Box Score Recap – 7/30/2013

Box Score Recap

Colt Murray struck out 3 and walked 1 in the ninth to earn his 10th save of the year for CLR. He could use a few more of those after a pretty brutal stretch here in the last couple weeks. In all, though, he’s pitched better than his 5.58 ERA suggests this year, with an FIP of 3.34. Walks are up over last year’s near-brilliant FSL stint, but Ks are good at 9.9/9IP. He’s guy that reportedly throws pretty hard, and I imagine he’ll be moving up to AA next year with a chance for a 40-man spot after the season.

HMart continues to rake – 3-4 with a double. Logan Moore went 3-3 with a walk, a double and his third HR. Jan Hernandez was 3-5 with a triple and a homer. And Mark Leiter Jr. has 23 Ks in 16 GCL innings. Yes, he’s a college guy striking out high school kids. Still.

And another strong start from Drew Anderson – he gave up two hits and walked two in six scoreless, and struck out the side in order in the sixth. For a guy Mitch Rupert mentioned has had trouble in the later innings, he sure did take out the top of that Brooklyn lineup, (ncluding struggling 2012 1st round pick and high-level Mets prospect Gavin Cecchini), the third time through – all three Ks were swinging.

Enjoy your deadline day!

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130730

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85 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 7/30/2013”

  1. Here’s something reassuring on Franco from John Sickels. It’s crazy that we need reassurance about a guy doing everything right, but here it is:

    Insane breakout season, .325/.365/.581 with 23 homers between High-A and Double-A. Some meme got started somewhere that he’s not very good with the glove, but that’s not true at all; his defense is very solid and was considered better than his bat until about a year ago. There’s also the whole “arm bar” controversy. I wouldn’t say his swing is conventional, but it works and if there is some sort of actual problem it hasn’t been exposed yet. He’s only 20; has become one of my favorite prospects.

    http://www.minorleagueball.com/2013/7/30/4566174/philadelphia-phillies-top-20-2013-pre-season-prospects-in-review

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  2. Since about the time Franco was promoted and he got the 3B job full time Harold Martinez is hitting .329/.380/.494 (25 games). That includes 7 BBs to 18 Ks (7.6% and 19.5%). In the first half he had 3 BBs and 36 Ks (2.2% and 26.7%).

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    1. I had noticed the trend early. It’s interesting. If he finishes the season in the same vein then he may resurrect his prospect status.

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      1. Wow really Jimmy that’s your explanation??? It couldn’t be because he gets regular playing time now?

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  3. Nice to see Jan Hernandez with his first bomb. He’s an exciting prospect for sure, hope he starts building some momentum.

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  5. Can’t wait for the prospects of the Sally League next year-
    Colorado- Jonathan Gray, David Dahl, Jayson Aquino, Ryan McMahon, Julian Yan
    Giants- Christian Arroyo, Ryder Jones
    Yankees- Eric Jagielo, Ian Clarkin, Ty Hensley, Aaron Judge, Brandon Thomas
    Orioles- Hunter Harvey, Josh Hart
    Marlins- Colin Moran, Avery Romero, Austin Dean, Mason Hope
    Boston- Trey Ball, Jon Denney, Manuel Margot
    Nats- Lucas Giolito
    Texas- Jairo Beras, Alex Gonzalez, Travis Demeritte, David Perez
    White Sox- Tim Anderson, Tyler Danish, Keon Barnum, Jacob May, Nick Basto
    Phillies- JP Crawford, Mitch Gueller, Shane Watson, Carlos Tocci, Andrew Pullin, Dylan Cozens, Zach Green
    KC- Sean Manaea, Hunter Dozier, Humberto Arteaga
    Braves- Victor Caratini
    Mets- Dominic Smith, Gavin Cecchini
    Pirates- Austin Meadows, Luis Heredia, Reese McGuire, Jin De-Jhang
    White Sox, Philly, Pirates, Yankees, and Colorado look most prospective

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      1. Maybe, but still a very prospective league in 2014, My Top 10:
        1. Giolito
        2. Gray
        3. Moran
        4. Heredia
        5. Manaea
        6. Ball
        7. Meadows
        8. McGuire
        9. Dahl
        10. Crawford

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        1. Jonathan Gray was the 3rd overall pick and Colin Moran was the best hitter. Both college juniors. I guarantee you that neither player plays an inning of baseball in the SAL, next year.

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    2. Shane Watson won’t pitch repeat Lakewood. Alex Gonzalez might not even pitch that many innings in the FSL, let alone pitching in the SAL before going to AA next season.

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        1. Top 20 ranked college guys get sent to High A. I doubt more than 1 college guy (Dozier maybe) gets sent to the SAL, next year.

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  6. Quick glance at the pigs box score and this immediately comes to mind:
    “Is that you Tolbert? I’m hung over! At least you could have said you were from the Yankees.”

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    1. “Oh I don’t know Charlie. I’ve got another guy on the line about some white walls. I’ll talk to ya later”

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  7. I think its time to pay attention to Villalobos and Tromp, both at or over 300 now. Both started slow and are picking up their games now. Anyone know why Milner was pulled after 3 innings? He was pitching well. Inch did well again and has looked good except for one ugly outing. Drew Anderson and Nic Hanson are definitely two out of nowhere guys, along with Severino, who are moving up my top 50 list.

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  8. 5 of the 6 pharm teams won yesterday, which usually bodes well for some of the individual lines, but it seems like every prospect of consequence had a mediocre day at best, save Jan Hernandez. The middle of the W-port lineup had an especially rough day.

    H-Mart got hot at the end of last season too (last 100 PAs or so) and I thought he might have a better show this season. I remain skeptical of his recent good stretch.

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  9. HMart trying to salvage his season, JHernandez trying to turnaround a poor start and MLeiter pushing for a promotion. Some good stories developing there.

    Aumont? 2014 is a big season for him. He turns 25 in January and really needs to turn it around. The past two seasons have seen very little in terms of progress; in fact, he seems to have regressed. What a shame

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      1. Man chris i too can’t believe that not one of them has helped. Last night de fratus got two outs on line drives, to outfield, he was throwing 94-95 with his slider and they still hit ropes, stutes is always hurt, rosenberg throws hard as anyone but cant get anyone out, same with aumont and diekman, and they are all in that 26-28 range, not young kids anymore, I look at other teams the braves i believe there bullpen era is 2.41, most teams have cheaper home grown talent, and even with ruben spending 13 for pap, and 7 for adams and the array of junk he bought in not one of them has helped. not counting paps he has helped,but his contract is too much.

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      2. well, the positive is that you have to believe with all this opportunity, they have to improve at least marginally for next season. It’d help if they ever threw strike 1

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        1. I think the same thing was said about Diekman and Aumont last year, it didn’t really helped those guys much.

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          1. Dubee is the most over rated pitching coach ever. This lack of development falls square on him.

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        2. Thats the part that drives me nuts. Diekman, Aumont. Rosenberg, all 95 plus, but cant throw strikes.

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          1. Hell, why stop there? JC Ramirez, Robles, Garcia and even DeFratus also throw that hard and can’t throw strikes. It’s a ridiculously huge problem across the board.

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      3. I’ve been commenting on this for a couple of weeks now – it’s incomprehensible that none of them has panned out yet and it’s worth noting that all have gone down to AAA this year and actually regressed. It does not speak highly of the pitching instruction at AAA although, as I noted, Martin certainly has progressed.

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  10. could be that he needs to start. The last two seasons he’s had to take a backseat to Asche and Franco. If he finishes the season strong then he gets to go Reading and maybe increases his profile enough to be part of a trade as a lesser piece.

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    1. He started last year. His turnaround could be attributed to being 23 years old in the FSL.

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  11. I can’t remember what he hurt but I definitely read somewhere that he was hurt. I don’t recall it sounding that serious.

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  13. Not much consistent good play from the prospects. It is disappointing since I have so much hope for all of them. Looking at Boston’s prospect list is like night and day to the Phillies. Even non-prospects in their system are making themselves prospects. Smart and expensive high draft picks are working out great for them so far.

    Even Franco, who should be a mega prospect due to his stats, has lingering questions about both his bat and his glove and has no other skills. Biddle is very inconsistent as are all of the pitching prospects. Pettibone has been better than I expected but figure he turns into a pumpkin like Happ and Worley before him. Like this year, Iron Pigs AAA rotation in 2014 could be all prospects which would be nice.
    Positionally, Asche and Hernandez have been consistently good. Ruf is better in the majors so far than the minors. Dugan still needs to pass the AA test. Outside of Franco the system is devoid of any middle of the lineup hitters. Pretty much their star impact in the next 1-2 years rides on Franco alone. Good luck Amaro.

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    1. Saw a text yesterday that summed it quite nicely with regard to Phils v. Sox farms … if you were to create a top ten list made up of both teams the Sox would have 9 players on it!! I guess Franco would be the lone Phil.

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  15. I need a “B” team to follow…at least…Pirates? O’s? Who would you pick? I’m seriously considering moving to another city because of Ruben Amaro Jr. I love baseball so much and he’s made it unenjoyable for me since the Pence deal. He’s all but guaranteed the Phillies stay unwatchable for the next 4-5 years. Okay, maybe 3-4, but such a turnaround would require some outstanding luck in player development+Dodgers style spending.

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    1. Stay the course, hang tough…we are only nine champioships behind St Louis for NL supremacy..

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  17. Jan’s breakthrough is the most exciting development of the day. He was my favorite pick and its nice to see my hopes not being misplaced.

    Valle’s power outburst is starting to shift my attitude on him…He always had great batspeed and athleticism. He’s still young enough(just turned 23) that a strong finish could reestablish his prospect status. Even with little to no patience, a decent defensive catcher with some pop can play in the big leagues. Valle is younger than Rupp, might have more offensive upside and walks just as often. Rupp’s CS% is a little better, but Valle’s athleticism might allow him to block more pitches and provides some positional flexibility. I’m not saying Valle has any sort of future, just saying he might have a chance and we may have given up on him too soon…Maybe with a couple more years in the minors Valle could provide some depth at the position…Although by then, others in the org will hopefully have caught(no pun plz) up with him. .

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    1. Valle’s power has always been good. His mobility behind the plate has always been more than good. His work with pitchers has always been good. Unfortunately: his throwing to 2B is well below standard for a guy who hopes to be even a backup catcher in the bigs, his batting average is bad, his walk rate is bad, leading to his OBP is horrendous. Seriously, the guy is 23 in his second season in AA and his OBP has regressed to .243. That is not a prospect. Saw him successfully run on repeatedly in Sunday’s game. The throws were both late and unimpressive in their accuracy. Valle has already been lapped by Joseph and Rupp. THe young catchers will soon be passing him. I’m afraid his time has passed. He is becoming almost a one-dimensional guy, just swinging for the HR. Truly, the guy looks worse across the board than he did at this time last year, when we traded for Joseph.

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  18. Herlis Rodriquez is another guy to keep an eye on. Many of us were high on him last year when he first came stateside but he didn’t do well. However, he’s certainly hitting well now. In fact, he may need to get promoted to get challenged more.

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  20. As a lurker (and as an occasional poster) I just realized that LarryM is right more times than he is wrong. He leans towards the half empty but his half empty seems to always be the correct call. Im trying to remember the last time he was way off base with his predictions. Anyone??

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    1. Larry is right an awful lot because he’s logical, understands the SABR issues, and does his homework. What he doesn’t have a feel for (for example, pitching prospects), he tends to shy away from rather than guess. He nailed the Pence trade (which I liked at the time, even though I thought it was an overpay), and said it would come back to haunt the team and it has. And, on top of that, it’s entertaining to read his exchanges with the lunatic fringe!

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        1. LOL! I disagree with Larry from time to time too, but to give him credit, he’s never chimed in when complimented. Hope you and Larry have mended your fences.

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    2. No Asche:
      larrym says:
      June 28, 2011 at 11:38 AM

      My top 15:
      1. Singleton
      2. Cosart
      3. May
      4. Biddle
      5. Valle
      6. Collier
      7. Santana
      8. Colvin
      9. Galvis
      10. Cesar Hernandez
      11. Petibone
      12. Aumont
      13. De Fratus

      And then … hmm, gets tough. I think there is a real drop off at that point. Asche is I guess in the mix. J Rod maybe? Cloyd?

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      1. Really? That’s the best you can do? By the way, at the time, Asche was beginning a horrible fall campaign as a newly minted 4th round draft pick. He was charitably ranked around 15 at that time – it was a correct ranking at the time. Give me a break.

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      2. How in the heck did he have Asche in the mix for top 15 at that point. That was the year he was drafted and he sucked if we had seen him play at all so far by June 28th 2011. Good call i guess.

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        1. Yeah, exactly – it was an extremely good call at the time to have him ranked that high.

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          1. We’re idiots??????

            Okay, so, having never seen him play, his having compiled no minor league statistics, the one, the great, the might Larry was supposed to know more than every general manager in baseball who had been sending scouts across the country for months or, otherwise, he’s not “great”? Yeah, that’s a fair test. Really, when you make ridiculous statements like this I’m embarrassed for you.

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            1. And even so Larry actually had him pretty high, pretty much higher than anyone else at the time. All while he was having a terrible season, and wasn’t THAT highly touted pre draft. I say Larry made a heck of a call having him as high as he did.

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      4. That was two days before Bill Conlin ranked Franco as the third best Phillies’ prospect. So you could say I missed that one. Mind you, I wasn’t the only person behind the curve on him.

        And in retrospect, I had Valle way too high.

        But it’s kind of encouraging to see how much better the top 15 looks today, 25 months later, even with many of those guys gone or graduated.

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  21. Would have been nice to get something for MYoung even if that was the only deal made ahead of the deadline. Even getting Lisalverto back into the system would have been a win.

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    1. I agree I really wanted to see Young dealt, but it wasn’t going to be a game changer so it’s like whatever. Maybe they hold onto him a few weeks and can dump him before the waiver deadline.

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  23. You’ve got to love the “Hold” stat when looking at Aumont’s line. 5 batters faced, 4 get on, he gets the loss, yet still qualifies for a hold because he left with the lead.

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  24. Tough pill to swallow that Phillies didn’t get a needed bump in talent in their system via trades. Ricky Bo was on radio and mentioned he thought Kendrick gets dealt this offseason.

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    1. I was surpirsed by that statement by ricky bo. I got that ricky bo thought that kenrick just wasnt someone to keep, maybe the cuba signing was the replacement for kendrick, at 6 million he is cheaper than kenrick will be, and just a opinion maybe a better pitcher, in the phillies mind. I guess the phillies will just offer kenrick a one year deal. and see if someone offers more, and they get a draft pick,

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      1. To get a draft pick following the 2014 season the Phillies would have to extend a qualifying offer to Kendrick. This year that’s looking like a $13.5M offer, with rising salaries (Pedroia just got a big new deal, Cano this off-season, Choo, etc…) I think a qualifying offer after the 2014 season is probably going to be closer to $14m. I can’t see the Phillies giving Kendrick a $14M qualifying offer.

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        1. Kendrick is not a FA until 2014. The Phillies can goto ARB with him this year or trade him if they can find a taker but I doubt a 28 year old with a career WHIP of 1.356 and a K rate below 5 would bring much in return.

          In certainly isn’t worth more then $6 Mil a year on a multi year deal. You can find 4-5 starters for a lot less than that.

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          1. This. I would imagine they will keep him for next year and then let him walk next offseason (or deadline trade him) and replce him with one of Morgan/Biddle/Martin in 2015.

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