Welcome to the first box score recap of 2011. My plan is to post the line and box scores for all 4 games (and then all 6 games when the short season leagues start in June) every night, and that post can serve as your place to discuss the games and other prospect news…..until the next night’s box scores are posted. I tried doing this last year as well, this year I’m totally committed. Or at least for now! Anyway, lets get started. No real analysis by me, you know how I feel about sample sizes, so I’ll let you guys do the analysis. On with the box scores.
Just a quick note. I’m pulling all of this info straight from minorleaguebaseball.com. I’m posting the full size images. I’m doing this to make putting out these nightly reports as mechanical and easy as possible for me. Also, its easier to post the entire box score than to scan through and mention what every prospect did on the night. I’m sorry if the pictures are large. But big shiny pictures are fun, so just embrace it.
Phuture Phillies 
A pretty great night for Clearwater, Hernandez and Valle excluded.
Also, Cosart had a no-hitter going until the 5th, I believe.
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Haha at the Clearwater lines.
RISP 4-20
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Cosart is overated 4 bb’s? what a bum
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I’m going to assume your kidding but you forgot to mention the HBP and WP. But 11 to 1 GO/FO with 2 of those getting wiped away by DPs. I like that he’s able to rescue himself with a DP ball or a K. Caveat: very, very small sample size.
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I like the blog on the minor league teams…I used to live in the Scranton area when the red barons were up there…so its nice to keep tabs on the teams…
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I second that, keep these coming, love the new format too
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Hewitt picking up right where he left off. Bleh.
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looks like Savery had a good game at the plate
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Ruben reportedly at the Pigs game. Let’s hope he takes Stutes back to Phila. with him. Nothing beats coming in to get a strike out with the bases loaded and striking out 3 of the 4 hitters he faces on 14 pitches.
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Wow.
I also like that 4 of SWB’s 7 hits came from former Phillies draftees.
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Phils bullpen with a 2.3 ERA thus far … not sure he’s needed just yet!
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Watched Clearwater tonight beat a poor defensive Duniden team as Cosart looked fairly good. He was 92-94 for most of his 6 innings(only in the 6th did he not get a 94 reading) but I felt he did not have great command of his offspeed stuff, but he did get a lot of GB outs, 2 DPs in first 3 innings. Offensively Singleton, of his 3 hits, 2 of them he really squared up, line drives to right and up the middle while Savery and Mattair each also had a couple hard hit balls. Ruf really crushed a homer to go with a nice opposite field single. Hernandez had a poor night not really hitting anything hard in his 6 ab’s. The one defensive gem was turned in by Hanzawa, diving to his right and throwing from his knees to nip him at first.
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That’s what pitching is about. Getting thru the game without your best stuff.
That is what makes a GREAT pitcher…
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But no one is looking for a wily pitching prospect. We want to see 9K in 6 innings like Worley did.
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I’ll take a wily pitching prospect … who also happens to have great stuff. His point was it’s great to see success on the days without his stuff. That shows he’s a pitcher, not a thrower.
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If his stuff is like that the first week of May everyone who had him on their Top 100 list will put a line through him and wait to hear what the reason is.
Myers had a great curveball, Hamels a great changeup. Cosart is all about the fastball, MPH and the life he has on it. Pure power arm.
Cosart couldn’t survive at Reading without the fastball he’s known for.
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I know you’re not the brightest guy in the world and all, but power pitchers are notorious for not throwing their hardest in the first couple weeks of the season.
Justin Verlander who usually sits 94-97+ on his fastball, is sitting 92-95 so far.
King Felix sits 93-95, only throwing 90-94 right now.
Ubaldo Jiminez who sits 94-98, only throwing 90-92 so far.
THESE GUYS SHOULD ALL HAVE A LINE DRAWN ACROSS THEIR POSSIBLE CY YOUNGS THIS YEAR!!!!!
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Just curious to know if Singleton had any chances in LF and if so, how did he look?
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None, never touched the ball, but I did see him make a nice play during ST games with no bad plays.
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Its not uncommon for pitchers to not have their best stuff early in the season. Its a good baseline though for comparison moving forward. Thanks for the report “Anonymous”
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Have some video but don’t know how to send it, tried e-mail but kept getting an error. Can you give directions?
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youtube?
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take the video file and upload it to a site like sendspace.com (as long as it is under 300 megabytes it will work) and then email me the sendspace link. I’ll cut the video down and then upload it to my youtube channel.
Thanks!
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I already uploaded on Youtube under the title :
Threshers 1 005(Cosart 5th inning)
Threshers 1 006(Hernandez 6th inning)
Threshers 1 007(Singleton 6th inning)
Threshers 1 008( Cosart 6th inning)
Can you get them from there or do you need me to put them on sendspace?
The video’s aren’t that great, my first time, hopefully I’ll get better.
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did you get a video of Cloyd in the 7th? impressive.
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I’ll tell you . . . nothing can replace watching that video.
Having seen the video, I now understand why experienced baseball people are concerned about Cosart not using the lower half of his body enough. His leg kick is low (it’s almost like he is pitching from the stretch) and he does not appear to create much torque with his body. It’s like he’s leaving velocity on the table and also putting too much strain on his arm. I wonder if somebody is working with him on this. Check out the video and see if you agree. It looks to me like a pretty glaring issue.
As for Singleton – man, what a short, sweet stroke. Like Utley, he gets to the ball very quickly from his starting position, but he’s got tremendous power too. Very impressed.
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Cosart’s delivery is a mess. If he could line himself up properly every pitch he could probably hit 100 MPH.
That’s why Oswalt is a power guy, perfect delivery. Same with Billy Wagner.
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Copied these titles into Youtube search and could not find any of them. Please advise.
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I did the same and found them no problem.
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I’m good. Nice views of how these guys pitch and hit.
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Nice job.
What are you using to make the video (detail)?
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Awesome stuff, thanks for posting that.
I’m going to add links to the videos on Cosart’s profile page here. Thanks again.
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LV pitchers with 16 K’s. SWB must have some real free swingers.
Nice night / day for the Organization.
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A lot of good stuff on the opening night. A few thoughts…
AAA – Worley was dealing with 9K’s and zero runs thru six. Kept the walks/BBs down and only allowed one extra-base hit. Pretty damn strong first start. Nice work, Vance. Speaking of dealing….Stutes was flashes with 3 K’s in 1 1/3. Meanwhile, Young hits a HR and reminds everyone that the big club has potentially a solid option at AA.
AA – Galvis is batting 2nd. That’ll be interesting to follow.
A+ – Weird line on Cosart, but they couldn’t hit him for the first four innings and they never got more than a single off of him. James had a hell of a game with a couple of hits, a couple of walks and a couple of steals. Nice line. The team banged out 15 hits. Singleton had three. Castro has 3 and savery goes 4 for 4.
A – Rupp goes 1 for 3. Murphy goes deep. Pitching was rock solid with the shutout.
Nice opening night, indeed.
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I’m sure Galvis is hitting in the #2 hole to maximize his ABs. Harold Garcia, who I see as a #2 type hitter, was batting 3rd. Harold was 2 -4. Gosewisch went deep. Zeid gave up 7 Hits and 4 runs in 5IP. What I like about it is he never let an inning get away from him. He gave up 4 single run innings and when he got in trouble got himself out. He skipped A+ and was getting his feet wet.
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Garcia #2 is also a confidence builder. Phils are quite obviously invested in Freddy making it as a hitter. Don’t want to send the message that his ceiling is a AA #8/9 hitter. Give him some definite responsibility. He has shown a little pop in ST, I think he has muscled up a bit. #2 hole comes with challenges, make good contact, drive the ball in the gap, be patient, etc. If he develops into a .650-.700 OPS guy in next 2 years, they have something. Likely? Maybe not. Possible? With a guy who is young for his level, you have to assume some improvement and put him in the best position to achieve it. There’s no other choice. With his premium fielding and past week-long stretches of decent hitting, you have to assume you can develop his offense.
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I meant GALVIS!!!
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Gosewich also muscled up in the off-season, jacked a few out in ST. Could it be that Tuffy has worked himself into a fringe prospect of the late bloomer variety? At the least, he is solid in a year or two as an emergency call-up. Also a future coach and org person.
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Well its his first real start but cosart has to keep the walks down, and vance worley had 9 strikeouts thats impressive. Singleton 3-5 is a good start, and Domingo Santana at 1-3 is alrite. Altherr 0-4 and Hernendez 0-6 hopefully thats not a bad sign but overall good opening day for us in the minors.
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Saw the shutout line and was hoping it was Biddle’s start. Oh well…
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PS I really hope the ‘K’ in Tyler Knigge’s last name isn’t silent
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If it is Sarge would have to be called on to deal with it.
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Racist clown
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Sarge is a mute button waiting to happen. It’s worse than listening to your mother-in-law.
May is off to a good start thru 3 innings.
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Eric Pettis with 2 perfect innings for the Save. Was anyone in Lakewood tonight to see the velocity readings on him?
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I wonder how long Charlie will stick with Herndon given his dismal performance so far in 2011. 1 K, 2 BBs, 5 hits, and 3 ER in his first 5 IP. Obviously very early, but I’d like to see Stutes get a shot if Herndon hasn’t improved his peripherals considerably in a month or so.
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I don’t see how that is particularly dismal.
He got a bit unlucky in his first appearance, but since then has looked okay.
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If you project those peripherals out over the course of 60-70 IP, it’s atrocious.
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Of course it is.
It’s also silly to project 5 IP to continue over 60 IP.
Give the man some time, honestly.
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Except that those peripherals in 5 innings are exactly what those of us who are skeptics of Herndon are afraid of, and are exactly in line with the 400+ innings he’s thrown before. But people on here are willing to look at some Spring Training sliders and say “give the man time.”
Not silly at all really. And I wonder who truly understands sample sizes.
And yes, I’m very confident that Herndon sucks.
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What did I say about small samples! Its not time to replace Herndon. He’s given up one hard hit ball in 5 IP. Just like we’re not going to overreact to minor league performances, we shouldn’t overreact to small samples at the major league level, good or bad.
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Did you read what I wrote? “Obviously very early, but I’d like to see Stutes get a shot if Herndon hasn’t improved his peripherals considerably in a month or so.” I fully understand sample sizes.
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Then why even make the comment?
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Doesn’t sound like you do.
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I’ll excuse your comment as ignorance. I made the comment because I didn’t want Herndon on the opening day roster to begin with. He’s a poor man’s Chad Durbin and I’m basing that off his entire career. I don’t want the team waiting more than a month or two to send him down if he doesn’t improve considerably. Pretty easy to comprehend, no?
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You act like Chad Durbin isn’t a valued part of a team.
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BA just put out their prospects by position-(Subscriber only)
C-Valle 14th (D’Arnaud 3rd)
1B-Singleton 4th (Behind Hosmer, Freeman and Belt)
2B-Hernandez 14th
Corner OF- Brown 2nd (behind Harper)
Starting Right Handers-Colvin 19th,Cosart 23rd,May 33rd (Drabek 8th)
” Left ” – Biddle 24th
SS- Villar 11th
CF- Gose 5th
Relief RH-Knapp8th
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Very impressive rating for Singleton as the 3 above him are uber prospects.
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I agree. Freeman and Belt most likely won’t be prospects next year and theres a chance that Hosmer won’t be. If Singleton has another good year he has a shot to be the 2nd best or even the best first base prospect in all of baseball.
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He likely won’t be rated as a 1B prospect though since he’s a LF now.
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Agreed, need to stop hating on Herndon. He is doing a nice job and should get better as he pitches more in key spots.
As for Blanton / Worley, the ideal scenario is that if the Four Aces stay healthy and the Phils develop a nice divisional lead, they could move Blanton if Worley were to impress which would accomplish a few things. 1 – free up salary for a hitter, if one is needed, or a reliever if one is needed. 2 – it would get Worley experience to help the Phils determine if he can be our #4 or #5 in 2012.
Let’s face it – while Blanton is a key member of this team during the regular season, the 5th starter is virtually useless in the playoffs. Swapping out Blanton For Worley in late July would replace about 10 Blanton starts for Worley starts, not a big deal, if the other 4 are healthy and we have a nice lead. Using the remainder of his salary on a more needed piece could be huge.
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Nobody “hated” on Herndon.
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The key for Herndon is that he is maintaining his hard, heavy sinker, AND has come up with a killer slider, reminds one of a Lidge slider, very vertical, sharp down-breaking. Would love to see Herndon throw a four seamer high in the zone like Happ, Hamels, and Oswalt do to get the batter’s eyes on a higher plane. That would make his down-moving stuff even more effective.
IMO, Herndon’s slider puts him ahead of Mathieson, who is not commanding the splitter consistently yet, and Stutes, who is simply a young guy flashing great performance for the first time. If Stutes maintain his stuff and command in LV, he’ll get his chance. Same with Scott, if he gets more consistent command.
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Herndon throws from below 3/4. Four seamer above the belt is not really gonna happen for him. You will note that the 3 pitchers you mention are all over top.
If Herndon develops a good slider, who knows. But until we have evidence, he’s a chump. He can’t miss bats. His whole career says so. His first 5 innings this year are only meaningful in disproving everyone on here who says he’s different. Y’all are depending on small sample sizes (or I might argue, no samples, just amateur scouting reports), not us “haters”.
And yes all this talk about the Phil’s 12 pitcher is stupid. But stupid is as stupid does.
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The two that jump out at me are Savery with a beastly 4 for 4 with 2 runs and Worley dealin 9k’s in 6 innings (15k’s for team). These teams look good…go phils!
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I just checked the Clearwater website (Sat night 8:45), he was 2 – 4 last night, and 4 -4 AGAIN tonight with a HR and 2B !! He is off to a unbelievable start, albeit an impossible pace to maintain, but he is sure making someone look good getting him off the mound.
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So nice that we can now count on Savery to replace Howard in a few years. I guess he wasn’t a bust afterall.
p.s.- Joking.
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See above … I know it is only three games, but how many players in the history of baseball started out their minor league career in A+ ball 10 for 12?? That is flat out sick!
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Just a bit impressive. I won’t take him seriously till he bats .900 though…an .833 AVG just wont do it for me.
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Good stuff. I’m happy to see Singleton get off to a hot start. Also, Worley with the high K number is pretty important. Makes me think he can be a 3-4 starter in the majors and not just a 5-AAA type guy. We’ll see. Hard to not get excited by Stutes and Savery. Aumont with 1 batter, 1k as well – nothing wrong with that!
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Even Zeid wasn’t horrible. Considering a new league and cold weather. Great night for most. We will see. Thank God.
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Does anyone know how legit Savery may be? All I have seen since Instructs is this guy getting multiple hits. I have not seen the ab’s to know what his swing looks like or how hard he is hitting the ball. But, the guy hit in college and has raked since the fall. Could he be a major league hitter?
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He raked in colleg. You never know how that translates. Nor do you know how limited ABs as a hitting pitcher who is not on anyone’s radar translates to continued success as a starter and moving up the ladder. But the early returns in ST and Game 1 are pretty promising. I hope he’s having fun and totally committed to it.
PC has stated that he is an outstanding fielding 1B and is athletic enough to play corner OF, so 1B, LF, RF are possibilities. He played some OF in college and would certainly have the arm for RF.
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My glass-half-empty guess with Savery is that he is raking because they don’t have any current scouting reports on him. I’m certainly pulling for him, but I won’t be looking to board the bandwagon until he’s logged about 150-200 plate appearances.
– Jeff
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Agreed. Savery getting off to a good start is certainly better than a bad one. But I suspect that he will have probably two adjustment periods if he continues to progress.
First one after pitchers learn his weaknesses.
Second one after he plays a long season.
If he can still have some good weeks after that then he will force the Phillies into a difficult decision in the offseason to protect him and to try him in RF. He really needs to be evaluated after the entire season since he is essentially a first year hitter.
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I like that Clearwater lineup. It’s stacked right up to Mattair and Hanzawa. but these two guys give you great defense on the left side of the infield. If Mattair can contribute some offense, it’s going to be a great season in FLA. Interestingly, small sample and all those caveats, but Mattair leads CLW in RBIs. (I’m just havin’ a little fun.) But that lineup is scary… at least on paper.
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If Savery shows he can hit they’ll need to find a spot for him to play defensively. How much work did he get at 1B in spring training? How many innings in the field will he need to develop defensively compared to how many at bats will he need to develop offensively?
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-Citizens Bank Park, Opening day 2012
“Batting 5th playing left field Joe Savery!”
But seriously he’s a fund prospect to follow, probably because I had completely written him off as a prospect before he picked up a bat and the odds are massively against him.
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hey, Rick Ankiel did it.
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Ankiel got by with a little help from his friends….H, G and H.
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Drugs that have proven to have no effect on males aged 20-40 other than as a placebo? HGH doesnt help you in any way if you’re a healthy male in that age range.
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Silver Glove fielder at 1B in college. No concerns about his fielding. I really don’t think people appreciate how good an athlete Savery is. He’s a big powerful guy who can move gracefully.
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I think he would be fine in the OF. My concern on offense with him was power.
Look at his college stats:
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/profile.asp?P=/joe-savery.shtml
Good average and patience. Not too much power for a major league 1B prospect in college. Expanding his defensive possibilities to the OF is probably a necessity for him making it, and we still might be talking only a Greg Dobbs type hitter. But better than nothing. Long run I also wonder if he could make it as a Brooks Kieschnick type and keep pitching some. He is lefthanded and the 12th guy on the staff could easily be a LOOGY/PH role.
One step at a time but I am rooting for him.
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I wouldn’t call him Ankiel but who knows he could be a left handed bat off the bench if he keeps these numbers up.
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And maybe a situational pitcher. A year of rest and he may get the strength back in his arm.
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Definately nice to see three of the four games with strong starts from Worley, Cosart, and Hollands. Clearwater will be great team to watch this year. The line-up is strong and we all know how strong the pitching is.
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Thanks PhuturePhillies for these box scores. I like this format.
I am very pleased with Worley’s first outing. Early or not, 6 shut-out innings with 9:1 k:1 against the Yankee’s top farm team is impressive. I was looking for and expecting Worley to improve his K/9 this year and this start gives me no reason to curb my optimism for him. I hope he spends at least 4 months in LHV, where he is at least a full year younger than anybody else on the active roster, to complete his minor league development.
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I said in ST that I thought Worley was probably as good as Blanton right now – I’m not sure if that’s the case, but if it’s not, it might be soon. If what I saw last year in the big leagues is representative of his general abilities, then Worley has much better stuff than he is generally credited as having. Worley flashes a low to mid 90s FB and a general assortment of quality breaking pitches. I’m not sure what the team is going to do with him and Blanton. A lot of that depends on whether the team thinks Oswalt is going to be on the staff next year.
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I’m curious what their future plans with Savery are if his bat is for real. He has the arm for the outfield and, while it wouldn’t be wise to put him at a more complicated defensive position just yet, I can’t help but think that he has the capacity to play LF. He likely doesn’t have the power to be a viable 1b or DH option. If they do intend to move him they had better do it soon before he’s old enough to get social security.
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I’m not sure he has enough power to play LF either. He never had much power in college, though I bet his shoulder impacted his power during his senior year. Either way, he will be fun to follow as someone else said above. I don’t expect much, but I wish him the best.
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It’s possible his approach in college was to hit line drives. He’s a strong guy and it doesn’t take a stretch to see him as someone physically able to hit 20 HR and 35 2Bs. That is, if he learns to hit good pitching at all. I don’t see power as a big issue. He obviously blisters the ball, not a slap hitter. Just a matter of him finding the right stroke and knowing when to react on an inside pitch and pull the ball. Lots of guys have come to that later on in their development.
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Truth is Savery played a very solid LF at Rice, though admittedly very few games in the OF, especially after his freshman year (a need for him at 1B when he wasn’t pitching, while there was depth in the Rice OF.
Curious over the notion that Savery somehow was a banjo hitter. His freshman year, when the priority was more for his role as a position player, Savery was the Baseball America College Freshman of the Year. He led Conference USA in hitting, and had a .559 slugging average. with a third of his hits for extra bases while still a maturing teen-ager. For his entire college career he had a .530 slugging avg, with a third of his hits extra bases. In 733 total college ABs, he had an impressive 56 doubles, five triples, 20 HR (when you take into account that hitters don’t begin to approach peak power until age 25 or later, and that Savery was dividing his time between pitching & playing 1B, those numbers project to being a 20+ HR, 60+ extra base hits, 300+ BA player–good numbers for a corner OF, which is where he likely plays if there is a major league career in his future (as I believe there will be).
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In the beginning of the minor league camp games I thought Savery had a slow bat when he hit the ball hard other way. But as the camp games went on he simply used the whole field. The last time I saw him hit in camp games he lined a home run down the right field line at Ashburn. Last night he had two hits to left and two to right. This should be interesting.
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He’ll move fast if his bat is for real. He won’t stay in Clearwater very long as he’s too old. They’ll really want to push him up to Reading to see what they ahve in him.
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The statistics you cite basically prove the point that he did not hit for power. In 2010, 293 Div. 1 hitters had a SLG above 600. Slugging 530 in college is not that impressive. Since someone mentioned Dobbs, as a senior in college Dobbs had a SLG of 671. Darin Ruf was at 545, Jim Murphy was at 667, Rizzotti was at 588. Savery was not a power hitter in college.
Maybe he has it in him. Maybe he was directed by his coach not to hit for power. It will be interesting to see how the season progresses and I wish him the best!
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Savery also did not really stand out among his teammates as having exceptional power. Aaron Luna had more each of the years they played together.
Savery’s value at the plate appears to be as a high-OBP, mid-level power guy. He will probably need more power to remain at 1B. There is nothing wrong with being a high OBP kind of player, but one generally looks for more power out of 1B. At least he has a decent arm so both LF and RF would be additional possibilities for him.
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Why does he have to have power to play LF? I get that it helps, but if Ibanez typically puts up approx 20 HR’s a year and in a couple years Savery would be MLB ready and prove to be a line drive .300 type hitter who hit 10-15 HR’s a year, that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world if you have power at other positions, notably 1B, RF, and 3B.
A great example is Polanco right now – sure it would be nice to have a 20+ HR guy at 3B but if Polanco hits .290 this year, works counts, is a good situational hitter, and plays good defense, that will be fine. So if in two years we have an average guy in LF and a power guy at 3B what is the difference?
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Nice game by Savery; Now only if Anthony Hewitt could pitch we may have something
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Love, love, love the new boxscore recap with the screen grabs. Thanks!!
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Pardon my ignorance but what the …. is a screen grab. I have lived too long. My first experience with electronics was peeking thru Skippy Barber’s winder at his new fangeled 6 inch black and white TV. A marvel back then.
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Snagit
Takes a picture of what you are looking at on your screen and saves to png or jpeg file.
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I love the fact that the minors are underway and we can check PP every day for results. Thanks!
It is expecially exciting considering the depth of prospects across all levels. We have a 6th starter at LHV, multiple bullpen arms there too. Dom Brown will be back their soon.
We have a potential closer at Reading, along with some other nice prospects. Clearwater could beat the Astros this weekend, Lakewood has some intesting prospects all over the field. We are still housing some guys in extended spring training.
Oh yeah, the big club has the best rotation in baseball and a pretty good team, and sells out every night. What a party that is!
This is the best time in Phillies history to be a fan of the organization; from top to bottom. Soak it all in!
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I couldn’t agree more. Those who do not feel at least mostly this way are destined to a life of unhappiness.
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Hope this isn’t repetitive, but here’s a breakdown by the site’s top 30:
1. OF – Domonic Brown (Lehigh valley) – DNP
2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- DNP
3. OF – Jon Singlteton (Clearwater)- 3 for 5 with a run, an RBI and a K
4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – 6 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 2 K’s
5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- DNP
6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – 0 for 5 with 2 K’s
7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – DNP
8. RHP – vance Worley (Lehigh valley) – 6 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 1 BB and 9 K’s
9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – DNP
11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- DNP
12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – 0 for 6 with an RBI and 2 K’s
13. OF – Domingo Santana (Clearwater) – 1 for 3 with an RBI
14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – DNP
15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – 0 for 4 with a K
16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – DNP
17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – 1 for 3 with a K
18. OF – Jiwan james (Clearwater) – 2 for 4 with 2 BB’s and 2 SB’s
19. 2B – Harold Garia (Reading) – 2 for 4
20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) –
22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – .1 IP, 0 H, 0 R and 1 K
23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh valley) – DNP
24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – 0 for 3 with a B and a K
25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – DNP
26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – 3 for 5 with 3 runs and an RBI
27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) -DNP
28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – 5 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 1 BB and 5 K
30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started
Others:
SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – 1 for 4 with 2 RBI and a K
OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) – 4 for 4 with 2 runs, a double and a walk
OF – Delwyn Young (Lehigh valley) – 1 for 3 with a HR, 2 RBI, a BB and a K
RHP – Mike Stutes (Lehigh valley) – 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 3 K’s
RHP – Scott Mathison (Lehigh valley) – 1 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB and 2 K’s
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awesome job – this kind of thing would be an awesome daily feature for the site
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Only took me a few minutes once I got all the names and locations down.
I’ll try and update on a daily basis. Yes, I’m a nerd.
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That’s not the top 30 list that I remember through the voting. It is certainly not the founders list, which is the only one I could find a record of. Is that supposed to be the community list? I don’t see this board making some of the calls on the list you placed. I don’t recall Cameron Rupp being voted above Jiwan James. One of the big controversies was Cesar Hernandez v. Austin Hyatt, yet Hyatt way down the list. Also recall Galvis and Mathieson as on list.
Just dug up some notes through the voting: 7. Worley 8. Biddle 14. Altherr 15. Aumont 16. J.C ramirez 17. Rizzotti 18. Petitbone 19. Austin Hyatt 20. Cesar Hernandez 21. H. Garcia 22. Kelly Dugan 24. Colby Shreve 25. Freddy Galvis And I recall 27, 28 as Rupp and Walter in some order. Not to say my notes are infallible in this matter, but the list you transcriber does not match what I recall of the voting. Someone may have recorded that as the record of the voting after the fact, but , I believe if you go back to a recording of the vote as it transpired it does not match your list given here.
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I think this is PP’s ranking not the voted list.
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That is PPs list.
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Awesome! Thanks
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Feels great to have box scores to look forward to every day again (or follow live, I need to get a life)! Obviously only one game for each, but a couple pf stats from last night’s games reminded me of things that I would like to keep an eye on as the season progresses.
1. As some have mentioned, Worley allowed 4 hits with 9 k’s and 1 bb. Last season, in 158 IP Worley had a k/bb ratio of 122/46 while allowing 160 hits. In my opinion, a SP should allow less than 1 H per inning, K 1 per inning and have a K/BB ratio of 4-1 in AAA to be considered a legitimate starter prospect ready to hold down a spot in the big leagues for a good team (some exceptions apply). I would like to see Worley up his game this year to become a legitimate 3/4 starter candidate.
2. Jiwan James 2-4 with 2bb and 2sb. If James is not going to develop into a true power threat (.365 slugging % last year suggests that he won’t), then he needs to refine his game to play as a speedster. Last season, James stole 33 bags but was caught stealing 20 times and in 556 abs, he walked only 35 times (6.3%). I would like to see James increade his patience at the plate to at least above an 8% bb rate this season (and more thereafter) and become more reliable on the base paths.
3. Just a general comment but Mike Stutes was pretty good last year (well below 1H/IP, more than a K/IP, 3+ ERA) but he looks outstanding right now. Major League spring training and 1 AAA game is not a big sample size but it isn’t tiny either and from this very untrained eye, his stuff looks filthy and his motion appears under control. Does anybody (PP or elsewhere) have an idea of how or why it just “clicks” for some guys all of the sudden?
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Agree box scores are great to have. For me, they are a lifesaver when Phils have a stink game. I just focus on the minor league plusses for the day.
On James, I don’t think he has to be a power guy or a speed guy. To me, he is more like a Garry Maddox (The Secretary of Defense). All-around player, does some of everything. Great CF play, hit for good avg, occasional power (12-15 per yr), lots of doubles, moderately good base stealer (20-30 per yr). To me that’s his profile from both a performance and physical attribute angle.
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sounds kind of like Victorino
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I think your standards for a legit starting prospect are a bit too exacting. Someone who did that would be more like a future number 2 or number 3 in the majors. For example, Joe Blanton at age 23 in AAA had H/9 of 10.2, K/9 of 7.3, and K/BB of 4.2. So he only hit one of your criteria but he has certainly been a quality starting pitcher in the majors for a long time (Career FIP of 4.21, 2 WAR per year the past three years, higher before that).
I would be pretty excited if Worley posted such a line in this, his age 23 year. That is to say, if he performed like Blanton did I would think he could also be a legitimate #5 or maybe #4 in the majors.
Either way, keeping walks down and Ks up are important indicators for him and this was a good start.
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If you feel a Starting pitching prospect should have K/9 of 9 and a K/BB of 4/1, in the high minors, you haven’t met Kyle Kendrick.
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I also like seeing the stats like that as well. Thanks!
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Now the starters designated so far, may be carried ahead, or may be part of some early season finagling, it will be seen.
LKW- James Murphy at 1B, Carlos Perdomo at 2B, Jeremy Barnes at 3B over G. Mendez and S. Batts.
Murphy at 1B and kept at this low a level has been ragged on by some here, so not only is he a starter, HR in first game. Some people do not understand the inverse effect on luck their negative commentarty can have.
The younger Perdomo starting at 2B, from following some Spring Training stuff, looks like this will continue, given acceptable performance.
Barnes at 3B best for this right now.
Hopefully G. Mendez can supplant Murphy at 1B over the season.
Zach Collier LF, and Anthony Hewitt DH over Miguel Alvarez, G. Mendez, Batts
Maybe a platoon situation in LF, give a chance for Alvarez to supplant over time.
Hewitt has HR power, so they might stay the course, here, for the season. But might not be a shock for these 2 to be replaced performance based by end of season.
CLW- staying true to projections of late, and Savery might DH entire season, if trends continue.
RDG- Spidale starts in LF over Susdorf and Kennelly- interesting. Also Gosewisch over Kennelly at C. Have to see if this continues for the majority of games and such.
LVIP- expected alingment, as Rich Thompson starts in CF and Brandon Moss DH’s in DH game. non DH game maybe Thompson sits, and this situation awaits the expected placement of D. Brown here.
May be just early season finagling, but since most of these teams have new managers, may be an indication of who they like.
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“Some people do not understand the inverse effect on luck their negative commentarty can have.”
Uhhhhh, what?
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lol. So negative commentary now causes good luck.
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Well in that case… every prospect who ever wears the uniform of a Phillies affiliate is a bum and will never amount to anything! They all suck. Every last one.
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“If trends continue”??? Is ONE game a trend?
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Of course not. Nine innings, now that’s a trend.
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When do we expect Brown to return?
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Next April.
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From BA
High Class A Clearwater, Phillies: Low Class A Lakewood was one of the most fun teams in the minors for scouts to watch in 2010. Now that most of those players have graduated to the FSL, the show has moved to Clearwater, with a few new twists. Righthander Jared Cosart walked four batters in six innings, but he didn’t allow a run, surrendered just two hits, struck out a pair and had an 11-1 groundout-air out mark. Going up against a rehabbing Brandon Morrow, Jonathan Singleton played left field and collected three hits, Jiwan James reached base four times (two singles, two walks) and then stole two bases, while Leandro Castro chipped in three hits and a steal. The best line of the night though came from Joe Savery, the 2007 first-round pick who’s converted from pitching to hitting. A two-way player at Rice, Savery reached based in all five of his trips to the plate, going 4-for-4 with a walk and a double as the Threshers’ DH.
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More from BA … chat this time
Jon (Philadelphia): Can you tell us a bit about the differences between Phillies pitching prospects Colvin, Cosart and May. Who do you think will have the best career? Thanks for the chat!
Jim Shonerd: All three can bring the heat, with Cosart running it up there at 98 mph. Colvin’s secondary pitches — a curve and change — are probably the furthest along at this point, while Cosart looks like the most likely to end up a reliever since he needs to develop his changeup and his health has been a concern.
Wade (Philly): How high do you see Brody Colvin moving up this year? The Threshers have 6 of the top 10 prospects in the Phillies system, are they going to run away with the title or will most of these guys be moved out of Clearwater before the playoffs start?
John Manuel: Obviously some of that depends on their performance, but the Phils aren’t necessarily too aggressive promoting guys. History of their handling of pitchers is more patient than that, so I’d see Colvin, Cosart, etc., sticking htere for most of the year on the pitcher’s side. Singleton, Valle, those guys could move quicker. Watch Cesar Hernandez at second, nice sleeper in that system and a guy the Phils love.
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Hey where is that chat? do you have a link?
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Here is the Link
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/chat/2011/2611549.html
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First of all, adding the box scores is awesome. Well done and much appreciated as it saves all of us nuts with nothing else to do with our time a lot of time. As far as commenting on different players, keeping in mind it is ONE game:
Hewitt: How much longer will the Phils allow him to take ABs away from other legitimate prospects? My guess is he is released by mid-season.
Savery: Great start! I hope he keeps it up and forces the Phillies to move him up the ladder. He was a great collegiate hitter and some scouts at the time were not sure if he would be drafted as a field player/hitter or as a pitcher. He definitely has the tools, although he is getting a late start.
Worley: Super job, if he continues to put up numbers like he did, he will give the Phillies a lot of flexibility w/Blanton.
Stutes: He just keeps on “keeping on”. He is pitching extremely well and at some point, due to injury, or poor performance, he may be in Philly sooner than later. Although hopefully not in place of Herndon, I think he (Herndon) has great upside potential. Besides having two nasty pitches, he seems to have a great demeanor for a relief pitcher.
Singleton: There is a reason he is ranked so high on everyone’s list of prospects. Let’s all hope he continues to develop into a legitimate ML player. I wonder if he will hit for power though, hopefully he will.
Pettis: For some reason his age is held against him. All he does is get people out, and very effectively I might add. His #’s last year were crazy good, but apparently that was attributed to being an “older player” in a younger player’s league while at Williamsport. However, he continue to put up solid #’s the short period of time he spent at Lakewood the last few weeks of their season. I think this guy is for real. Keep an eye out for him and see if he doesn’t end up at Reading by the end of the year.
Thanks for doing a super job with this site. It is a lot of fun and obviously someone does a lot of work to make it happen. All of us Phillies nuts appreciate it greatly!
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In general I agree with your notes but I think all of them are too aggressive. Hewitt should play as much as possible early on so he might have trade value or Phils can decide to make him a bench player. (I’d almost like to see him promoted since CLW is less crowded with OF).
Savery needs to stay in one league and at the main complex in CLW makes the most sense. He needs to make adjustments. He would have to be amazing for me to want him promoted. Let him gain confidence and get comfortable as a daily player. Then worry about promotions and possible move to RF.
I would like to see Worley consistently good at AAA. He just does not have much time there yet.
Stutes appears to have better control. Fewer BB makes him a much better pitcher. Since he is not on 40-man a roster move is needed to promote him.
Singleton could move up. He has a mature approach to hitting and likely will handle himself at higher levels. Valle has also played against older players (esp in Mexico and in ST this season) and done well. But catchers move slowly.
Pettis will have trouble cracking the CLW rotation. Maybe he gets bumped to CLW bullpen but his stuff seems more like fringe starter.
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Well, age is important when considering a prospect. Is it the be-all, end-all? No, but a guy signficantly older then his league dominating it is going to be taken with a grain of salt. And with good reason. That said, I like Pettis and want to see what he can do against age appropriate competition.
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Anyone know what the word is on Kelly Dugan? Day off, extended spring training etc.?
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EXT SP TR
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Jiwan James!…..I think he’s the Phillies breakout prospect this year. He should finally be healed from his previous injuries. He’s still young and not blocked by a superstar in CF. Its all about drawing walks and increasing his OBP, that will be his biggest hurdle, but drawing 2 in the first game is a start.
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I don’t know what to think about savery… here’s what I will say, if he gets bumped to AA this year, maintains a .300+ average with a .390 OBP and .470 Slug he goes from fringe prospect to legit to me (Top 20 prospect on the phillies). Some would argue that for a prospect so old at AA to put up those numbers is nothing special… i beg to differ, this is the first time in his career he’ll be getting a full year to hit, and recieve professional instruction. His upside is only marginally hampered by his age IMO due to this and I fully believe if given the opportunity, a “legit” prospect in his shoes will get significantly better…. I admit it’s the exception and not the rule, but needless to say, i’m extremely excited about him this year and easily the most excited i’ve been since the day he was drafted.
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Hey we wanted Savery to be the next Hamels…oh well…but if he can be the next Ross Gload that would be pretty good!
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I’m more optimistic then that… I think his upside is Raul Ibanez (3% chance)
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Ibanez might be his upside, but Gload would be a very nice result
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I’ll take 3% chance of Raul Ibanez and 25% chance of Ross Gload. I think he might be a netter fielder than Ibanez.
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Ibanez is playing a pretty darn good LF so far for a guy in his late 30’s. His arm isn’t much to write home about but he reads the ball pretty well off the bat and gets to more balls than I expect him to.
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I did not disparage Ibanez. He’s doing a good job. Just saying I think Savery might be more athletic with a plus arm. Not necessary to look for bad stuff that is not there in posts.
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The Savery stuff is encouraging, to be sure, but let’s let him get a week of A ball under his belt before we start promoting him to reading or assigning percentage chances to his turning into Raul Ibanez. That said, and in completely contradictory fashion, I am very excited about 3 Singleton hits against Morrow and others.
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You do realize, while he’s only a game at A ball, he was pretty good in 50 AB’s last fall in AAA… .348 .348 .478 (admitably no walks…) … this isn’t COMPLETELY out of no-where… especially since he moved down so far… in all honesty, he should bat better then that AAA line this year (for the whole year) if he’s for-real.
What I’d really like to see is 15-20 HR power potential… with the average and some walks… but we’ll see…stranger things have happened.
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i would like to see them move savery to 3b. he certainly has the arm and if you can field 1b i don’t see why you can’t field 3b. he would fill a real need position for us if he can hit.
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He’s a Lefty.
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good point. i didn’t think of that. makes it really difficult.
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I suggested that last year– apparently there has only been one lefty third basemen to play in the MLB in the past decade and he wasn’t very good.
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Who cares, if we are turning a pitcher into a hitter why not play a lefty at third base. Or maybe teach him to throw right handed after he’s done figuring this hitting thing out…
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Hmm . . . Might be the single most bizarre suggestion I have seen. Good job. The mind spins.
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Excited about Worley #1. Should be in Philly now but probably will be before the end of the year as I’m sure Blanton will get traded at some point.
Good to see Singleton with 3 hits. When your highest ranked hitter jumps out strongly that is a good sign.
Of the newer guys I thought Hollands stood out.
Savery will eventually play in the bigs but not any time soon.
A hitter that can pitch in a pinch is enticing to a lot of teams.
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It sounds enticing and I would enjoy seeing him do it, but I think almost every team has already determined that a pitcher/hitter is not much benefit. I do not know any NL teams who consider a pitchers’ hitting ability when determining roster spots. I think Savery has proved he could only pitch in ‘game-over’ situtations and I’d rather just have Valdez try to throw an inning if necessary.
The fact that Savery is a lefty might help him as a possible 2nd loogy type but his stuff does not appear capable of shutting down good lefty hitters either. I am surprised Micah Owings has not been converted to a position player? He is the best hitting pitcher I have seen in the last decade (career .861 OPS).
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The 2008 & 2009 drafts look better and better each month that goes by.
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On philliesphans.com, I generate a post with the starters and links to box scores before any of the games are played. Of course, the links have no information until the games start. It’s really neat to be able to keep track of your favorite minor leaguers in almost real time.
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Not a lot of walks drawn… especially in Lakewood.
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FYI – Bastardo has six straight Ks tonight. Wow!
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What happened to Galvis tonight?
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HBP–rumor is that it’s precautionary, but you never know.
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Turned away from a pitch and was hit in the back of the helmet. Parent then put the steal on and he was thrown out trying to steal second. Freddy was then taken out of the game to start the next inning.
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Clearwater beat Dunedin tonight basically with good pitching and very good defense. The play of the night was again Hanzawa, a diving backhand catch of a fly ball down the left field line. Hernandez had 2 very nice plays and Mattair also, the second starting DP in the 5th with runners on 1st and 3rd. Pettibone was good tonight, giving up only 3 hard hit balls, one was turned into an out by Mattair, one off the RF wall but held to a single by Castro and a booming double in the 5th. Brighthouse Field doesn’t have a gun so couldn’t tell how hard he was throwing but of his 6 Ks 3 were with his FB and 3 with his offspeed stuff. Castro really crushed his homer after Savery got on with a swinging bunt. Hanzawa’s hit was of the same variety while Singleton’s RBI single was a well hit ball while his 1st hit was more of a blooper. Valle’s hit was a nice line drive to left while Hernandez still hasn’t hit any balls very hard. I’ve uploading more video on youtube under the title “Threshers 2” but its still uploading so if you can’t find it give it some time, it should be up by 11pm.
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Pettibone keeps his hot streak from the end of last year going.
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Looks like our hottest prospect so far is Antonio Bastardo. 3 2/3 IP, 9 strikeouts. Six consecutive K’s tonight.
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and zero days on the DL!
As long as he stays healthy, I have a lot of confidence in him, and not just as a loogy.
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All swinging and mostly at stuff out of the zone. His pitches must be really hard to pick up – that Braves lineup is usually pretty disciplined.
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Bastardo looks great.
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In Pettibone’s last three starts including the two in the SAL playoffs he is 3-0 giving up only two runs on 10 hits, striking out 20 and walking 2 in 17 innings. That’s a nice WHIP. Interesting to see what Colvin, May and Rodriguez do.
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the big ? will be .. when Savery keeps on hitting.. does he go to AA? If so what happens to Rizz? Does Rizz get bumped to AAA?
I have no idea what his personality is…but I wonder if Savery could be a good guy to have around the young prospects.. he has some pitching experience and also as a top prospect shows them that success is so fragile..
Is Savery athletic enough to play 3rd? That would take a lot of learning.. but I wonder if he always played 1st merely because he pitched.
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Lefthanded
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a left handed third baseman.
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The only player to play more than 10 games at third base in his career born in the last 100 years was Mike Squires. (A standard of just a single game gives us Mattingly, Terry Francona and Mario Valdez.) It just doesn’t happen.
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forgot he was LH… thanks
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fyi.. tickets available for the bleclaws doubleheader today.. game 2 is Biddle’s Lakewood debut
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They rained out yesterday. Are they moving the whole rotation back or skipping yesterday’s pitcher?
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From BleuClaws Blog:
“Here in Lakewood, a double-header today with David Buchanan throwing game one for Lakewood and Jesse Biddle throwing game two.”
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Bastardo is yet another example of how long it takes to develop pitching and how some fans can dismiss a guy prematurely. His command was not great his first couple years, but he is settling in. Now he just has to stay healthy. Gavin Floyd is another young pitcher message boards gave up on.
(Not saying that most posters here did not appreciate Bastardo’s potential, but 3 or 4 years ago he was considered a fringe prospect on some boards, or by some posters, somewhat because of his age, some for command issues, some for injury, but others questioned his stuff. My point is, if the guy has the lively FB or another great pitch, he’s worth the investment and often pays off a few years down the road. Patience is the key with these guys.)
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Relievers just pop up out of nowhere. In 2009 the Dodgers had a catcher with 5 years experience and a career .647 OPS. Now Kenley Jansen is one of the better relievers in the league. I don’t think Bastardo was ever unfairly rated. He was a risk and for the most part his rating reflected that.
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Bastardo has always seemingly been devalued on this board in comparison to other pitchers in the organization. Even in 2008 and 2009 when he had great numbers and was still starting, he always seemed to be described like he is a mirage.
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Bastardo- the party line on here – when he began rising through the minors- “he only throws like 88,89″, etc. Then, he gets in MLB in a start, I recall, hits 95 with regularity, and some say ” well he pumped up with adrenaline, but he can’t maintain, will be injured soon” , etc. Accurate information is hard to come by, and stuff less than accurate is often taken as fact, depending on who says it and the conviction with which it is said.
And what was the minor league message board when Gavin Floyd was on the rise.
Left-throwing 3rd baseman? On a bunt, they can not simply throw to 1st or another base,but may have to as much as, stop-turn-set-throw, or somesuch, and many would find that enough time to avoid being throwed out.
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He’d be able to guard the line like a champ, though!
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Wait a second . . . .
Gavin Floyd thoroughly sucked at various times when he was in the minors. I went to Scranton game and he was not only bad, he struggled to hit 90 MPH on the radar gun. He was never going to make it the under glare of the Philadelphia spotlight and I’ve never missed him as a player.
Aside from injuries, Bastardo cruised through the Phillies minor league system with high strikeout totals and very good ERAs.
What’s the comparison with Floyd? I don’t get it and I certainly don’t see it.
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Some players take longer to develop than others. Floyd was bad for us but he eventually got his act together and he is a solid starter. Bastardo has had issues in the past but now he looks good. Also how could you not miss Gavin Floyd? We gave him up (along with Gio Gonzalez) to have Freddy Garcia pitch horrible for about a month.
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He is exactly that and nothing more … a solid starter. His career winning percentage, ERA, WHIP & K/BB are all worse than Joe Blanton’s. If Floyd had developed into what he is now in Philadelphia, he would have been considered a disappointment.
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Only because he stunk it up early in his career. Past three years, he’s been better than Blanton, not to mention cheaper. Not complaining about Joe, but Floyd’s done well, enough that we can regret giving him up for essentially nothing. Yeah, maybe they would’ve had to trade him eventually, but they probably could’ve gotten something better back.
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Reading and Clearwater-
Both starters Hyatt and Petitbone O.K. with 5 IP 6 K.
DeFratus pitched final inning and looks like he was bombed with 3 ER, 3H, BB.
Galvis injury- not exactly he was HBP and removed from game. After HBP was caught stealing, committed error in defensive half of that inning, and was removed in the inning after that. The guess- residual dizziness.
Once might be an accident, twice is a trend. 2nd game for Spidale in LF for Reading. Kennelly started in RF in lieu of Mitchell.
CLW- Joe Savery played 1B and 2-4 , so BA lookin’ good. Gump at DH, Ruf sits.
Still no hits for Cesar Hernandez, and Hanzawa at SS, Mattair at 3B, not hitting much either. Give them a solid month of play, and maybe the too low placement of Jeremy Barnes thing is no longer an issue. But, like it was said, maybe they are there for defense ,in the aid of a promising pitching staff. But if all lag after a due course, who’s defense will keep them around , and who will be offensively demoted , and what is the ratio.
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huh?
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Friday night’s stats
1. OF – Domonic Brown (Lehigh valley) – DNP
2. RHP – Brody Colvin (Clearwater)- DNP
3. OF – Jon Singlteton (Clearwater)- 2 for 3 with an RBI and a BB
4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – DNP
5. RHP – Trevor May (Clearwater)- DNP
6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – 2 for 4
7. LHP – Jesse Biddle (Lakewood) – DNP
8. RHP – Vance Worley (Lehigh valley) – DNP
9. OF – Tyson Gillies (Reading) – DNP
10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Reading) – 1 IP, 3 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- DNP
12. 2B – Cesar Hernandez (Clearwater) – 0 for 4
13. OF – Domingo Santana (Clearwater) – DNP
14. RHP – JC Ramirez (Reading) – DNP
15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Lakewood) – DNP
16. RHP – Jon Pettibone (Clearwater) – 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 6K
17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – DNP
18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – 0 for 4 with a run
19. 2B – Harold Garcia (Reading) – 1 for 4 with a 2B, 1 R and 2 K’s
20. RHP – Kevin Walter – Season hasn’t started
21. RHP – Colby Shreve (Lakewood) – DNP
22. RHP – Phillippe Aumont (Reading) – DNP
23. RHP – Michael Schwimer (Lehigh valley) – DNP
24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – 2 for 4 with 2 runs and an RBI
25. RHP – Austin Hyatt (Reading) – 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 3 BB and 6K
26. OF – Leandro Castro (Clearwater) – 1 for 4 with a 2-run HR and a K
27. OF – Miguel Alvarez (Lakewood) -DNP
28. OF – Kelly Dugan – Season hasn’t started
29. RHP – Josh Zeid (Reading) – DNP
30. RHP – Percival Garner – Season hasn’t started
Others:
SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – 0 for 0 (hit in the head by a pitch), almost committed an error on defense
OF – Joe Savery (Clearwater) – 2 for 4 with a run
OF – Delwyn Young (Lehigh valley) – DNP
RHP – Mike Stutes (Lehigh valley) – DNP
RHP – Scott Mathison (Lehigh valley) – DNP
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The Rizz was 3 for 4 today with a walk. All three hits were doubles.
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Sorry you missed the memo but we’re obsessing about Joe Savery this year…Rizzotti is so 2010.
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Almost laughable – Savery is already 2/2 today and now hitting .800; hot streaks are always fun…
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Savery home run over the high fence in right center in Dunedin. Can May make a 1-0 lead hold up?
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Clearwater is fun.
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What other names should I add to the nightly lists. any requests?
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Man Joe Savery is a hitter. The guy is killing it right now. 10 abs, 8 hits, 2 doubles, 1 HR. I know its early but he was even crushing the ball in spring training. How did our scouts and coaches miss this?
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They n didn’t. Joe was adamant about wanting to stay a pitcher. Development staff will not blow up a guy’s dream for fear of demotivating him.
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I think Savery may be to advanced for A ball lol
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So if J.Savery started out as a hitter could he have been devoloped and made it as a MLB firstbaseman or was his ceiling not that high as a hitter?
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He could have but his power ceiling isn’t all that high. He profiled a good contact/average power guy…basically not good enough offensively to be an MLB regular. Think “Greg Dobbs” for a recent example…or maybe Ross Gload.
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Cesar Hernandez was 0 for first 12, then got line drive hits in his last 3 ABs.
Jiwan James with 4 hits, 3 BB and 2 stls in 3 games.
Nice to see the premium prospects doing some damage.
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May pitched very well tonight, hitting 94 for 3 innings, a few 93’s the last 3 innings but mostly 92. Really labored in the 5th, walking his 1st batter on 5 pitches, giving up a well hit triple into the right center gap and a second triple on a late swing line drive into the RF corner off a 93 FB, made 26 pitches in the inning and ending it with a K(92FB). Didn’t expect him back but he did pitch the 6th and got them 123 but the last out was a deep fly ball to left that Singleton took in at the wall. Hernandez had 2 line drive hits, his third was a easy ground ball to 1st, but the 1st baseman took his time going to the bag and Hernandez beat him there, very ugly play. Singleton had a bad night, 1st AB looked at 3 straight strikes(the picher Beck was really bringing it, a lot of 95s), one of his other K’s was with runners on and they brought in a lefty who got him swinging at a slider. James had a nice line drive single to go with a blooper while Valle really hit 2 hard hit balls but was robbed twice, once on a diving catch by the LF with runners on. But if you’ve seen the box you know the hitting star was Savery, all of his hits were well struck and one came off the lefty that made Singleton look bad. Nothing exceptional on defense except Hernandez snagged a low line drive in the 9th to double up the runner off 1st to get Friend out of trouble in the 9th. There’s a video of May on youtube under the title “Threshers 3”
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Ibanez did not make it to the Show until his late 20’s. Savery still has a shot. He is a better athlete than Rizz so he has that going for him.
The Phillies know Bastardo has a great arm. But he is small and the “prevailing wisdom” is that small pitchers do not hold up. Bastardo has gotten hurt a lot, but if he can mke it through a year healthy he will help in 2011. But he will have to switch to outfield – and you have to believe after he proves that he can hit, that that will be next on the agenda.
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This Savery start is fascinating, if he also goes 8 for his next 10, maybe they should bump him to Reading. Move Rizz to AAA, there is nothing offensively at AAA that should get in the way of keeping Savery and Rizz and Overbeck from getting the AB’s they need to determine what future potential they have, if any.
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Completely random, but I wish we’d signed this kid:
Andrew Susac has been a tough out all season and despite some contact issues over his past four games is showing scouts what they wanted to see coming in, which was a steady approach at the plate and a better swing to go with his defensive prowess and solid-average power.
“He’s the best player I have seen this year,” an area scout commented. “I have to look awfully far in to see something I don’t love. (He’s a) very solid defender with plus physical attributes and he’s really shown he can hit, too.”
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A lot of the pre-season mock drafts have Susac being drafted in the range of the Phillies 1st round supplemental pick. They may have a chance to draft him again.
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I agree Ketch. He played well last year at the end of the year. This year his stats are very good but it looks like he broke his hamate bone like Brown did. Susac plans to play threw it and have the surgery after the College W/S. I don’t know how wise that is. Could he do more damage and essentially ruin his career?
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Well, it wasn’t from lack of trying. The Phils pushed hard on him but he was committed to going to school.
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Biddle and Colvin are scheduled to go on Sunday.
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There’s a lot to be excited about right now. On Singleton – he’s young and is moving up the ladder quickly, he’ll probably have some games where he looks great and others where he just flails away. He has a superb swing – superb – I am not worried about him.
On May, 94 is very good velocity this early in the season. If he can get to the point where he is sitting between 93-96 in mid-season, he becomes a very attractive prospect. For anyone who has watched him pitch, does he have late, upward, movement on his fastball, like Roy Oswalt? His strikeout numbers suggest a FB that moves and darts. If so, his upside is pretty significant. Maybe a very good #2.
As for Savery, what can you say? I expected him to be a competent hitter, but the power is a bonus. If this weren’t his first year as a full-time hitter, I think you’d be seeing him in the outfield from time to time. God knows he has the arm to do that.
By the way, Bob Brookover wrote a nice little article on the Phillies’ prospects and there was an article on Brown. The one thing that left me a little uncomfortable was the suggestion in one of the articles that Worley, Francisco or Brown would be traded at the deadline. I certainly hope not.
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I doubt they trade Brown this year. They will be able to replace Ibanez with him, at low cost. Worley being traded at the deadline makes sense. Teams always like to take major league ready pitchers in dead line deals. Francisco’s HR totals may make him a desirable piece.
With the payroll estimated at 172million and the luxury tax starting at 179m, I’m not sure they have the room to make the big trade this year.
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May’s fastball looked mostly straight to me, maybe some downward movement if any at all. Check the video :Threshers 3″
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Don’t no where else to ask this but did anyone notice Julian Sampson got released thursday afternoon? Didn’t realize he had fallen so far so fast. Does anyone no what happened?
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Sampson was a starter in CLW in 2009. He did not perform well. In 2010 he was shifted to a reliever @ Williamsport. His ERA was nearly 5. His Ks ticked up but I think he got caught in the numbers game. He needed to jump back to CLW but he wasn’t ready. There might have been some other things but performance looks like a strong culprit.
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