Daily Discussion; 8/6

Time is short today, I’d like to do some more work on site enhancements, so with that I’ll just give you an open avenue for random discussion again. I did make one big change last night. If you look on the left side of the page, I’ve created a new set of categories. The first one is “Player Mentions”, which is essentially any article or tidbit that I or the other authors have written about that prospect. Previously, all of the profiles were linked under the player, and while this might have been somewhat useful, I was never really happy with how it looked. So I’ve separated all of the player profiles into their own separate category, which comes underneath. It might take a bit of getting used to, but I think it looks much better. But anyway, onto today’s action…

71 thoughts on “Daily Discussion; 8/6

  1. another solid game from golson. 2 hits and a double. i really don’t understand why the people on this blog are so down on him. he is having a very, very good year. this is the second year in a row that he has hit well while moving up a notch. i honestly think that most people miss the forest by focusing on the trees with him. they get caught up in one stat and throw away all of the other good. At double A, he is projecting to be a gold glove outfield, a potential stolen base threat, with good pop. he is not tony gwinn, but that doesn’t make horrible. there seemed to be a lot of negative posts on him yesterday and i just don’t get it.

    at the same time, i bet there are posts today about savery and how he only gave up one run yesterday. yay…what a good bounce back game. but his periferals were HORIBLE, and in line with what he has been doing all season (save a nice 5 game stretch). move him up a notch with those walks, hits and Ks and he gives up 5+ runs and doesn’t make it out of the 3rd inning.

    they are the same age and a lot of guys project him as a better prospect than golson.

  2. Human nature is that we establish our opinions on particular players and it is hard to give those opinions up regardless of results. We then focus on any positive/negative to support that opinion.

    Some posters here have long-held opinions about Golson being a flop and some have that same opinion about Savery.

    No doubt you’ll see the same thing with Hewitt moving forward!!

  3. fair point, but if we don’t support our prospects when they do well…if we don’t give positive buzz…who will?

  4. PP Fan. That “one stat” is essentially the most important stat in baseball. On Base % is the single most important factor when looking at a player, and one point of OB% is 3 times more valuable than each point of slugging %. Because of this, some of us are still skeptical of Golson’s overall worth as a player, largely because his ability to draw walks has been non-existent prior to this season, and even this season hes been very inconsistent.

    No one here or anywhere (well, maybe somewhere) is rooting against him. But hes not a rookie. Hes been here since 2003. Everyone wants him to turn it around, but after watching him struggle, year in and year out, I’m just going to be a tad cautious. Just like you wrote Savery off less than a year after his debut, some of us are waiting to jump on the Golson bandwagon.

  5. phuturephillies. Do you think weber is a good sign if it happens. He is five eleven and doesn’t hit ninety on the gun. You talked before about body type and projection. How would he project in the future.Being that he is small in stature.

  6. Sure I’d love for us to sign him, though I think its less than 50% that he signs.

    I’m going to write a “primer” on these scouting terms and what they mean, but I’ll save it for this fall when there is less to talk about. Basically, he’s only 5’11, and its unlikely he’ll end up being any more than 6’0 or 6’1, and because of that, you can’t really project his body getting much bigger. When scouts talk about projection, they are talking about guys who are 6’4 or 6’5 with very thin bodies who they project to add muscle as they fill out physically, and when that happens, you can posit that they will add velocity. Weber isn’t likely to be that kind of pitcher.

    I’m trying to think of a RHP with 88-91 velocity, pin point command and very good secondary pitches. I guess you might say he projects to be like present day Mike Mussina. Mussina only throws 88-91 now, he still has sparkling command and control, and his breaking stuff is plus. Of course in his prime, Mussina was more 92-94 with his fastball. But thats the type of guy Weber seems to be, 2008 Mussina, if that makes sense?

  7. Most everyone I’ve seen posting here really do want ALL of the Phillies prospects to do well, we each just have our own personal favorites and guys we have doubts about. I see nothing wrong with expressing doubt about a particular player based on certain traits or abilities.

    Afterall, if we all agreed, what fun would these daily discussions be?? 🙂

  8. Jon Let’s wait to declare him a stud. He didn’t light it up for us. Remember tyler mach.

  9. PP,

    You are obviously a believer in the sabermetrics philosophy but I disagree that OB% is THE most important stat in baseball.

    I agree that Golson will never become a quality player in the league if his .OBP sits around .300-.310 but there have been many above average ML players with career .OB%’s in the .340-.350 range. This season, Golson is at .333 so seeing an increase of another 10-15 points isn’t a stretch…

    Note that Rollins won an MVP award at .344 last year..

  10. I’ve never seen Golson play, but if his defense is as advertised, I could see him developing into Torii Hunter (career OBP: .326) with less power but maybe more speed. So yeah, he might not be a sabermetric dream player, but he could be a highlight reel guy.

    – Jeff

  11. One thing to remember about the western minor leagues is that they tend to be higher scoring in nature. This year the California league (A+) is a full run per game (per team) higher than the Florida State League. The PCL is 0.75 runs per game (per team) higher than the International league. Historically, the gaps have been even higher at times.

    I believe it’s because of smaller parks, higher altitudes and drier air. For instance Stockton’s stadium is 300ft down left field, 399ft to center and 326ft to right. That’s compared to 329/408/330 in Clearwater.

  12. On the Weber comparison, the way he was described reminds me of how Ian Kennedy is described. Ian Kennedy is 6’0″, barely hits ninety with the fastball, although he is said to have a below-average curve and average change-up.

    By the way, I was wondering for those who have seen Les Walrond oitch in AAA, wasn’t his fastball faster then he threw in AAA? I only remember him hitting 88 max, and saw him on the tv radar gun at 92-93. Although his control was also much worse than I remember (probably because he was trowing harder…)

  13. Also, I still have high hopes from Golson, and another spring training working with Manuel will definetly help. In all likelihood, we’re going to need him in major leagues next year (even though he’s not ready for it), assuming we refuse to give Burrell more than two years on a contract.

  14. 3up, outs are the currency of baseball. The fewer outs you make at the plate the better, and the way to measure that is with on base percentage. I do think its the most important stat, by a wide margin. That doesn’t mean that he can’t do other things of value. Stealing 30 bags a year at an 85% clip has value. Playing gold glove defense has value. But look at Pedro Feliz. Gold glove caliber defender at 3B, but his EqA (which factors in his power and speed) is only .256, with .260 being league average.

  15. Walrond’s first two fastballs hit 94… must have had the adrenalin pumping… or the radaar guns at CBP need to be calibrated.

  16. Every day when I look at Golson’s line in the boxscore, I always see a K or two. It’s like automatic. The sun rising from the East. The moon shining brightly every 30 days. Curt Schilling winning big games. And I usually never see a walk. These are the only two numbers that you have to look at with Golson. Everything he does revolves arounf those two numbers. His future major league career, if he makes it, will always mirror those two numbers. Dominic Brown’s two numbers are usually always pleasing to look at daily.

  17. Re: Spencer, Andrew Hertzog’s hit the nail on the head. Spencer struggled mightily both in the NYPL last year and the FSL this year, so I’d be surprised if his current success is much more than a nice hot streak helped along by the hitter-friendly CAL League. Still, I wish him the best.

    Re: the Weber comparison, I’d nominate Shawn Marcum as a dream scenario (I think someone had mentioned this before). By the way, Weber’s stats for Team USA U-18 were certainly impressive: 17.0 IP, 12 hits, 1 unearned run, 19:2 K:BB. Among others, he outpitched teammate Matthew Purke — who’s widely considered a top-5 high school prospect for next year.

    Re: Golson, I don’t want to keep harping on the same things, but the K:BB ratio is one of the most accurate indicators of future success, especially when trying to project how someone’s going to hit major league pitching. If Golson puts up his line from this year — .287/.333/.438 with 19 steals and a 25:108 K:BB ratio — consistently in the majors, then I’ll be thrilled. But because of that ratio, I fear those numbers are bound to erode (though obviously I’d love to be wrong). PatCroce’sLookingToBuy has it exactly right, IMO: Brown is a much more exciting offensive prospect than Golson for that reason.

    Finally, that’s exactly why I love what Zach Collier’s shown us so far. After a 1-for-2 with 2 BB’s yesterday, his line (albeit after only 62 at bats) is up to .323/.400/.419 with a 10:12 K:BB ratio. Oh, and he’s still just 17. If he can keep up a line and a ratio in that neighborhood while getting some regular at bats over the next month, I’d strongly consider adding him to the organizational Top 10.

  18. as for Walrond’s velocity, someone can check mlb.com and go to the gameday feature, which has Pitch F/X data and velocity. Thats much more accurate than the stadium gun I think. If I remember right, the stadium gun at CBP is 1-2 mph fast.

    And I’d certainly trust the gameday data over the AAA scoreboard readings

  19. PP.

    I would argue that runs are the true currrency in baseball and the # of runs you produce or prevent is the most important stat.

    For example, is a .400 OBP singles hitter more valuable than a .330 OBP homerun hitter?

    Or to put it in real life terms, is Ryan Howard’s 31hr/96rbi/.329 OBP more valuable than Ryan Theriot’s 1hr/31rbi/.397 OBP??

    I would take Howard over Theriot anyday…

  20. Theriot’s EqA is .268, Howard’s is .281

    Howard has been the more valuable hitter overall, but that’s because of the big gap in raw power, which of course is a factor. Theriot has a .375 slugging% to Howard’s .500. Of course that matters, but Theriot’s .397 OB% is really valuable.

  21. PatCroce’sLookingToBuy – the same guy leading the NL in RBI’s is on pace to shatter his own strike out record.

    PP – i don’t know how to get to EQA, but i calculated raw EQA and Dom Brown and Golson have almost the same. And Golson is at AA vs. low A.

  22. I don’t think anyone is super down on Golson or isn’t rooting for him to make it. As I recall, a lot of the ‘negative’ comments are merely tempering the overenthusiasm of those posting things suggesting he should be brought up to Philly now or that he is a super prospect. Neither is true. He is a nice prospect, but not a guy who projects as a future major league star at this point.

    PP say Golson is having a very, very good year. I’ve watched him play in about 10 games and check his stats and don’t think his hitting merits two very’s. There is a striking improvement in his hitting compared to his time at Reading at the end of 2007. At that point he could best be described as woefully clueless at the plate against AA pitching. He had a nice offensive season at CLW last year before moving up.

    Looking at Golson’s 2008 offensive season, it is good, not great. He turns 23 right after the season, so he is pretty much age appropriate for the Eastern League. He has an OPS of .771, which is good, but not even very good. To put his numbers in context, we need to look at his teammates. Although a year older, Donald has an OPS of .897. Marson is close to a year younger and has an OPS of .857. Slayden is an older, iffy prospect, who will make it or not as a major league bench guy based on his bat. His OPS is .825. Reading is a bit of a hitter’s park. I want to see an OPS better than .800 before getting very excited. On the peripherals, I am of the strikeouts don’t count if you are doing well when not striking out. Still, to be tolerable, the Golson level of Ks need to be accompanied by a lot of walks or very good HR power. Golson doesn’t walk nearly enough and has yet to show great HR power. For a guy whose biggest tool is speed, he needs to get on base more.

    On defense, he is helped by speed and a very strong arm. He still needs to refine his defensive skills, as he does not consistently run good routes to balls and I have seen him make as many bloopers and great plays.

    Those who say he is Jeff Jackson or Reggie Taylor have been proven wrong. He is better than that. Based on what he has shown to date, to me he looks like he either gets more pitch recognition/plate discipline and turns his offense up a notch or he develops into pretty much another Victorino.

  23. who wouldnt take howard over theriot?…but the discussion is really about greg golson’s future in the major leagues. what the point of the k/bb ratio is is that it indicates a hitter’s ability to recognize pitches and which ones are the correct ones to swing at. not to mention that the more balls that you put into play, the more likely some will be hits, and that strikeouts are the least productive result of an at bat. while i think we would all be fairly pleased if golson but up 287/333/438 consistently in the majors with defense and speed, the fact is that those numbers are two levels away and likely to go down before they possibly go up. not to mention that guys that walk more in the minors simply tend to be better major leaguers, and obp is the stat most correlated with winning baseball games in the long term

  24. Two weekends ago, Baseball Prospectus had all the data on their site for free. Can someone with more knowledge than I have in this area interpret this VORP, especially Ryan Howard’s?

    Lance Berkman 62.1
    Albert Pujols 53.0
    Mark Teixeira 29.1
    Conor Jackson 28.4
    Derrek Lee 26.5
    Adrian Gonzalez 26.1
    Carlos Delgado 18.7
    James Loney 20.7
    Ryan Howard 15.5

  25. My daily chime in on the Quintin Berry front….

    “Q” was 1-5 on Wednesday night as the Threshers and Joe Savery faced Dontrell Willis and the Lakeland Flying Tigers. The Threshers picked up a 5-1 win in the game behind 13 hits including 4-5 from Jesus Villegas, and two each from Michael Taylor and Gus Milner.

    Quintin extended his hitting streak to 22 games with the hit.

    Joe Savery had a decent game going 5.0 innings giving up just one run on four hits with three Ks and 5 BB.

  26. I think I started the Golson thing yesterday (sorry), but I agree with what’s been said here. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. I write software for a living, so I certainly have no more insight then anyone else. It’s just a feeling I get based on players he reminds me of.

    I also agree with PatCroce’sLookingToBuy, I am very excitied about Dominic Brown. I think he has a chance to be special and I’m looking forward to more conversation about him as he advances through the system.

  27. Governator,

    not to be difficult, but a DP ball is the least productive result of an out but your right, the discussion is about Golson and his potential future.

    I’m not arguing that K rate/.OBP are not important factors in determine future success just those numbers are not the be all/end all in evaluating prospects.

    As for the statement that players who walk more in the minors tend to be better major leaguers, I haven’t done the research to see if that’s true but I have my doubts…

  28. PP,

    I agree that Theriot’s .397 OBP is very valuable but your agreement that Howard is more valuable than Theriot based on the significant power difference and run production supports the point that .OBP is not the most important stat.

    .OBP becomes an important measurement when associated with overall run production but not as a number in and of itself.

  29. jay bruce had a 3:1 strike out to walk rate in the minors.

    Cameron Maybin has a 2:1

    travis snider (#12 overall prospect) has more than a 2:1

    i can go on an on…golson’s rate is higher, but the point is these are top prospects in baseball with bad k to walk rates.

  30. PP Fan: two counterpoints to the Howard example. First, RBI’s are a circumstantial statistic and a pretty terrible way to evaluate hitters. Second, Howard’s a freak of nature and largely a statistical outlier, because while he K’s far too often, it’s due to a long swing that generates tremendous power. Not to pick on him, but Golson — like virtually everybody else — fails to generate anywhere near that sort of raw power, which means the lack of OB% isn’t being counterbalanced with SLG%.

    Secondly, the EqA’s are on the Baseball Prospectus site. Golson currently sits at .271, while Brown is at .303 (once again, .260 being the average). Furthermore, BP’s peak translations — they explain what that is here — have the pair with the following MLB career years:

    Golson — .282/.331/.442, 12 HR, 49 RBI’s, 16 SB’s, 26:88 K:BB (.270 EqA)
    Brown — .293/.388/.488, 18 HR, 61 RBI’s, 11 SB’s, 64:61 K:BB (.300 EqA)

    It’s just another tool, so take it for what it’s worth, but that’s some of the rationale behind my argument.

  31. howard has high rbi totals because he is hitting .326 and a 1.033 OPS with runners in scorring positions. true, that it is important for runners to be on in front of him, but his numbers in those situations are insane. that is highly because they undo the shift and because he hits the ball really hard.

    here is another good stat on golson. his babip is .389. i attribute this to hitting the ball hard and legging out hits. if he improves his k/rate, maybe by cutting down on his swing, his ob% will improve.

  32. pp fan…i assume you are referring to his career minor league babip, because i ran the numbers and came up with the same thing. that is actually a fairly amazing stat over 1350 balls in play, indicating that when he does get a pitch he can hit he makes it count.

  33. actually, i was referring to this year, but also interesting to know that is his career number too.

    i think that it is a combination of hitting the ball hard and amazing speed home to first. i recall reading one time that his numbers there are off the charts.

    someone just needs to sit him down and confirm for him that he is not a home run hitter and he should be pounding the ball into the ground.

  34. ***Just like you wrote Savery off less than a year after his debut***

    PP – i haven’t written off Savery. you haven’t been reading my posts carefully or aren’t being fair. i know the guy still needs a lot of development and didn’t concentrate on pitching full time until after drafting. my point all along on this guy is that i think that expectations are way to high on him. i don’t see nasty stuff, high k rate or low BAA to suggest top of the rotation. i also see a history of injury and a Rice pedigree that isn’t so great. i think that he will be a back of the rotation guy. i have said that before. that isn’t writting someone off.

  35. First of all Golson has speed, Dom Brown does not and most players that have speed have high k:BB. They don’t get the same pitchs and they are afraid to walk them. And Dom Brown just went 1-8 with 2 strike outs and no walks on 8-5-08. He came in with .298 and ended with .294 after going 1-8 with no walks and 2 strike outs, how does this happen? .298 to .294

  36. Great discussion today.

    For me, the most important offensive stat is OPS. It combines the value of not making an out with the value of achieving extra bases. I also look at SB and SB%, since a single and SB is basically a double. They’re not exact, because with a man on first a single and SB still leaves runners on 2nd and 3rd, while a double might well score that runner from first. Still, using OPS + SB rate gives me an idea of a player’s rate of bases per plate appearance. The idea is to quantify the odds of making an out vs. achieving ‘X’ number of bases. An OPS of 1 means one plate appearance is roughly worth one base, the sign of a top offensive player.

    For pitchers, the best stat is WHIP, but it doesn’t account for the different values in extra base hits. Since Kendrick gives up a lot of singles, his WHIP may look comparable to someone who wins a lot less because 2 or 3 more of their hits allowed go for extra bases. Ideally you would incorporate Slugging and SB into the WHIP stat, giving you an idea of bases allowed per plate appearance. Instead I look at opponents OPS and XBH allowed to get a sense of the quality of their WHIP. I hate ERA, a deceptive stat, especially with relievers. For relievers I look at WHIP, opponents OPS and K/BB ratio.

    Fielding stats are still a work in progress. Errors and stellar defense should be disembodied from the pitcher’s line. By that I mean runs should be charged to fielders, too. The moment a ball is put in play, the pitcher is really just another fielder. If a run is caused by a fielder’s miscue, the run should be charged to the fielder. If a pitcher makes an error, the run should be charged to his fielding stats, not his pitching stats. All fielders should carry stats to show how many runs they cause or save on defense, IMO, since not all runs are scored or saved because of the pitching. There are new stats like dERA which attempt to show pitching stats independent from fielding, but it is needlessly complex and won’t ever work as long as the pitching stats are used to account for the fielding.

  37. mike – you cant downgrade a prospect based on two bad games. dom brown has consistently shown a much better eye and strike zone understanding than golson since he was drafted, with similar power, currently plus speed and an absolute cannon of an arm. while he is likely to slow down as he fills out his massive 6-6 frame, that will likely increase his power. and i wouldnt say hes anywhere near slow. a former top football recruit who verballed to miami before he was drafted? his rivals page says his 40 was 4.57 in hs, pretty fast if you ask me. and saying that speed and k/bb ratio are somehow linked is downright inane.

    as far as knapp goes…i think hes showing that he might be the real pitching stud of this phils draft

  38. does anyone know anything about harold garcia? he’s a little bit old for the gcl in that he’s almost 22, but he’s also been pretty quietly putting up some really solid numbers for a middle infielder. given his age, harman’s struggles this year, and the fact that cardenas is no longer in the system, i’d have to think that if he keeps up his current rate of production (.409 OBP, .529 SLG) he should start next year at lakewood.

  39. How many innings will the Phillies limit Knapp too ? He’s just out of HS and you dont want too many innings.

  40. Just a random comment on Jaramillo

    Since his abysmal April he’s been very solid

    Month – BA/OBP/Slug
    April – .193/.227/.277
    May – .295/.378/.410
    June – .288/.366/.370
    July – .286/.356/.451

    Bringing his numbers up to .264/.329/.384 8 HR & 35 RBI’s, his RBI totals are pretty low because he hit 6th in the order for a majority of the season.

    I think he could be a very good back up catcher for us.

  41. You still did not answere how, Dom Brown went from .298 to .294 in yesterdays game going 1-8 two strike outs and on walks. You still can’t compair him to Golson. I have seen Browns speed in some of his games and he is not that fast. He might have been in HS football but not in minor league baseball, the game changes. Ane he has too many errors in the outfield. Golson is much better.

  42. I think it’s borerline ridiculous that you are still trying to make an argument based on two games. That would be like me saying that chase utley goes 0-8 and carlos ruiz goes 4-8 therefore ruiz is better than utley.

  43. brown is also 2 years younger than golson, he actually knows how to walk and doesnt strikeout that much, golson is better defensively but thats it

  44. golson hit .219 at lakewood at age 20 where brown is now hitting .294 so lets see what happens when brown gets to reading and has so time to develop

  45. he went from 298 to 294 because he went 1 for 8. mike, do you know how to do math? if you make outs, your average goes down. hes still a better prospect than golson. what you are saying, honestly barely deserves being dignified with a response

  46. 19 IP 7H 1 ER 6BB 24K’s BAA under .100

    Stutes is quickly going through the SAL. Any chance he jumps to Clearwater? It’ll be good to see him on the Hot Sheet in the next week as he deserves to be.

  47. I asked in the Marson post but are there any decent write ups on Stutes? All I know is he was on that Oregon team. That’s it.

  48. What type of stuff does Stutes have ? I thought I read that he has a great Curveball. Anyone know his velocity ?

  49. Lakewood is in contention for the Sally League second half title. I think they’ll leave Stutes there to compete.

    Stutes is primarily a pitcher who works off of his FB which sits in the low 90s with good late movement. He maintains his velocity well through the game. He has a good curve, average slider, and average change. His curve seemed to desert him his senior year in college (and he was working on it at WMPT), but he has been throwing it well at Lakewood. His change is much more effective as a third pitch than as his second.

    Articles on Stutes:

    http://www.sungazette.com/page/content.detail/id/513313.html

    http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080727/SPORTS0301/807270420/1002/SPORTS

  50. I hate to even mention this but D’Arby Myers is playing much better at Williamsport. Big Deal… I know. He has a 9 game hitting streak. He’s hitting .305 in that stretch and best of all, he’s found some patience at the plate. 3 BBs and only 4 Ks in that stretch. I’m still disappointed that he hasn’t played better overall but maybe he’s getting it? I’ll keep an eye on him to see if this is just a temporary anomoly or a trend.

  51. problem with Benson is that right now we don’t need a middling starter. we’re chock full of them at the ML level. Now, if we could trade a couple middlings for a bonafide #2, now that’d be a story.

  52. Can Jeff Crupper (or anyone else for that matter) provide any info on Jesus Villegas Andino? His numbers weren’t very good last year for the GCL Phils and he started there this year but I get the impression they needed bodies in Clearwater so they bumped him up. In limited time there (90 ABs) he’s batting .300. Any reason to be interested in him?

  53. Has anyone seen this kid Justin Pope pitch live? Looks like the Yanks and Cards gave up on him then we picked him up. He had a WHIP under 1.00 I think they promoted him up to Reading?

  54. First of all I’m not talking about two games, his ups or downs, i’m asking why after having eight at bats hitting only once 1-8, why his average only went from .298 to .294 Then in yesterday’s game after his first at bat his average did not change when he grounded out it stayed at .294 everyone else average changed after their first AB. he went 0-3 this is all new to me and I would like to know. As far as Golson goes, if you look at most players that have speed you will see that they have more strike outs than walks.

  55. brown has speed as well, i believe they both have 19 stolen bases so theres no excuse for golson not being able to take a walk and striking out every 2.5 at bats or something, the reason why brown’s avg. doesnt drop that far is because he has accumulated alot of at bats (400 at bats) , and obviously with more at bats there is less fluctuation in your average

  56. mike,

    Average is calculated as Hits divided by At bats. Before the day where he went 1 for 8, he had 117 hits and 393 at bats. Hence his average was 117/393 = 0.298. After he went 1 for 8, he had 118 hits and 401 at bats. Hence his average was 118/401 = 0.294. Yesterday he went 0 for 3, so now he has 118 hits and 404 at bats. Hence his average is now 118/404 = 0.292.

    The reason that fast guys seem to have more strikeouts is that they have a skill – namely being fast – that other people don’t. Hence, non-fast guys have to have other skills in order to make it to the majors. Those other skills are usually patience at the plate and power. If you are slow, strikeout a lot, and have no power, you are not going to make the majors. However, if you can either combine some of those skills or be really really good at one of them, you can make the majors. For example, Chase Utley combines those skills well and Ryan Howard is really really good at hitting for power. It looks like Brown combines those skills better than Golson did at the same point in his development.

    I know that was simplistic, just trying to help.

  57. You guys must hardly know what to do with yourselves. What with Walrond AND Happ pitching in the same inning, and cervanack getting an RBI!

    Seriously though I hope they stop screwing with JA and park him somewhere until the rosters expand.

  58. 2 quick things I’d like to point out re: Clearwater’s performance tonight:

    1) Don’t hop off the Naylor bandwagon just yet: 10 Ks tonight and only 1 ER. 9 hits is a bit much, but the return of the strikeouts is good news.

    2) Michael Taylor is NOT cooling off in August. I thought that comment was ridiculous when I read it the other day…apparently Taylor did, too…3-4 tonight with a double, a 2-out RBI, and a walk.

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