Box Score Recap – 8/18/2013

Box Score Recap

Three Williamsport Crosscutters combined to no-hit The Mahoning Valley Scrappers. Yacksel Rios walked three and struck out six in five innings, (not nine like I said earlier), Mark Meadors followed with three clean innings, and Manny Martinez closed out the game with another. The WIL offense put together eight runs on 12 hits, including three from CF Gustavo Martinez. Jesse Biddle with another pretty good performance at AA. Throwing strikes at a 64% clip, he allowed eight hits and struck out seven in six innings. Not as good as his last turn, but two good starts in a row is great to see.

And Tyson Gillies is hitting pretty well in August – OPSing .815 for the month, with a homer, four doubles and four steals in as many attempts. If nothing else, he’s shown his legs are healthy enough to steal some bases this year. He’s not running wild, (as they say), but 16/21 is useful.

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130818

8-18-13 boxscores

49 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 8/18/2013”

  1. Gillies continues to confound me. Just as I had given up on him he’s having a strong month to finish the season, if he keeps this up how much rope does he get next year if at all? Doesn’t he have to be put on the 40 man at this point?

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      1. Fail to see what starting MiniMart and Casper Wells at CF is achieving that giving Gillies a tryout wouldn’t.

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          1. He’s played a full season and completely remade his swing. The numbers haven’t been great, but there has been visible on-the-field progress.

            Moreover, what have Martinez or Wells done to earn that playing time? I understand the idea of merit-based at bats in the abstract, but for a team as terrible as the Phillies right now, what’s the downside of letting him play for six weeks? If he’s terrible, he gets DFAed in November for some terrible Rule V pick.

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            1. So true about Mini-Mart and Wells.

              No way Gillies gets DFA’d though. Young 5th OFer with 6 years of team control and a ton of tools isn’t going anywhere, regardless of how many chances he’s had.

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            2. MiniMart hit better for the Iron Pigs than Gillies has this year. Anyway, it’s clear that Gillies is still trying to figure out AAA. It doesn’t make sense for the Phillies to put him in the majors just so the fans don’t have to look at Martinez in a Phils uniform anymore.

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          2. Probably and if we look at the OFers the Phillies have there just doesn’t seem to be a space for Gillies out there for next season. Brown, Revere, Ruf, FA OFer, Mayberry would all be better than Gillies and then Hernandez might have jumped Gillies and will likely replace the Michael Martinez role in the system. There just isn’t really a place for him on the major league bench.

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            1. Agreed. The OF needs improvement next year which will occur either by signing a platoon player or by obtianing a starting OF and relegating either Ruf or Revere to a part time roll. Either way, none of the guys in AAA would improve the current crop and I just don’t see a roll for Hernandez or gillies in Philly.

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            2. Revere for a part time role? This is a joke right? He is going to be the CF for the next several years. He is young, cheap and controllable not to mention he was one of the best hitters in MLB from May 1st until his injury. I think his April struggles was because he was pressing . . He was coming to a new team and took Rollins spot as the lead off hitter . . If that isn’t pressure for a young kid then I dunno what it. He hit well over .300 once he got settled in and hit over .300 for the year. As long as people realize what he is then they should be happy with what he’s given up and will give you( good trade on RAJ part, i always said that Worley was a 4.50plus pitcher and he’s showed it this year and at the end of his Phillies tenure) He’s a .300 hitter who could turn singles into doubles with his legs, doesn’t K much (needs to work on walking more) and can steal with the best of them, he’s never going to be someone with power so be content with MAYBE 2 HRs a year as he gets stronger) Remember all the troubles that Juan Pierre gave teams when he was with the Rockies and more so w the Marlins? That is what Revere can do. His playing time WILL NOT (and SHOULD NOT) be reduced. An outfield with an All Star who can hit 30HRs, drive in 100 while hitting in the .280’s (Brown), a CF who will give you more hits then games played while stealing 40plus bags a year (Revere) and a power bat who can hit potentially 30HRs (Ruf) is nothing to be disappointed about. (However personally I’d rather see Ruf be the RH’ed platoon at 1B).

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    2. I’m pretty much done with Gillies now. He just hasn’t been very good and his little hot streak right now is nice but it’s not even crazy good numbers. It’s an .823 OPS over the last 10.

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        1. Collier has a interesting tinge to him. If memory serves, he had a hot August last year which game him a gig in Arizona. This year, he’s doing the same thing. But he won’t get a shot at Arizona. Maybe in the LA Fall leagues?

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  2. Hiciano is staying hot and Biddle had a nice night last night. Hopefully he finishes strong. That’s 2 pretty good starts in a row. And alas we were robbed of JP Crawford’s debut in Lakewood.

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    1. According to Fangraphs, this is the first start of the season where Biddle did not allow a BB. Very encouraging.

      Amazingly, Biddle has walked at least three batters in 14 of his 19 starts this season. The fact that he’s sporting an ERA of 3.76 despite this is a testament to his ability to K batters and (a pure inference on my part here) his mental makeup.

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      1. I think it’s interesting that you say that, because his strand rate actually isn’t anything special– it’s 73%. It is kinda weird. I think it’s moreso the fact that people aren’t hitting that well against him (.211 BAA) and that sort of makes up for the amount of walks he gives up and he still strikes out a lot of guys.

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        1. People aren’t hitting well against him because he’s striking them out. His BABIP against is pretty average (.281).

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        1. Last year he had a 3.22 ERA and a 3.24 FIP. Two years in a row with both being so close. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before.

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    1. I vote mirage. I’d leave him unprotected this year and then sign him back. He’s probably no better than a 5th outfielder down the line but there’s a chance he breaks through.

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      1. At one time, 2009, I thought he would be our version of Garrett Anderson. Boy was I off base on that!

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      2. Yeah, .a 487 BABIP this month is helping him out. He’s still striking out kind of a lot, although not as much as he was earlier in the year.

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      3. Taking him off the 40 man isn’t a bad idea, I doubt any other team is going to use a roster spot on him at this point.

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    2. It’s hard to say. He was good toward the end of last season and then in the AFL, then started AA unable to breach the Mendoza line and without much power.

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      1. Sure, it’s possible, but you don’t see a lot of experienced prospects struggle at Reading and make it big. Reading is where you’re supposed to take off as a hitter.

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        1. Lots of guys struggle with the adjustment to AA. AA pitchers can throw strikes more consistently, and have much better secondary pitches, than at lower levels. Reading may be a hitter’s park, but that’s mainly about increased power.

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          1. Unless they are really young, AA/Reading is the place that really good hitters take off. It is a great hitters park in a great hitters league. Now, the pitchers often struggle, but the good hitters do very well there and the guys who are going to the majors do not typically flirt with the Mendoza line for three or four months as Collier has. AAA/Lehigh Valley is completely different – it’s a very stiff test for hitters in that park. In fact, if you go back and look at some of our best hitting prospects, they often have an easier time of it in Philly than they do in Lehigh Valley.

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        2. Certainly power often increases, even with in-season promotions, when guys move from CLW to Reading. Of course, it didn’t happen with Franco this year.

          The big problem with Collier is that he has yet to put up a truly good season. He’s looked good at ends of seasons, last year and now. But last year, his season OPS was only .732 and this year there is no way he reaches .700. Time lost to injury and suspension have hurt, but he’s just never put up that big year. Started with .704 in GCL to start, then fell to about .600 at two levels the following year, then out a whole season due to injury, then his best year at CLW, but one in which he only had to perform for a season shortened by the 50-game suspension.

          Being good enough for a month in a season is ultimately not going to be good enough, but may well be enough of a tease to keep his place on the 40-man for another year.

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  5. I’m very disappointed in Hansen’s starts since he was promoted. I think we need to sign some of the 12 yr olds playing in the LLWS though…. 6’4″, 215 lbs? at 12…

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  6. I’ve seen Tyler Viza’s name in the box scores a few times but I saw he went 5 innings today in the GCL giving up 3 hits and 1 ER (HR). His ERA sits at 1.88. I clicked on him to find some things out. i thought he a college senior type but I was wrong. He’s a 6’3″ 180 high schooler taken in this year’s draft. He’ll be 18 until October. He also got a nice $160,000 signing bonus out of the 32nd round. So far, he’s been impressive. Shhhh, don’t let it get out because then he’ll tank.

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      1. I can envision my wife as Katy Perry (and she – my wife that is – is lovely, believe me), but it ain’t gonna make that happen.

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