Box Score Recap – 5-15-2013

Box Score Recap

Not a good line from Seth Rosin – made me take a closer look at his numbers. If he can’t strike as many guys out from the rotation, he’d better be getting a ton of groundballs. So far this year his GB%, according to First Inning, is only 40%. That’s not good for a guy with just a 16% K Rate. He may be headed ultimately to the pen where his stuff played more for strikeouts in 2011-2012, (25% and 27% respectively).

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130515

5-15-13 boxscores

71 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 5-15-2013”

  1. Hopefully Adam Morgan will be able to make the necessary adjustments. His past few starts have not been so hot.

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  3. I am really impressed by Severino Gonzalez so far. Making the jump from VSL to high A ball is pretty big and he is holding his own for sure. I wonder what the plan is for him though. Possibly drop him down to Williamsport when the season starts and let him go back to starting?

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    1. I was surprised to see him in another game. I thought the first game was him standing around and the team in need of a body. I think your guess about going to Wmsprt makes sense and I’d like to see him start a little bit. I guess it will all hinge on the draft. Who will be the #1 pick and who else gets taken? If we end up with a couple of starting pitchers, especially college guys, he may end up as a reliever or even go to GCL.

      Keep running him out there and maybe he stays in CLW.

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    2. Probably just let him stay in Florida and play in GCL. Gustavo Martinez is in the same boat I think.

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      1. Could be evaluating in game action to see about sending them north, but I’m with you, Murray – probably just extra men right now.

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      1. Mayo has them taking Dominic Smith 1B from Sierra HS. Smith reminds a lot of people of Jonathan Singleton. Crawford is also the nephew of Carl Crawford.

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            1. Plus, FO will need to do some long-term planning between positions for Crawford and Quinn.

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            2. How does Crawford sound like Hewitt part 2? Crawford is one of the best defensive SS in the country, and has the ability to stick at the position. Hewitt was a raw defender, who everybody knew would have to move. Also Crawford is a skilled player from California.
              It seems if the word tools is used in any sentence describing a prospect, that means something negative.

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            3. Just listening to his description makes it sound like Crawford is succeeding due to his athleticism. For example, he’s not a smooth defender. Just freakishly athletic. That sort of thing.

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      2. I would love for the Phillies to get the opportunity to select the top prep SS in the country, but I doubt he lasts that long. The top SS always seems to get drafted earler than expected, due to scarcity of true Shortstops.

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        1. interesting Klaw said something about Juco SS Tim Anderson. Former star basketball player,can freakin fly and is showing pop now. Wont be there in round 2 so if theyre going to do it theyll have to do it at 16. Seems like a project though.

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          1. When is comes to ss, the athlete is coveted, but there are no guarantees, you can always get the number one letdown in the last decade. The Rays thought Tim Beckham was going to be their guy for12-15 years, they took him number one overall. The rest is history.

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    2. Best available and if you have a lot of say catching prospect, you could always move one for a positon you need, but to reach is crazy.

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  7. Does anybody know what happened to Larry Greene, havent seen him in any box scores of late , and is Adam Morgan hurt or something ?

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    1. Greene has back spasms and was held out a couple days. Not sure when he’ll return. Morgan, I read somewhere, has been throwing his curve a lot more than he probably would. Likely indicates it’s something they’re working on that will be used less frequently once he gets it where they want it.

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      1. That’s quite welcome news about Morgan. Hopefully it’s the case, and hopefully his curveball improves as a result.

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  8. Halladay surgery a success: According to team physician Michael Ciccotti, Halladay “underwent debridement of his labrum and rotator cuff as well as removal of an inflamed bursa.” Ciccotti said in the statement that Halladay can begin a throwing program in six to eight weeks if all goes well in his rehab program, which will begin immediately.

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  9. Needs of the system would be foolish to be ignored when drafting is considered, IMO. If two-three players surrounding the #16 pick are in contention, the choice among them should be determined by which fills the most need to be filled.
    Yes, ALL picks carry the risk of mis-judgment by scouts. And during the first several picks the players’ skills are very comparable really making the choice very difficult as a prediction of success.
    Needful: always HS pitchers who can flame the ball through a strike zone, and a righty OFer w power…maybe from college who can fire up through the levels quickly.

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    1. I simply want them to take the player they feel has the best chance of becoming an all star, regardless of the position. They need to come out of this draft with a future all star, preferably with the bat and who could profile into a middle of the order hitter. That typically means a high school kid with huge upside but they always carry high risk also.

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    2. I don’t think any college player that will be available at pick #16 will shoot through the system all that quickly. Burrell was the number one pick and he didn’t come up to the bigs until part-way into his third year.

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    3. 1st round. Best player available. Too much money involved to reach for a position. And as Allentown already mentioned, by the time the pick is Major League ready priorities change and the composition of the major league team is different.

      If the draft were tommorrow, I would be happy with any one of the following:

      J.P. Crawford SS HS
      Jon Denney C HS
      Nick Ciuffo C HS
      Reese McGuire C HS
      Dominic Smith 1B/RF HS
      Phillip Ervin CF College
      Chris Anderson RHP College
      Trey Ball LHP HS
      Phil Bickford RHP HS

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      1. I understand the changing of the composition of a makeup of a team over a 3/4/5 year period. However, I would not dwell as heavily in the catching position as opposed to pitching or outfielders, or for that matter middle infield. With international signees Grullon, Rivero, Lino and also Numata all 4/5 years away, and Joseph, Rupp and possibly Valle two years away, the cupboard would appear to be adequately stocked.
        IMO, it would be a toss up between Crawford, Ervin then Trey Ball.

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        1. You would resist taking a catcher, because you have Grullon, Lino and Numata?
          For perspective: Either one of Denney, McGuire or Ciuffo will be either the organizations’ #1 or #2 prospect the minute they are drafted. Neither Grullon, Lino or Numata are top 25 talents in the sysytem.

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          2. Actually yes, if Ervin, Crawford or Ball are still on the board at 16th. Wheterh they are ranked as the Phillie’s system 1 or 2 is irrelevant. If they are HS catchers, they will not see the majors until 2017 at the earliest. And everthing has to fall just right. Plus, it isn’t first about offense with catchers Now a college catcher is different , ie Posey.

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            1. What you are saying makes sense if you believe Crawford, Ball and P Ervin are all better than Denney, McGuire and Ciuffo. If any one of those players is not better than the catchers, then you take the catcher. Period.
              Taking the lesser talent, because you have some low to mid level talent at a particular position doesn’t make any sense. It only makes sense if you truly believe a Phillip Ervin is a better talent than a Reese McGuire.

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            2. Do me a favor, list all the starting catchers in the major leagues who were drafted in the first round in the last 5/7 years?

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            4. Just looking at the current starting catchers that were drafted out of HS, doesn’t tell the whole story. Jason Werth, Bryce Harper and Will Meyers were drafted out of HS as catchers. So by using your theory, the teams that drafted them, should have passed on them, if they already had some ‘midling’ catchers in their systems.

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            5. Minor contention. Harper was a HS catcher who was move immediately. A HS catcher either needs the bat to play elsewhere or the glove to be able to carry him through the system while the defense catches up.

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            6. Additionally the history of high school catchers is really bad. Of the top 30 major league catchers this year by starts only 6 were drafted out of highschool.
              John Buck (1998)
              Joe Mauer (2001)
              Jarrod Saltalamacchia (2003)
              Derek Norris (2007)
              AJ Pierzynski (1994)
              Devin Mesoraco (2007)
              Plus Brian McCann (2002) who didn’t make the search due to injury

              There are definitely some catchers in the minors who have a chance to be something good some day. It is just really hard to keep the bat and defense together through the minors.

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            8. The point is and I will get to it in the high school hitter preview piece. If that is the case you aren’t drafting a catching prospect, you are drafting a bat. Not that those are bad picks but if you are drafting a player to be a catcher than it is a road littered with failure. If you are drafting a player because you think the bat is special then do it

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            9. No, the point is, you draft the best talent because in 4 years, when the player is ready to contribute, the situations have changed.
              Such as: Jason Werth and Will Meyers being moved to OF, or Chace Numata being moved back to middle infield, or Gregori Rivero being moved to 3B.
              2 years ago, 3 of the Yankees top 6 prospects were catchers. They traded one, and now they are thin at catching. In just 2 years.

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            10. Latins are making better catchers these days, then the American high schooler. They have numerous more games behind the plate then their American counterpart.

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        2. But, of these guys, who is playing well. Certainly not Joseph, Valle, or Rupp. Really only Numata. Grullon and Rivero likely 5-6 years away, if they arrive. Lino unlikely to arrive. A catcher taken at #16 should have a lot more talent than any of these guys.

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        4. I think all else being equal, you have to go with a guy you believe can stick at short. It’s just the hardest position to fill.

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    1. Don’t think so. There is talk of international picks being tradeable once they create that draft, but I’m pretty sure that US/Canada picks never have been.

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    2. Regular draft picks cannot be traded. I believe that teams that received extra picks for being low revenue teams can sell or trade those picks. I know that none of these extra picks are within the first round.

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      1. Utley was picked at #15 and was most of the way through year 4 before coming up to the Phillies. In that amount of time, priorities change. A minor league RF like RGJ or Cozens or Altherr could be up by then or a FA may be acquired.

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  11. Nick hanson. big dude not a lot of strikeouts. anyone see him pitch yet?? what kind of velocity and pitches does he throw. ty

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    1. Phoulballz has an interview up with him where he gives a little rundown of his pitches and his mentality.

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    2. He’s a really serious prospect at this point – Biddle and Franco are, to my mind, clearly the top two prospects in the organization at this point. What Franco is doing as a 20 year old is super impressive. Assuming his fielding is as good as advertised, I’d like to see him jumped to Double A when the the mid-season promotions occur. I’d think that Perkins would probably also be promoted and perhaps Altherr as well.

      If Amaro trades Franco to get another Hunter Pence type player or a 32 year old pitcher, I will scream.

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      1. That funny, was listening to wip about 8 days ago. and they asked if Phillies could get Norris I believe from Astros, and first name the writer said was yes for a package with franco. I was no way. amaro is scary to me. don’t trust him at all.

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        1. I know. There’s always discussion on the flyers boards about locking Paul Holmgren in a broom closet in the week leading up tot the trade deadline so he doesn’t trade 3 or 4 high draft picks to obtain a 38- year old ceneterman. I feel the same way with Amaro.

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        2. The mere thought of that trade makes me want to vomit. It would be a fireable offense (as if he hasn’t already had about 6 of those already – the timing of the Papelbon signing alone was probably independent cause for termination).

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    1. did same thing last year. Just failing to adjust once season gets going. Hewitt suffers from same thing.

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      1. Yes, once the season has been under way for a while, teams learn how to pitch him and he isn’t a good enough hitter to respond. Good glove but the bat just isn’t there. Perhaps he’ll learn to hit with more experience. Like Hewitt, he teases for a few weeks, but can’t sustain.

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  14. Couple positives from Lakewood: Tocci with 3rd double in 4 games. Good sign. Greene with no strikeouts in 3 straight games.

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  15. Today was not one of Miguel Nunez’ better games, but he got the win. I sense something happening at Lakewood. They are more confident. Players have overcome a sense of not doing well and are starting to win games. I like what Morandini does with them. He gives confidence. Being a pro is definitely something different for all of the players. They have to learn how to get better all the time. They see that everyone on their team has natural ability and that they have to push themselves to get better, whether it is developing new pitches or learning when to take a pitch and when to swing. It gets tougher at every level. Believe me, I think the world of anyone who has made it this far. Just some will make it to the majors and they are the best of a good lot, even the ones who ride the bench.
    Nunez and Hanson and Mecias are a new generation in A Ball. Maybe Brady will get that command he needs to throw the pitch exactly where the hitter can’t get a good swing. It is very difficult. You can see that Garner is getting it. I suspect that Colvin may continue to do better when he comes back from injury. It is a long haul. Congratulations to those who overcome all and make it.

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    1. To be honest, I never really judge prospects until they get to CLW. Guys at LWD and below are still (usually) very young and raw and working on a vaiety of different fundemental things while still getting used to full-time professional baseball. I just like to see them end the season better than they began it, or improve a single skill, etc…

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