Box Score Recap – 7/5/2013

Box Score Recap

Kelly Dugan with a base hit in his AA debut, while 2 hits for Maikel Franco keeps his hot start going – he’s OPSing 1.104 for Reading. Ethan Martin doing Ethan Martiny things – 5bb in 5IP, to go along with 5R and 7H allowed, plus 4ks. After a strong outing last time, Brody Colvin got absolutely bombed on Friday night. I’ll spare you the details, and recommend you avert your eyes at that point in your box-browsing.

Elsewhere, Cameron Perkins returns from the DL with a 1-4 day, while teammate Chris Serritella had a double and a triple in 5 trips to the plate. 16 hits for Lakewood in a losing effort, including 4 from Angelo Mora. And after 2 more doubles, Zach Green’s ISO sits at what I would call a ridiculous .388.

Here’s the affiliate Scoreboard from MiLB.

http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?sid=milb&org=143&ymd=20130705

7-5-2013

86 thoughts on “Box Score Recap – 7/5/2013”

  1. Nice outing from Mario Hollands… again, call him up to Reading and give him a Snickers.

    Mario, you pitch like Brody Colvin when you are in AA, have a bite.

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  2. Luis garcia starting to put it together maybe we trade papelbon and put him to close. Maybe we got our closer in place and we could acquire a real quality bat.

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    1. Any reports on his stuff? He has been lights out at three levels now. Make him a closer? No. But he could help in Philly soon. Why hadn’t I heard of him until this year? He is 26.

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      1. He signed in the offseason as a free agent and he last pitched in the nats org in 2010

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    2. This is the most ridiculous idea I’ve ever heard. DeFratus? Bastardo? Aumont? Diekman? Savery? Ramirez? Giles? Nesseth? No, let’s go right to Garcia and have him close. Great plan. Go back to philly.com

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        1. Garcia pitched in 2010 in A & A+. Wasn’t too effective. He didn’t pitch anywhere in 201. He was possibly injured. Last year, he pitched 16 innings in the Ind. Leagues. The Phils worked him out and gave him a chance. Going back over his career, he wasn’t much of a K guy. Now he averages 9.3 K/9. If I was writing the script, I’d say he had arm surgery within that gap where he didn’t pitch and the arm came back stronger than ever.

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      2. There must be reason jayz just signed him as a client???? Fill in the blank. There must be something there. I personally witnessed a couple of 100 mph 2 seamers last friday.

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        1. What really , I know you need more speed to be a pitcher but why not give him a shot , he’s older and really only needs to be effective for half a year in the bigs , I say if he is as unhittable as the stats and you say go for im kinda over the guy who blows hards on the mound anyway

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      1. Juggs likes this guy. It’s not the first time he’s brought him up. Might be a pal of his or a relative or something, (or maybe Juggs works for the Phils minor leagues, IDK), as he seems to know more about Garcia that anyone else in the world.

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    4. saw him pitch against richmond. big arm, 94-96. whether he can use that to get hitters out remains to be seen, but he has had some good outings so far.

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  3. Speaking of Franco’s hot start it appears others are noticing , MLB.com has him ranked third in the organization now. And I am completely stoked to see Crawford off to a good start.

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    1. Interesting, I was on there a couple days ago and he was 6-8, I’m guessing Jon Mayo’s Top 100 doesn’t change therefore Martin by virtue gets #2.

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  4. Baseball is a funny game. Walding, with the beautiful swing, can’t hit the ball hard anywhere. Zach Green, with the unrefined swing, hits nothing but doubles and HR’s.

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    1. And then from the mound, you have pitchers like Colvin and E.Martin with tremendous stuff, and home- plate must look like a cup saucer to them…truly enigmas.

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  5. Went to the Reading game in Trenton last night (Friday 7/5/13) . Not much of a game, as Brody Colvin was terrible early and Reading couldn’t put any hits together.

    I took some video with my iPhone and posted them on YouTube (links below). Got Franco’s first three AB’s, Dugan’s first thee AB’s, Hewitt’s first two, and one of Collier’s.

    Was working on half a battery life so I didn’t film Colvin at all. Which is actually a good thing. He looked lost. Decent velocity (probably low 90’s, maybe got up to 93ish on one swinging strike I recall), and in a vacuum, his curveball looked OK. Decent bite on it…was more like a 10-4 curveball than a 12-6 though. However…I don’t think he threw the curveball for a strike, and they did not chase it at all. Combine that with no command of his fastball and it made for a long two innings for Colvin. Did not throw many strikes, and gave up a lot of hits to a weak-hitting Trenton team. To be honest though, a lot of the hits were not hit hard, but still, 9 hits and 4 walks in 2 innings I believe. And there must have been 2 or 3 passed balls/wild pitches.

    As far as the offense, not much to get excited about. Franco did have good AB’s, and ended up with a bloop single to right center and single on a bouncer up the middle off the second baseman’s glove. In my amateur opinion, Franco did not look as painfully slow as they say. Just looked like a lumbering runner, but again I didn’t clock him or anything. He also made a pretty nice play on a ball to his left and showed a strong arm on the only ball hit to him. Oh and he made a heads up play backing up a throw from Suomi over Colvins head covering home after a wild pitch. Franco picked up the overthrow and threw behind the runner at 2nd base and picked him off to end the inning.

    Dugan hit the ball hard once, but right at the RF. He had an infield single on a bouncer up the middle that he beat out later in the game. No plays in right really, just a couple singles hit in front of him, but I thought his arm looked decent on one throw to hit a cutoff guy on a throw to third.

    One other note — Duran looked good at SS. Made a great play to his left on a hard hit short hopper then made strong throw to 1st and also turned a nice double play early.
    I also filmed Hewitt first two AB’s and Colliers first AB because well, there weren’t many interesting players to film for Reading haha.

    Here’s the youtube links:

    My page with all the videos: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXdrbJfuznQMG2Qnp17V3ew/videos

    Franco’s AB’s:

    Dugan’s AB’s:

    Hewitt’s AB’s:

    Collier:

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      3. ty for the video. I didnt think franco looked that slow. maybe the video is in fast forward?

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    3. Thanks for the video … it’s great to see some worthwhile hitting prospects making their way into the Reading lineup.

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    4. Nice Videos , Thanks for the coverage , and to add on Franco didnt seem as slow as i thought although in my line of work i see some really slow runners , but hey if they can improve their speed I dont see why Franco couldn’t gain a step or two

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    2. I spoke to Quinn on Wed. He said he was hoping to be back in a few weeks but more likely a month +

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    1. Brian – I was at the game last night. The on and off drizzle probably contributed, but it was truly a boring game in every sense of the word. Watching a 24yr old Hollands go for the Threshers didn’t help (BTW – he’ll be 25 in 7 weeks) and some less than impressive hitting is an understatement. I was particularly bothered when the Threshers didn’t bunt (Altherr at-bat) after Alonso walked to lead off the bottom of the ninth in a tie game. That was a perfect opportunity to teach the youngsters about fundamentals – let alone the fact that you’re trying to win the ballgame. A few other factors to consider there; Atherr was followed by Serritella and then Perkins and I like my chances a hell of a lot better with those two up and Alonso standing on 2nd with one out than I do with Alonso standing on 1B with no out and Altherr swinging away. And the field was wet, very wet. Bunt is the right play there

      All in all, the fireworks after the 11-inning game were the highlight. And before I get ridiculed for liking fireworks, consider that the woman on my arm likes fireworks, therefore I like fireworks.

      😉

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      1. Charlie manuel doesnt bunt his players. and this team has th worse fundementals, in the league, Now we know why, the system lacks the coaching to teach the game the right way.

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        1. The fact that Manuel does not like to bunt his players is one of his best qualities. Sac bunts are one of the very worst plays in the game. If you don’t like scoring runs, though, then yeah, more sac bunts would be nice.

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          1. ‘Sac bunts are one of the very worst plays in the game.’…I need definitive analysis backed up by empirical studies showing that. Has BP, which has done numerous studies on different aspects of the game, or BA ever done any studies?

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            1. HERE is my study tie game. top of ninth first man gets on. if you dont bunt him to second, then you dont know how to play the game. You force the other team, to play in, in the outfield cause you have a running on second who is potential winning run.The pitcher has to be more careful and you put all the pressure on the other team. that is baseball. But stats guys dont know the game .

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            2. Yes…I have played the game for centuries myself and know a little about pressuring the other guy. But just want to see if there were any facts alluding to what LarryM had posted.

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            5. You really have no idea the level of contempt – and, at the same time, pity – I have for cowardly ignoramuses such as yourself. On the substance:

              That’s a very specific situation that doesn’t come up all that often. Even that situation is a little less clear cut than you say – it really depends on who is at the plate – but yes, usually in that situation a bunt is justified. (Bottom of the ninth, same situation, it is probably closer to 100%, assuming you have a guy at the plate who you think can get a good bunt down). However, my guess is that Manuel bunts in that situation 99% of the time. The fact is that EVERY manager bunts in the situations where it is a positive play, and most also bunt in situations where it is NOT a positive play.

              The situations where a sac bunt is a good play do exist, but are rare.

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            7. Well at some point do you think you can find the time? We don’t pay you big money for nothing!

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            8. I will. 🙂 And I’ll try to be a bit more thick skinned, but the attitude of certain self righteous mathematical illiterates around here steams me.

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            9. Understand…..but the little I have found on the subject…rather older studies but nevertheless the game hasn’t changed for ages, so IMO they are reliable. it would appear that it is not a good play the majority of the time. In the AL, with a DH…should be rarely ever used.

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            1. Yes, it indeed does. And Manueal has a very good grasp of those fairly rare situations when it does have its place.

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            2. James Click of BP says:
              Below are the AVG, OBP, and SLG for several players in a season. The second column, called Breakeven, is the batting average that our theoretical Batter One–who hits nothing but singles–would have to hit above to make sacrificing detrimental to run expectation:

              Player Year Breakeven AVG OBP SLG
              Barry Bonds 2001 .075 .328 .517 .863
              Mike Cameron 2002 .120 .239 .342 .442
              Todd Helton 2000 .162 .372 .470 .698
              Alfonso Soriano 2002 .170 .300 .336 .547
              Alex Cora 2003 .183 .249 .288 .338
              Ichiro Suzuki 2001 .243 .350 .384 .457

              Interestingly, Barry Bonds and Ichiro Suzuki are the low and high ends of the spectrum, both during MVP seasons. Thus, we can conclude that, in this simple case, no matter who is coming up next, any batter hitting below .075 should always sacrifice, while any batter hitting better than .243 should never sacrifice. If nothing else, this conclusion lends further credibility to the idea that pitchers should almost always sacrifice if given the opportunity.

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            3. I think the Japanese sac bunt well , and they seem to kick everybody’s asre in the WBC , also wouldn’t it make sense to sac bunt against a really tough pitcher early in a game to get a run , as well as late in a game against a closer or once again so your pitcher doesnt smack an inning ending double play shot to the shortstop , seems to me the sac bunt is essential part of the winning , unless everybody on your team just rakes and your pitcher doesnt have to hit and you never play in close games. so you are right

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            5. If I were Jim Leiland I would never bunt ( just kidding ) , well almost never bunt unless it was for a hit and not a sac , and then that is not true either. I might bunt sometimes , there is always a time for it. late in the game when teams start to change pitching according to who is hitting could have some value there, Its just smart baseball to have it as an option. It is also wise to move the runner on to second base as it can be slightly more the in pitchers head. Or a bunt to third and get a runner to third , with less than one out. it can cut down on a double play percentages when you have a slower runner. But like you say with a DH it definitely decreases its value , although batting 9th in the AL right now means you might hit below 243. so maybe you should bunt. Im sure there is more examples , And I would not bunt my 3 , 4 , 5 hitters unless it was a very and I mean very special situation like almost never

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            6. Work on your spelling, it’s Jim Leyland. And what does this have to do with yesterday’s box scores?

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            7. Work on your punctuation – you should have used a hyphen, not a comma. And what does criticizing spelling have to do with box scores? Take it to the Merriam-Webster blog.

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            8. Read the comments previous to mine and if you can read you will know what im talking about. Captain no name spelling bee champ. And its a proper noun it happens and auto correct has something to do with it

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      2. You’re not kidding. Went last night- at least Perkins was back. Seritella looked good at the plate also. Hollands also made it worth the trip

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      3. Couldn’t agree with you more on bunting with Alterr- who cares if he’s your #3 hitter. Truby definitely made a poor decision in letting Hollands pitch the 9th. I Get that he wanted to let him go for the shutout, but it was obvious, he was lucky to get through the 7th and 8th. They hit 5 balls very hard off him in those innings.

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    1. I cheer for all the minor league Phillies , but don’t really have an affinity for Carlos , what makes you a fan of this particular individual

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    1. I, too, would like to play shortstop in the big leagues. I think there’s roughly an equal chance of either of us doing so.

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    1. I’ve said this before and was ridiculed by quite a few on here , but we are gonna have a log jam at SS with Crawford , and Quinn , next year they will only be a level apart and could find themselves on the same team the following year

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      1. They MAY be only one level apart next year. In addition, they MAY BE on the same team two years from now. You were probably “ridiculed” because you are projecting a logjam two years in the future if everything breaks exactly like you are describing even though that almost NEVER happens in the minors.

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        1. how do you figure , are you saying teams never have a prospect who moves quickly through the system to catch up to another prospect , well that is pretty narrow minded and next year Crawford will be at Williamsport and Quinn unless he absolutely torches low A when he returns from a two month injury will more than likely repeat , And I can read just fine and understand where your emphasizes are without such childish capitalizations to let me know you are right by being somehow more boisterous with you tone , so thanks for all that useful information filled with facts and examples

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          2. It’s still, at best, premature to be thinking or worrying about having both of them at the same level. For one, Quinn’s underlying numbers are not that different at Lakewood than they were in W-port. I’m not so sure he’ll repeat the level. But even if he does, I think he’d have a good chance of finishing next year in Clearwater anyway. If they do end up at the same level, it will probably be in AA or AAA, rather than A ball. By then, who knows what either guy will look like as a prospect?

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            1. Both are valid points you make there , Quinn probably would be premoted if he does repeat , And Im not worried Im kinda excited to see what could be the phills two best prospects playing the same position a level apart in a year or two. I know its premature but I like what Im seeing from Crawford and already love Quinns speed.

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          3. I watched Crawford play short this week and saw Quinn play 2 games there last year at WP. I know the sample couldn’t be any smaller, but Crawford looked to be at a whole different level from Quinn. I strongly believe that Quinn will end up in CF.

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            1. maniac19……..thats all I needed to hear. You have put an end to all the debates over moving Quinn off ss. He shold be moved in the fall and ST to CF and promoted to CLW to keep his upward mobility current.

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            3. There really is no question that Crawford is way more polished at SS than is Quinn. Still, you don’t move Quinn from SS unless it’s abundantly clear he can’t play the position. That said, I agree it’s likely that eventually Quinn will move to another position

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      2. Quinn plays SS until it’s absolutely clear he can’t handle the position. You don’t move him to a less valuable position because there’s another prospect in the system who plays the same position, even if they are a level apart.

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      3. That’s a good problem to have sf dan. It will work itself out probably without the need for any drastic moves. Much can happen between now and then

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        1. for sure no drastic move is needed , and I 100 percent agree with you about it being a good problem , one I am looking forward to debating in the future about who is better at what and what they will become.

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  13. I am tweeting amaro, tell him to move crawford up to lakewood, i want to go to a game there.

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  14. JP with 4 singles, no steals. Cord Sandberg hit into 3 double plays behind Crawford today.
    My man Jan Hernandez ran into one today. That could get him going.

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    1. No doubt checking out Mikael Franco’s ABS! Arm-bar swing.
      Expecting another eval of Franco soon.

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    2. That’s why I value Keith Law’s opinion more than Sickles’. Law sees these guys.
      Franco must have received the tweet. He hit a HR. What a show off.

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  16. The 3rd base “problem” is one worth discussion, Both players seem destined for the bigs soon with Asche possibly coming up soon when M Young is traded. Franco supposedly is seen to be heading to AAA LV in ’14 after he competes in the winter league.

    Franco’s fielding seems to be worthy of a MLB 3rd baseman, perhaps bordering on the “superior.” So it certainly not for emphasis on his fielding that the winter lg is to be used. Asche, getting his debut this season (why wouldn’t they trade M Young to Red Sox or Yankers who are said to be interested), would give us a glimpse of his promise.

    Now, posit this: Franco beats up pitchers in winter ball. Creates havoc like he has shown us. Could he, along w Asche, compete for third base in ST? Is it at all a good idea to get Asche some reps at 2nd base…at LV IF Franco wins that ST contest? Hard to switch these two positions– much tougher at 2nd base: double play pivots and throws, range factor greater there, covering first base on a bunt, etc.

    Also, such a switch at this late in his minor lg career with his successful climb quickly through the system might be disconcerting. Don’t want to harm his apparent promise…so early w/o giving him the place he has played for.

    There are those who denigrate Asche’s skills. I don’t agree, even though I am concerned about his record Re: lefty pitchers. He IS a hitter with more power on the horizon thiough not likely to be as much as Franco. A good player to develop further as he plays. Maybe ultimately as 25 HR/season.

    So, let’s keep him!

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  17. Still too early to worry about moving Asche off 3B.
    Franco will either be a 3B or 1B. Franco should not be in the discussion for starting 3B for 2014. Even if Franco dominates ST (kinda like Tommy Joseph in 2013), he should get placed at either AA or AAA to get him more time under less pressure. If he dominates again then he can be considered for another promotion.

    Asche will likely be at 3B in MLB at end of this year. If he is hitting in Sept, the Phillies will likely have no problem with Asche and Frandsen at the starting platoon for 2014.
    Depending on how well Asche is doing in 2014 then Phillies could entertain moving him to OF. I know his bat does not ‘profile’ to the OF but who cares, if he is hitting and Franco is ready then I am sure he could be a quick learner.

    That’s a bunch of ifs including no injuries to any parties involved and no trades and both players are playing well.
    Same scenario can apply to Crawford/Quinn. I would like to see if Cesar Hernandez could play SS though.
    Is this what it is like having top prospects at same position, like good organizations (Rangers SS depth is awesome)?

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