58 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 29 April 2012

    1. I hope he’s opening more eyes than just the readers of this site. Like, the guys who decided he should be back in Reading this year.

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        1. Except there are some guys who do well at AA and not AAA. AAA is still a different challenge. No need to give Cloyd a test he already passed.

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  1. Overbeck played a little third. He should and bring up Ruf; Send Luna packing. There is no way Luna is needed.
    After going to the painful Phillies game, I sincerely hope the ESPN reports is right and Howard is going to Clearwater.
    Ditto on Cloyd. Changes are needed. KK was game but Pence showed why he would make a great left fielder. Herndon on the other hand was giving up rockets, Maybe DeFratus to the 60 day and give Cloyd a start if Lee isn’t ready.

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  2. The next 3rd baseman is maybe….DRUMROLL…Cody Asche. Check out his fine BA and OBA at Clearwater, though his power is yet to come. Looks like he could move up pretty quckly should he keep this up. His pre-draft reports talked about power in his swing which has yet to show up BUT he may be swinging for contact now with power later. Question may relate to his fielding which was said to be hampered by his lack of lateral movement. At third base he won’t have the need for same at 3b as opposed to 2b.

    Worth keeping an eye on him.

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        1. Though the Florida State League kills power, it would be nice to see a few more doubles. Does anyone know what his reputation in the field is?

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    1. After watching Asche play third for a month I would rate him “shakey” at third, mainly
      because he does not have “soft” hands With some time maybe he could develop. Never saw Overbeck play 3rd so I wonder if he has thre same problem.

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    1. Chalk up another ‘toolsy OF’ that will falter…how many is that now in the last 5 years!

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      1. Not sure what you expect. The attrition rate for prospects in general is brutal. And the guys the Phils generally draft are long-shots to make the majors. But you only need one hit to get a superstar, which is why they do this.

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        1. Understand the high attrition rate…however do not understand selecting the toolsy chancey guys so high in the draft. Five in round 4 or higher…Hewitt, Golson, Hudson, Myers and Collier, however jury still out on Collier and Myers to some extent.

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    2. Let’s give it some time … by all accounts his defense is excellent, maybe even major league ready, so there’s every reason to be patient with his bat.

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      1. Agreed. He is still pretty young by Phillies outfield prospect standards (21) compared with Mayberry and Brown who are still not well established at 28 and 24, respectively. It took him 2 seasons at Williamsport, but he raised his average by about 100 points the second time, to a respectable .275. Off to a slow start this year, but he has stolen 12 bases in 15 tries so far. If he can get his strikeouts under control, he may be okay, as he probably has the speed to bat .300 if he just makes contact.

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      1. I understand the age stuff, he still has time, etc., but seeing things on his Facebook like ‘I need to take a trip to Jamaica’ just gives me the impression that he’s not all-in. Save me the ‘they’re entitled to a personal life’ stuff, but still…

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  3. Lakewoord is the first team this year to score on Matt Barnes… well… not exactly. He left in the 6th inning with a manon 1st and 2 out. The relief pitcher imploded. In that 7 run inning, all runs were scored with 2 out. It’s sad to see Kyrell Hudson made 2 of the outs by striking out both times he batted.

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    1. It was an easy catch too. It’s mental it’s nothing physical it’s just all mental for him he’s just got the world watching him everytime the ball is hit at him and it shows when easy plays he makes them look 10x more difficult.

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    2. I swear to god, the level of minute nitpickery for Dom Brown’s defense is starting to get maddening. Nothing personal to you Mike, this is more directed to the anonymous “psychologist” who commented, but … if there’s one thing I feel like the minors is for, it’s being able to make occasional mistakes without intense scrutiny. Let’s lay off the guy and wait to see how the complete body of work looks in a month or two. The reports from the beat writers who follow the team sound fairly encouraging. He’s inconsistent, but getting better, and the athleticism is there.

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      1. Have you SEEN Browns Fielding %?
        It is .886 currently.
        I do not think I have EVER seen one that low for anyone at any position and OFers have by far the highest fielding percentage of any position.

        And from what I have read, he is misplaying many balls that could have been errors resulting in a far low rate.

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      2. Catching a routine flyball is a skill that every OF at the HS level and above should have. Its something they should do 99.999% of the time with zero issues. The fact that he cant and that he also has zero instincts in the OF after 6.5 years in our minor-league system is a legitimate concern.

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      3. I think it’s reached a point where, to not be concerned with his fielding is akin to sticking one’s head in the sand. He’s played OF in the minors enough to where he really shouldn’t be having problems with routine fly balls.

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        1. Exactly. He’s played 496 games in the OF in his minor-league career. There is zero excuse for not being able to field routine flyballs. Working on route running and hitting the cutoff man are things that more reps might fix…not being able to catch a routine flyball is a very bad sign.

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          1. That is why Anonymous is correct with the assertion that it is a mental issue and not physical. He has all of the abilities to catch that ball. It appears to be a concentration issue. Which is not surprising for someone who believes he should be with the big club. My biggest worry right now is the lack of power from Brown. I expected a little more, but i agree that we may see a different outcome once the weather warms up.

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            1. If its mental, that’s not exactly a good thing. Guys that develop mental blocks like that (Ankiel, Sax, Knoblauch) can permanently have an issue. He seeminly has the flyball catching equivalent of the yips.

              If he believes he should be on the big club, he should earn a spot by hitting and fielding. Its not as if the bar is set all that high right now given the struggles at the MLB level. Brown has proven he can hit at a high level, he just has to do it. They could really use a confident, hitting Dom Brown at the MLB level and I truly sincerely hope he figures things out.

              One thing I will say is that I 100% do not believe its a “lack of effort” issue with him. Ever report on him says the exact opposite and having seen him play, he definitely hustles.

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          2. Believe it or not, his MiLB FLDG% is .955…but he has as many assists as errors…41 apiece out of 918 chances…now that is amazing.

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            1. .955% is laughably bad for an OF. At the MLB level, from 2008-2012 (tried to pick a comparable length of time), the lowest fielding percentage is .965% and most OFs are up over .990%.

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            2. 21 games is way too early to draw any sort of conclusion from the stats, even (or especially) fielding percentage. Ty Wigginton played 21 games in left field in 2011, his fielding percentage was .889.

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  4. Cloyd is going to have to perform every step of the way. Because RHP with 86-89 mph straight fastballs generally do not have long big league careers. Maybe he will be the exception to the rule. Since he’s a Phillies prospect, I hope he is the exception.

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    1. It would seem that the Phillies are pretty good at finding the exception to rules. I’m rooting for him.

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  5. I thought it was worth noting that in Perci Garner’s start he let up three runs but in six innings only three balls left the infield.

    Hopefully pitching close to a full season this year will help him get the reps he needs to comfortably repeat his delivery and improve his control.

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  6. Has anyone heard an update on Aumont, I was watching the game when he got injured and didn’t notice anything but the announcers were saying he seemed to be having problems with his shoulder. Didn’t see yesterdays game but LV pitchers got smacked around vs the yanks.

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  7. Cody Asche did great again today 2-3 with a double and a walk. I am not worried about his power. He jumped 2 levels after not doing that well last year in a rookie league and is doing great. The power is often the last thing to come. He is making adjustments and doing well. If he has power as has been mentioned, it should surface sooner or later.

    Colvin had an improved outing as well, although he walked 5. You know, you could make a pretty good argument that the starters at Clearwater have more upside, as a group, than the Reading starters.

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    1. That double in and of itself is a step in the right direction for Asche. None of us are hoping to see 10 HRs a month from him. Not at that field, anyways. Hitting a few doubles would ease any doubt that he’s got power, so there’s one down.

      Incidentally, what was his one out?

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  8. I came on here to ask the same question, about asche power. does anyone know if he showed power at nebraska

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    1. The second-team All-American was the Big 12’s home run leader in 2011 with 12. He had 56 RBIs and batted .327. He totaled 24 HRs in three seasons as a Cornhusker.

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  9. David Herndon on the DL now… hoping to see Diekman come up considering that, over the next 6 days, we’re going to face:

    Michael Bourn, Brian McCann, Freddie Freedman, Jason Heyward, Adam LaRoache, Bryce Harper, etc.

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  10. Wow T. Greene needs short season to start so he can go down and get some confidence back. Granted i have not seen him in person, but he is looking bad right now. Nothing but k’s and errors

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  11. Again, let’s take a look at Asche’s pre-draft report(s): “…very good approach at the plate”…”excellent power even with wood bats”…”quick hands at plate”…”good hitting fundamentals”…”runs well.”

    IMO, again, he seems to NOW be concentrating on making good contact which is smart for a guy entering his first full pro season. And in line with “good hitting fundamentals” as above.

    Further, “best tool is his left-handed power”…”good hand-eye coordination and a sound approach so he should hit for a solid average.”

    So…what’s not to like?

    Fielding CAN be learned; hitting comes more naturally or not. He has a strong arm for that 3rd to 1st throw. Looks like he may be…”A Natural” which would be–given the state of 3b at our big club–a shining gift.

    In his first full pro season he was assigned to High A. Think maybe the FO saw a lot there despite his questionable few games in ’11? He must have been very convincing in spring training. Keeping up his hitting MIGHT get him to Reading by the end of the season.

    Additionally, he is highly intelligent and loves the game.

    All to the good.

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    1. I was curious what the pre-draft word was on his power, sounds like it was there to begin with which is very encouraging.

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