Double Trouble

Transactions

Two Phils relievers went down today to injury, JC Romero with a left forearm strain and Chad Durbin with an arm strain as well, both were placed on the 15 day disabled list. 

Called up were from Lehigh Valley were Tyler Walker, who may not have even arrived in Charlotte to play for Lehigh Valley prior to his recall back to the big club and Andrew Carpenter.  Carpenter , 24, should take the role of long reliever as he is obviously stretched out and has pitched very well in Lehigh Valley, going 8-2 with a 2.75 ERA in his 17 starts at AAA.  Interesting to speculate about who may come up to Lehigh Valley to fill Carpenter’s rotation spot as it appears he will miss several trips through the rotation with his recall.

35 thoughts on “Double Trouble”

  1. It will be very interesting to see Carpenter again. I wasn’t impressed his first time up but he’s obviously pitched well at LV since then and seems highly motivated to show every one he belongs in the bigs.

    Like

  2. My guess would be savery simply due to age. Him or Drabek would be the logical choice to take Carpenters spot but both could probably benefit from a little longer seasoning in AA.

    Perhaps Naylor or Garcia to fill the AA void.

    Like

  3. I want to see Drabek in AAA. He just knows how to get it done, at every level.

    I think Savery needs to refine himself still at AA. Joe has made significant improvements this year and has reestablished himself as a middle-to-upper tier pitching prospect.

    However, I could invision a situation where Drabek gets innings at AAA and then is shut down before the seaons ends to preserve his arm. This would lead to Savery getting called up for a few starts. Any thoughts?

    Like

  5. Glen,

    It could work – save his arm and keep the innings down by inserting him into the pen. I’m not sure if the organization wants to head down the road right now though. I’m sure once the Halladay deal/no deal happens, we’ll have a better sense on where guys may end up.

    Like

  6. Drabek to the Phils bullpen??? He was in the NYPL this time last year. I agree that you probably want to limit his innings at some point, but geez, that’s awfully aggressive to move from Class A to the majors in one year.

    Like

  7. I’m really happy for Carpenter. He was getting overlooked and deserves this chance. Long relief is a perfect way to break in without too much in expectations.

    Like

  8. The minor league department seems to have the starters on a 100 pitch count per start. Roadcap pulled Drabek after 8 innings and 94 pitches last night. Hernandez at Williamsport was going for a 7 inning no hitter the other night and went well over 100 but that was a special circumstance and in his next start he was lifted early after only four innings. I would be shocked if they shut Drabek down based on innings pitched. Drabek has 9 more starts left in the rest of the regular season plus Reading has a chance for two best of 5 playoff series as they are fighting two other teams for second place in the EL South for the final playoff spot. So Drabek has the potential for 1,000 or so more pitches and 70 or so more innings this season if he is not traded or called to the Show in Sept.

    Like

  9. Apparently, the organization has said Drabek is not untouchable. So we might see him moving in the next few days.

    Like

  10. Any chance that Carpenter starts tonight. I did not check out when his last start was but with the rain they may want save Hamels

    Like

  14. unknown scout – you missed pat burrell’s point. savery is regressing to normal. he has been lucky lately, which accounts for the differents in his era and fip.

    Like

  15. Savery 8 earned runs in four innings tonight but the good news is he had a base hit to right. Time for the pitching experiment to end.

    Like

  16. I wonder how Savery’s velocity would tick up out of the BP? He might be a good reliever with a better fastball. It’d help offset his other stuff a bit more like he did before the arm issues in college.

    Like

  22. Gose maybe he knew more than the scouts, when he said he didn;t want to pitch, almost at three hundred and still a baby.

    Like

  23. I’ve really been most impressed with Gose more than any prospect this year. He was supposed to be ridiculously raw, but is putting up numbers that rival Tim Beckham’s the number 1 pick in one of the toughest home parks in the minors. 54 steals is flat out ridiculous.

    Like

  24. There must be two Drew Carpenters. The guy who retires the side with ease in the AAA all-star game and the other guy who occasionally pitches for the Phillies and seems to struggle with, well, everything. Seriously, he’s done so well at AAA that there must be something to him. But every time I see him pitch he lacks substantial velocity (only about average) and command and the movement on his pitches is good, but not exceptional. Perhaps it’s just a case of the jitters.

    Like

  25. Really, really short season for Romero. He only had about a year to get in optimal shape for an already suspension shortened season.

    Like

  26. Gose intrigues me too. If the Phillies manage to keep him, Taylor and Brown and played them in the same outfield I think it would be the fastest outfield with the strongest arms in MLB history.

    Like

  28. Calling up Walker makes sense; he had a 1.60 or so ERA with the Phils. It is harder to understand why they start a guy in AAA (Carpenter), then bring him up the the majors and throw him in in relief. If they want to experiment with him in relief, you’d think that they would do it first at the minor league level. Meanwhile, Charlie is left with only one lefty in the bullpen; deja vu all over again.

    Like

  30. I know we value our prospects on this site, but let’s look at the facts. AA left-handed hitters are hitting 97 points higher against Drabek this season than major league left-handed hitters are hitting against Halladay. If Toronto is willing to accept Drabek as a centerpiece of a Halladay deal, we should do it quickly before they change their minds!

    Like

  31. Not bringing up Escalona in this situation really says a lot about how he’s been pitching lately.

    I’m also surprised they didn’t bring up Taschner.

    Like

  32. Multiple comments on multiple threads that we overvalue our own prospects. I think this effect is exagerated. A lot of us liked Howard and Utley, but I think 99% of us underestimated what they would achieve. I know I saw Hamels’ talent, but doubted his health and stamina and certainly never expected a year of the quality he turned in last season. I think we all badly underestimated what Kendrick would achieve when he was called up a few years back. Of other guys on the current team who came up through the farm for at least a season, both Rollins in past years and Victorino this year exceded what I recall even their most enthusiastic boosters predicting for them. I saw Ruiz at Reading and never thought he would be the Phillies starting catcher. Did anybody expect as much as we’ve gotten from Happ the past roughly 12 months? Admittedly, many touted guys, especially pitchers, don’t make it, but that is often due to injury, rather than talent/development. Drabek could be hurt tonight and never pitch in majors, but so could Halladay. Injury is no respecter of past success or ceiling, and often a function of either total mileage on arm or increase in pitches thrown year to year. I think we overestimated Burrell when he was in the minors, as well as Floyd and Gio. But of the top prospects not knocked out by injury, I think we underestimated as many guys as we overhyped.

    Like

  33. I think everyone in baseball overestimated Burrell. He was a #1 overall pick out of a top school and one of the best college hitters in recent draft history when he was drafted. If anything, he underachieved in his career.

    Floyd panned out, just not with us.

    Like

  35. Floyd is doing well now, but I still rank him as a guy who underperformed expectations and predraft scouting reports. He was a better prospect than Hamels, Drabek, Knapp. He had perhaps the best curve to enter the Phillies farm in decades and our pitching coaches foolishly didn’t let him use it and it atrophied for a time. Floyd should be our ace today. He is the fairly rare case of a pitching prospect who flames out not due to injury. Separation from Philly seems to have resurrected his career.

    Like

Comments are closed.