprising) developments of the early season… Also nice to see Santana with a home run. it’s starting to look like he belongs in Lakewood this year. Anyone have an idea why Zeid came out after 2 IP? From the box it looks like there was a rain delay at some point, so perhaps I’ve answered my own question there.

    Even I’m starting to feel discouraged about Mathieson. I wonder what the heck they’re going to do if Madson’s “arm soreness” turns out to be something significant?

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    1. I meant to say the team’s “dearth” of middle infield prospects, not “death.” As I understand it most of them are still living, even if they don’t always play that way.

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    2. Andrew – do you know Gavlis’s SLG or OPS? I know all the reports I’ve read about him say that his “power” stats are really poor (.294/ .575 – which actually come to think of it isn’t poor, it’s horrid). I’m impressed that he’s gotten his average up to a respectable number after 4 years hovering at .233 (almost 50 points) but has there been any improvement with his other “slash” stats?

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    3. I doubt .280 in AA will play up very well in the majors. Now if he can continue to improve at hit .280 at AAA and .280 at majors then his defense will be enough to keep him in the majors and possibly as a starter. But he will not have any power so his OPS will be terrible no matter what.

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    4. .280 with an OPS below .650 won’t play anywhere except as a defensive sub. He needs to take a few walks, and show the power he flashed during ST.

      He bunts well, and he’s a good baserunner, but doesn’t steal bases.

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  26. Looks like the Ironpigs really got hosed. Game called on account of rain with the tying and go-ahead runs on base in the 9th.

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  27. Chapman to Lehigh, Jordan Ellis to Reading. I am glad to see Ellis go to Reading. He was dominating in Clearwater but was old for the league.

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  29. Anyone know how good mario hollands is at lakewood? He is pitching tonight and im there so i was just wondering.

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  30. Hollands is probably the second best SP prospect on the BlueClaws after Biddle. Nice stuff, needs to add a mph or three to his FB. Phils liked him in the draft and after his debut in WMPT.

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  31. Hollands (continued):

    Hollands’ K rate is down a bit this year, but he’s been pretty lucky on balls in play, shown decent control, and kept the ball in the park so his ERA is low so far. He was drafted in the 10th round last year, but got a bonus over 100K, so he was viewed as a genuine prospect. Hollands topped at 93 mph in college and sat at 90, but has thrown a bit below that for the Phils. As a 6’5″ lefty, he has a lot of projectability.

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  32. For your Monday evening consumption, courtesy of Schuler’s Hog Blog:

    “The Phillies maintain they haven’t given up on Cody Overbeck as a third baseman but the 24-year-old has been alternating between first base and designated hitter so far in Mark Parent’s Reading lineup. Whereever he winds up he’s off to a quick start; he was named the Eastern League’s first Player of the Week last Monday after hittting .366 with 5 HR and 13 RBIs in the season’s first 11 games. Entering Saturday’s action at Akron he was hitting .355 with a league-leading 6 HR and 17 RBIs.”

    Is this just front office BS or do the Phils still going to give Overbeck a longer look at the hot corner?

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    1. If he can’t play 3rd, then put him in the outfield. With Werth gone they need some pop. 1st base is a log jam.

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  34. Hollands was tossing a gem until a three run homerun in the 7 inning. Altherr however got the game winning hit on a walkoff in field single.

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