A review of my Top 30

I’ve been meaning to take a look at my top 30 rankings from this past winter, so I suppose now is as good a time as any. I’ll just give a brief sentence on each, and whether I think their stock is up, down, or unchanged. This isn’t my current top 30 ranking, I’m not moving anyone around from my prior ranking, just giving a brief comment on each guy. So, here goes, check below the fold…

1. Carlos Carrasco, RHP – Carrasco’s peripherals have far outpaced his raw ERA. He’s sporting a 4.97 ERA but only a 3.84 FIP. A 1.36 WHIP isn’t exceptional, he’s also been HR prone (13 in 108 IP), but he’s still striking out a batter per inning and still has time on his side. With the strength in the system, STOCK DOWN.

2. Lou Marson, C – Marson got off to a real slow start after coming back from Philadelphia, but he’s hitting .356 since June 1. The power is still non-existent (only 4 XBH since June 1, all 2B), but he’s drawing walks. As with Carrasco, the guys behind him have pushed his STOCK DOWN

3. Kyle Drabek, RHP – Its been a big year for Drabek, who is now fully recovered from Tommy John surgery and surging up every prospect list around. His peripherals back up the ERA, the only red flag at this point is the innings pitched; after throwing only 54 innings last year, he’s already doubled that total this year with 114 IP and counting. I think he’s the best prospect in the system, so STOCK UP

4. Jason Donald, SS – As much of an up year as its been for Drabek, its been an equally down year for Donald. He didn’t make the big club out of spring training, then put up a .616 OPS at AAA before suffering an injury. The problem for Donald is that he’s 24 now, turns 25 in September, and needs to get back on track fast. 2009 is looking like a lost year, which means its hard to figure out exactly where he fits in next season and beyond. STOCK DOWN

5. Dominic Brown, OF – Brown was on his way to the predicted breakout campaign before hurting his hand, but he’s back healthy now, and figures to finish this year as one of the best prospects in the pitcher friendly Florida State League, and one of the more exciting OF prospects in all of the minors. His .908 OPS in the FSL is outstanding, and he’s done everything you could have asked for this year, including hit for power and steal bases. His stock was already high, but its even higher now. STOCK UP

6. Michael Taylor, OF – Taylor cemented his status this season by destroying AA pitching and helping to silence some of his critics. Some still question his ultimate big league power because he has a very level swing plane, which might indicate more doubles than home runs, but its quibbling at this point. He’s a physical specimen with great tools, and appears close to big league ready. When that time comes is to be determined. STOCK UP

7. Travis D’Arnaud, C – Travis got off to a real slow start this season, but has turned it on of late. He’s hitting .327 since June 14th, while also showing some power, adding 13 doubles, a triple, and 2 home runs. He seems to be on track, and is still where he should be considering his age. STOCK UNCHANGED

8. Zach Collier, OF – Collier has really struggled at Lakewood, posting a .595 OPS in 321 PA’s. He does have 23 XBH, but hasn’t hit a home run, and he’s also struggled with the strikeout, fanning 79 times in those 321 PA’s. Time is on his side, but its been a very disappointing debut. STOCK DOWN

9. JA Happ, LHP – Happ, who started the year in the pen, has proven to be the Phillies most reliable starter this season with the struggles of Cole Hamels. As has been pointed out, he’s somewhat outperformed his peripherals, and he’s still home run prone. If he controls the walks, he should still be more than fine because he’s able to miss bats. We’re not looking at a Kyle Kendrick situation. NO LONGER ELIGIBLE

10. Julian Sampson, RHP – My biggest miss this past offseason. I had high hopes for Sampson, and while I still do, its almost impossible to call this year anything other than a big disappointment. He’s still young, he still has a big arm, but he’s obviously got a lot of work to do, and hes now doing that work in the GCL. Not good. STOCK DOWN

11. Vance Worley, RHP – I was aggressive with Worley’s ranking, and he rewarded me early, but he’s now run into a wall. His ERA has been steadily climbing, 2.22 in April, 3.69 in May, 4.85 in June, and 8.10 so far in July. He’s allowed 57 hits in his last 42 IP, and has walked 20 compared to only 23 strikeouts in that span. Starting him in AA was very aggressive, and overall I’m still pretty impressed with what he’s done. He may be going through a bit of tired arm, but could still finish the season strong. STOCK UNCHANGED

12. Joe Savery, LHP – This was a big year for Joe, who showed indifferent results last season. He’s sporting a 3.83 ERA at AA, but has a 4.76 FIP. He’s still walking too many batters (49 in 103 IP), his groundball percentage is down, and his HR are up. That said, he’s still finding a way. I’m not 100% confident, but it could have been worse so far. STOCK UNCHANGED

13. Jason Knapp, RHP – Knapp lit the world on fire in his first few starts, and even though hes hit some bumps in the road, he’s still showing one of the biggest arms in A ball, despite being only 18. Hes still a little rough around the edges, but he’s proven to be worth the investment. STOCK UP

14. John Mayberry Jr, OF – Mayberry has split his time between AAA and the majors, providing a RH bat off the bench. He’s had issues with contact, but he’s shown the raw power that we read about. The problem is, he’s now 25, and there isn’t a ton of projecting left, just wishcasting. He’s probably always going to swing and miss a lot, but as a 4th OF, he seems capable. STOCK UNCHANGED

15. Trevor May, RHP – I was aggressive with May, just like I was aggressive with Sampson 2 years ago, and he’s shown flashes of brilliance coupled with bouts of wildness so far in his Lakewood stint. 34 strikeouts in 29 innings is solid, 17 walks is too many, but the promise is still there. I’m really looking forward to watching May develop the rest of this year and next. STOCK UNCHANGED

16. Colby Shreve, RHP – Shreve, recovering from Tommy John surgery, still hasn’t pitched, but I don’t think that’s abnormal. He had surgery last May, so hes about 14 months out, and I’m sure its only a matter of time before he’s back. 2010 is going to be the first year to really evaluate what we have with Shreve. STOCK UNCHANGED

17. Mike Stutes, RHP – Stutes, who didn’t have the pedigree Worley did, was also sent straight to Reading, and like Worley, the results have been mixed. His 3.90 ERA looks a bit better than his peripherals, as he’s walked 42 and struck out only 70 in 99 IP, while also giving up 12 HR. He’s a flyball guy, so its reasonable to assume the home runs will always been an issue. But all in all, he’s held his own, and if anything, I’d bump him up a notch. STOCK UP

18. Edgar Garcia, RHP – Garcia hasn’t pitched this year, first for what appeared to be VISA issues, and now he’s on the disabled list. 2009 is beginning to look like a lost season, which is a shame, because I always kind of felt that Garcia was close to finally realizing his talent. STOCK DOWN

19. Justin De Fratus, RHP – De Fratus was moved to the bullpen this year, then moved back to the rotation, where he’s struggled. He has a 1.58 ERA as a reliever in 45 innings, with 46 K to only 6 BB, but an 11.15 ERA in 4 starts. His future is likely in the pen, and I assume that once that decision is made, he’ll be on the fast track. STOCK UNCHANGED

20. Jared Cosart, RHP – Cosart is in extended spring training rehabbing from a procedure of which I have no details on. Not sure when/if he’s going to pitch this summer, but this news is somewhat disappointing considering the bonus he was given. STOCK DOWN

21. Antonio Bastardo, LHP – Bastardo was putting up big numbers in Reading, then put up some big radar gun numbers in his brief ML stint. He showed issues with commanding his fastball and inconsistent secondary pitches, which back up the scouting reports on him. He’s now down with another arm injury, which derailed his 2008 season as well. The potential is here, but he still needs work, and the recurring injuries are a concern. STOCK UP

22. Drew Naylor, RHP – Naylor, repeating Clearwater, has been a mixed bag. He’s walked only 26 in 102 innings while allowing 8 HR, but he’s struck out only 68 and has allowed more than a hit per inning. At 23, his future might be the bullpen, but I suppose there is no need to move him there just yet. STOCK UNCHANGED

23. Anthony Gose, OF – Gose has been a mild surprise this year, showing off his blazing speed and leading the minors in stolen bases. His approach at the plate needs work, but he’s still extremely young and has plenty of time. He’s shown strides of late, posting a .385 OB% in June, and a .394 OB% in July, while also showing a bit more power. STOCK UP

24. Mike Cisco, RHP – Cisco, who has thrown only 60 innings at Clearwater, has shown positive signs this season. Prior to giving up 7 ER in 2.1 innings in his last appearance, he was looking at an ERA of 2.48 in 58 IP. He hasn’t missed a ton of bats (40 in 60 IP), but hasn’t walked an alarming amount either (11), and has a 1.31 GO to AO ratio. Hes not a big time prospect, but is an intriguing arm. STOCK UP

25. Sebastian Valle, C – Valle looked overmatched at Lakewood, posting a .635 OPS in 143 AB, but is off to a flier at Williamsport, posting a 1.186 OPS in his first 68 AB, with 14 XBH and 8 BB. He may not have been ready for full season ball, and it also might not have helped him having to share time and not get in a rhythm. He turns 19 in a few days, so he’s still well ahead of the curve.

26. Travis Mattair, 3B – Its been another rough season for Mattair, who is hitting only .245/.346/.338 while repeating Low A. He’s drawn a ton of walks this year (43 in 302 AB), but he’s done little else, and has hit only 2 HR despite a very imposing 6’5, 210 lb frame. He doesn’t turn 21 until late December, so its not as if he’s teetering on non-prospect status, but at some point the light has to come on. Hopefully. STOCK DOWN

27. Brad Harman, 2B – Harman showed flashes for the first two months, but on the whole, has slipped closer to non-prospect status this season, posting a .223/.288/.342 line in AA and really cratering in June and July. At only 23, he’s still young enough to have some sort of career in the majors (I mean, look what Eric Bruntlett has done for himself), but things don’t look good right now. STOCK DOWN

28. Anthony Hewitt, 3B – Hewitt generated a ton of buzz, both positive and (mostly) negative since being taken in the first round last year. Deemed unready for full season ball, we had to wait to see him at Williamsport, and as expected, its been a mixed bag. 10 of his 22 hits have gone for extra bases, including 3 HR, but he’s still striking out at a high clip (29 in 98 AB), and not walking (5 in 98 AB), so really not a whole lot has changed. He has big time raw power, and great raw tools as a whole, but hes a long way from unlocking it. The big problem is that he’s already 20, and unlike most high school prospects, he’ll have to be placed on the 40 man after 4 seasons in the minors, not the usual 5, because he was 19 when he was drafted. Still, the tools are there, its just going to be a work in progress, and a guy we shouldn’t really be spending a ton of energy worrying about at this point, one way or the other. STOCK UP

29. Freddy Galvis, SS – The Phillies aggressively pushed Galvis to Clearwater, despite him being only 19, and he’s continued to hit for a respectable average while not doing a whole lot else offensively. His glove is his calling card and likely always will be. STOCK UNCHANGED

30. Michael Schwimer, RHP – Schwimer is off to a nice start in Clearwater, and his ERA doesn’t tell the story. He’s at 3.79 in 40 IP, but has a FIP of only 2.41. His 48 K and 12 BB in 40 IP is solid work. I except he’ll see the major leagues in a few seasons, and looks like a great mid-draft selection. It also doesn’t hurt that he’s now contributing to this website. STOCK UP.

There ya go. Just some brief thoughts. I’ll have more thoughts on my rankings at the end of the year.

27 thoughts on “A review of my Top 30

  1. Good stuff.

    My biggest risers: Anthony Gose, Valle, Trevor May and Jason Knapp.

    Fallers: Carrasco, Sampson, Naylor.

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  2. Gose, is an amazing defensive prospect. He has plus speed and great potential, but ultimately he could make it on defense alone. Going to some of the lakewood games, this guy has an amazing arm, blazing speed, and oh yeah… as an 18 year old can hit a little bit. Gose is a serious prospect, STOCK UP!!!

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  3. Just shows how good list you had to start with, I can’t think of much to disagree with, though I’d probably leave Cisco as Unchanged and put Savery, Worley and D’arnaud as Down.

    an added column on who’d one have to consider for the list right now (other than recent draftees) might be interesting. Certainly Flande and Kennelly. Very possibly H.Garcia, J.Rodriquez, J.Sanchez, Escalona and probably a few others I’m not remembering

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  4. I have to seriously disagree on Marson for THIS team. The Phils have power to burn. Marson would provide linkage turning over the lineup,getting the pitcher into bunting situations,or eliminate the pitcher for the next inning. The fact that Ruiz can’t possibly hit unless they change his approach
    make Marson more valuable.

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  5. PP, thanks for the list. You might want to save this sort of thing for your year-end review, but I’m curious as to what your thoughts are for the system as a whole. There are certainly some serious risers, but some of the enthusiasm from last year’s draft probably should be tempered, considering the ambivalent status of Collier, Worley, Hewitt and others. From your feelings at the end of last season, as things have come in to focus a little more, would you give the Philly’s system a stock up, down or unchanged status?

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  6. Given the heights that Drabek, Taylor and Brown have risen to, you could argue the phillies have less mid-level talent then at the beginning of the year, but more top talent. To have 3 players in the top 25 whereas we had none last year, should be a clear indication of system STOCK UP!

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  7. Definitely looks like we’ve had more risers than fallers with our top guys

    Even Carrasco, he has disappointed somewhat this year, but 3.80 FIP, among the league lead in Ks while improving control and GB rate in AAA at age 22…if that’s a disappointing season I’ll take it

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  8. I still think Donald can function as a utility man at worst. He may not be the starting 3B we hoped for but he could replace Bruntlett next year and do just as well as him I’m sure.

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  9. Oh, and isn’t it crazy that although Marson and CC haven’t had terrible years (just slow starts in some cases), they’re pushed down to being the 5-10th best prospects based solely on what some other guys have done? It’s been an amazing year for Taylor, Brown, Knapp and Drabek. They are very exciting guys.

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  10. Might add Correa to the list of of players other than recent draftees that have seen a good boost in their stock. Some other guys that kind of worked their way onto the rader are Cloyd, Chapman, Monasterios, Jiwan James. Not neccesarily top 30 consideration, but they’re doing well enough to get some notice. Oh, and probably the highest riser of all, Andrew Carpenter, who didn’t even make the above list, and is now in my book at top 15 guy in our system.

    I think we’re 50 PROSPECTS deep. Try and do a top 30 and see how many guys you have to leave off….and hopefully there will be a few more HS signings in August to really make it interesting!

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  11. What about Tim Kennelly? Was able to watch Tim behind the plate and see his first home run in AA on Friday night: a no doubt about it line drive deep into the left field seats to the left of the .371ft. sign at Reading. Did not think he had that kind of pop. Or who would have guessed when the season started that Tim would lead all Phils at all levels with 27 doubles, three more than Shane Victorino. After three games at AA he has a two homers and a triple for a nice .1274 OPS. He has started every non pitching position except Center, SS, and 2B this season and still is hitting over .300. Gotta put him on the 40 man or risk losing him to Rule 5 this Fall.

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  12. PP Great reading thanks. On Savery I think his stock is up. So many of us buried him after last year at Clearwater that his numbers at Reading have to be a surprise.

    Now to toot my horn. I said Happ was our best prospect in your poll this winter. His makeup on the mound and his smooth delivery all add to his average stuff. I even compared him to Glavine and got ripped. OOOH I look good

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  13. Nice piece. Without doing further analysis or even double-checking the stats, my top 10 right now:

    Drabek
    Taylor
    Brown
    Carrasco
    Knapp
    Marson
    Gose
    Savery
    D’Arnaud
    Carpenter

    Great year for the system thus far. I can’t imagine too many teams have a better top tier of prospects than ours.

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  14. Like that Williamsport battery tonight of Way and Valle. Have a feeling they will be in the top 20 of prospects next year this time. In the first inning Way strikes out the side with that wicked change up to get out of a jam and Valle comes into the game hitting .382 with a .1186 OPS. He celebrates his 19th birthday on Friday.

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  15. well since you have no data on Cosart you must think it’s bad. He was throwing great until slight injury that was located behind his shoulder blade. They have high hopes and brining him on slowly.

    Has been throwing in bullpen with fastball still between 93-96

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  16. how can you RIP some prospect and not Hewitt?

    Stock up? I beg to differ with the cash that was given to hime.

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  17. Personally, I do think Hewitt’s stock is up. After last year it didn’t really have anywhere to go.

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  18. I understand. It’s what the club has decided to do. I dont expect him to get innings until next year.

    Lots of good talent in the system. Looking forward to many good years of Phillies ball

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  19. Good stuff. I think you have to give Savery a little more props though since he’s 12-2. He’s done a terrific job of making tough pitches when he needs to.

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  20. Steven Susdorf was 4-for-4 tonight and is now hitting .414 in 99 ABs at Clearwater. He needs to move up to Reading soon. When that happens he will be age appropriate for the level and I would think he would have to crack this list. The kid can flat out hit and there is always room on a major league roster for hitters.

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  21. Valle is a player who will always be a top prospect because he is such a “clutch” player. He did it last year to key the GCL playoff championship win and he is doing it again this year in Williamsport. His two out single drove in what turned out to be the winning run in the bottom of the eight in a 2-1 win tonight. He now has 17 RISP rbi’s in 21 games and leads the NY-Penn in hitting at .368. Plus he picked off a runner at first. Valle, d’Arnaud and Marson got to be three of the best minor league catching prospects in one organization in the MLB. Something gotta give sooner or later.

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  22. Do you find it troubling that of your top 30 our best infielder (of those still here) is number 28 on your list?

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