Prospect Grades: Hill and Dubee

Happy Friday everyone. I’m still not quite caught up, which means I’m going to have to limit it to two grades again today. However, tomorrow I will try and get a few more done, and I should be able to wrap it up by the end of next week.

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Hill, Garet, RHP (age 22) Grade = B-

The Phillies took Hill, a 4 year senior from Biola University, in the 24th round of the 2006 draft. Hill is a tall, lanky RHP, checking in at 6’5, 217lbs, and he had a nice debut at Batavia. In 47 innings, he posted a 2.49 ERA, allowing 39 H, 7 BB, and struck out 35. Hill’s numbers in college were pedestrian his freshman and sophomore seasons, but he put up a 2.10 ERA in 98.2 IP his junior year, and was starting to look like more of a prospect. However, in his senior season he fell again, posting a 4.15 ERA in 97.2 IP. Nevertheless, the Phillies took a gamble, and it might have been a good one. Because of his height, he’s able to throw on a downward plane, and that manifested itself in the 78 to 33 GB to FB ratio he posted at Batavia. Of his 17 appearances, only 4 were starts, so it appears the Phillies plan to use him as a reliever, which makes sense based on the logjam at Lakewood and Clearwater in the rotations. Hill’s peripherals suggested a higher grade, but due to his apparent role as a reliever, and the fact that he’s already 22, he gets a B-.

Outlook: In lieu of posting ceiling/floor/conclusion for guys now that we’re getting down to the bottom of the organizational ladder, I felt I’d just post a 2007 outlook and make some general comments. Hill will probably start at Lakewood in the pen, and could move quickly based on how well he performs. He could return to a starting role at some point if he continues to impress as a pro.
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Dubee, Michael, RHP (age 21) Grade = C

Dubee’s already made a name for himself to Phillies fans because he is the son of current pitching coach Rich Dubee. As the son of a pitching coach, people are always going to talk about your “feel for pitching”, and it makes sense. Dubee, who only turned 21 in January, was drafted 3 times, and finally decided the 3rd time was the charm after the Phillies went above slot to sign him. His debut was less than fantastic, as he struggled a bit at Batavia in his age 20 season. In 37.1 IP, he posted a 4.82 ERA, allowing 49 H and 15 walks compared to only 27 strikeouts. While his “feel for pitching” is no doubt mentioned as a strength, I have no idea what kind of stuff he actually has. I’m guessing he’s got the fastball/curveball/changeup mix, but judging by his numbers, he’s less than a finished product. Because he does appear to have quite a bit of upside, I went with a straight C, though numbers-wise, he could have drawn a C- at this point.

Outlook: Because of his last name and because the Phillies did overspend on him to keep him away from Tennessee, he’ll probably get a shot in the rotation at Lakewood. I can’t see him staying in rookie ball and going to Williamsport, but I could be wrong.

12 thoughts on “Prospect Grades: Hill and Dubee

  1. I can’t see Hill as a Grade B prospect. That would make him among our top prospects, which I don’t here anyone saying he is. He has good control of 4 pitches, but is basically an off-speed pitcher with a 90 mph fastball. Being a 4-year college guy and having 4 pitches he can throw for a strike gives him a rookie league advantage, but he looks like a guy doomed to fade. His K/inning rate is unimpressive. He looks like his only shot at majors is middle relief and those guys don’t use 4 pitches.

  2. Well, he might fall apart in 2007. But I’m grading on what he’s done, and what he might be able to do. If he pitches like he did in 2005 going forward, he could be a real solid arm. That said, I will downgrade him to a B-, I do need to factor the age in a bit more.

  3. Someone should let Garet know that there is an AWESOME pizza shop with his exact name right by Villanova University…

    I spent many a late night with a Chicken Parm sub studying for law school finals…

  4. Hill Looks to be doing much of the same this year. Ive played with him, and the reason i feel his senior year was off is b/c he didn’t throw his curve ball, tried to just use a slider. Hill, even at 22, is a serious prospect. I’ve faced guys like Garza and Valverde, not to say hes that good, but dont be surprized.

  5. Rich Dubee was my brother’s name good luck…Man I would love to have a Dubee Baseball autographed card. I have a Connie Mack glove he gave My granddad for Pro Bono Legal services for the Phillies 60 70 years ago

  6. How about mailing me James D Dubee an autographed ball card such an odd novelty and oddity or heck I’ll sign it myself
    James D Dubee

  7. google jim dubee and right close to the top of the jim dubee things is a blog about me writing music for a movie…scroll down i am playing a mandolin for the lyric writer to the music. James D Dubee one is a classmates web site or a reunion web site It will be above that one or below that one….Thanks:::: I lost my younger brother many years ago his name Rich Dubee

  8. you email me and i will give my post adress god bless you
    play good have fun.. James dubee

  9. A long time ago ca.1930-40 my grandfather J Ramond Dubee did legal work for the Phills. Then one day Connie Mack took a worn glove from the locker room and said take this it has seen its days. It wasn’t Mr. Macks glove but I here he had some clout with the team. The glove has been in a closet for all that time in the worn condition. I am going to send it to Cooperstown to see if they can give me the players name .It looks like his name is Ronnie or Rossie ? ?Sturicj ? Made by James W Brime Co Inc Boston Model A-5 Thumb and index finger gromets in fine shape but the glove has no webbing or rawhide holding the webbing in. There are no gromets on the rest of the fingers. This should date the glove to a certain degree. The family exists of Me my brother and my Mother she and we think it should go to a musium. If Cooperstown or another worthy place to rest this glove could Identify the man on the thumb then the story would be completed. Mr Dubee good luck with your carear and a ball with Me on it would really lighten my life. I will send a money order for a Philly steak and cheese and the cost of the shipping and handeling costs on a used baseball or card. I had a Wayne Terwiggy ball from Charleston Wv. and a Harmon Kilebrew ball 1954, a 2 generation card collection that burned in a fire. That would make anyone sad; mine from the 50s dads’ from the 30s’

    The music is me playing a tune that was in a mountain top removal awareness movieTitled [Rise up] The name James Dubee is filtering into your system. I want to watch you play some day… watch the ball and just hit it, it will make some a happy memory for a kid in the out field.in 40 years.Jim Dubee

  10. What is the Phillies postal address? I will lick the stamp if I find a James Dubee card. I will also send a news clip of James Dubee is on a mission to feed the hungry in other countries. 1976 article. My grand father US Supreme court lawyer was a good friend of Connie Mack and did free work for the Phills. Mr. Mack gave the glove to grand dad and after my dad passed; all the answeres to my questions passed with history.Guessing at the design of the glove I would guess 1933 to 1940 The Smithsonian or Cooperstown or Pha., should have it. The thumb name is creased but looks like Ronny Stuij or Ronny Stuey? A-5 at the base of the pocket. No grommets on fingers3,4,5 but gromets on index and thumb are there Brass button in tact cloth patch excellent shape stating James W Brime Co Boston genuine Horsehide Professional Model. At any rate I will be watching and hoping James Dubee will make Rich Proud. Does the organization have a section to show history and their stories?
    Truely good luck:
    James Dubee

  11. Have a good year.I will look for a Jim Dubee card and mail it to the organization I want an autograph. [ Of who else Jim Dubee }

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