Box Score Recap 7-15-2012

Box Score Recap

OMG, Larry Greene only has 1 homerun! Where’s the power?

Oh yeah, Larry Greene hit a homerun on Sunday.  Sorry I didn’t mention that first.

I added the DSL ASG Pitchers’ box as it’s the only place where we had a Phillies’ player, (Gregorio Santos).  No hitters participated.

LV  REA  CLR  LKW  WIL  GCL Off  DSL ASG  VSL Off

66 thoughts on “Box Score Recap 7-15-2012”

  1. One of the most entertaining parts of looking at these box scores is the circus that is Kenneth Giles. A hit, 3 walks, 3 Ks, 2 runs and still ends up with a save. LOL!!

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    1. Is it just me, but I sort of mentally assume I am looking at Kenny Powers’ results when I see Giles in a box score?

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  2. Good to see Kelly Dugan swinging the bat well. Why only 4 innings from Ethan Stewart? Ken Giles looks like he has a bit of Mitch Williams in him with that line score.

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  3. I know that I look at Garner with rose-colored glasses, but his start was pretty good. 5 of the six hits he gave up were on ground balls. Plus his walks were down. If only he hadn’t made two errors, it might have been even better.

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    1. Garner is starting to come around. His BB rate (his biggest issue) has improved over the last few starts, and I think the K rate is better as well. He needs to build on this and keep improving.

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  4. It warms my heart to see Gillies playing CF and leading off. The guy has been through a lot yet still seems to have some ability and is still not too old at 23.

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    1. I saw he was hit by a pitch and James replaced him in the field. With Gillies I always think the worst. “They call me Mr. Glass.”

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      2. I thought I remember hearing he wasn’t going to play 9 innings at first anyway. It could be they planned on taking him out before he got hit.

        /mroptimistic

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  5. I went to the Lakewood game yesterday. Here were my takeaways:
    – Dugan and Duffy looked great at the plate. Scolded the ball every time up. Really hitting line drives all over the field. I was very impressed with both players. the opposing pitcher was throwing consistently 94/95 and they were crushing it.
    – Dugan looked good (not great) in the outfield. Showed decent athleticism making one diving catch. Arm looked ok, not great. Strong, but not very accurate arm.
    – Lino looked really really impressive behind the plate. He made two plays I would call MLB caliber. One was a great block of the plate, where he tagged the runner out. Runner got there about same time as the ball, but his block saved the run. Second awesome play is he threw a runner out trying to steal second base with a laser that was on target…and he didn’t get off of his knees. You read that right, he threw out a runner from his knees with a perfect strike. I was blown away at this play.
    – Altherr did not look good a the plate. His tripple was a solid line drive, but his other plate appearances looked lost.
    – Ludy looked good at the plate. Looked like he was in control every at bat. Looked polished.
    – Stewart did not look impressive at all. Mostly sat in high 80s. They hit the ball very hard. I came away thinking “career minor leaguer”.
    – Trey Ford had a very nice play on a Double Play. He snagged the ball going up the middle. Didn’t look like much at the plate though.

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    1. Move Duffy up already…… hes 24 and hitting 380….

      Good to see Gillies back at it…

      Good start by Pettibone…

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    3. Some of Gab Lino’s defensive abilities have been lauded by scouts, with such a strong arm…and he is 19! Its his bat that may take time.

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    4. Thanks a lot for the first-hand report, vlagain. I appreciate it! Good to hear that Dugan looked good.

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    5. Happy to hear the defensive report on Dugan. It’s been good to see his batting average jumping every week, some good health and confidence has done wonders for him.

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    6. When I was on vacation last week, I was able to attend 3 Lakewood games, in one of the games Ethan Steward was the starting pitcher and he appeared quite impressive as he was throwing mid 90’s heat. Generally he was pitching at 92-93-94 but he did reached 96 on some of the scouts radar guns in addition to the stadium gun on a couple of occasions. He throws from the 3/4 or low 3/4 slot. He appears to throw four pitches: fastball, curve, slider and change-up. While he does tend to lose the strike zone for periods of time, he seems to have good movement on all his pitches. If he was only throwing in the high 80’s yesterday then he may have been hurt and that could be why he was removed after only 4 innings.

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      1. I can’t imagine how he could have so few K’s throwing in the mid 90s. This is different from scouting reports on him, and I’d be more likely to think that there is a fast guy in LWD.

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        2. Wasn’t Julian Sampson a hard thrower? Pettibone too. Velocity doesn’t always equal Ks. But if the scouting reports usually say high 80s then I’d also bet on a fast gun.

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          1. It was not a fast gun. The reading on the stadium gun was consistent with the reading on three radar guns of scouts sitting near me.

            I sat in section 108 in row 10 right behind home plate. There was a scout holding a radar gun seated one row ahead of me one seat to the left, in the row in front of him directly in front of me was another scout with a radar gun. I could read both these gun just by looking forward. A two man scouting team was located a couple seats to the right in the row directly in front of me. On one of the 96 mph readings he showed the reading to his scouting partner which gave me a chance to read that gun too.

            I might add that there were between 15 and 20 scouts with radar guns at that game in addition to Lakewood’s 2 idle starting pitchers with guns and Hickory’s 2 idle starting pitchers with guns. So I find it hard to believe that all 4 radar guns could be fast.

            You may ask how could I know that these people with radar guns are scouts? Not only do they have the radar guns in their left hand, in their right hand they have a stop watches and a pen, on their laps they have several different charts on a clipboard in their laps. They also have a bag which includes a laptop computer and they also bring their own food and drink so they do not have to leave their seats.

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            1. Thanks for that further insight. Absolutely shocking to me that Stewart is bringing that kind of heat.

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  6. Move Duffy up already, hes 24 and hitting 386…

    Nice start by Pettibone..

    Good to see GIllies back at it

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    1. Agree totally but it seems to me the FO wants nothing but older org filler at AAA so where do you put him? Ruf should be moved up at this point based on production and age which would open a spot for Duffy at Reading.

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    2. Duffy already struggled in CLW this year, why move him back up? The LKW team’s offense was abysmal so it is a positive for the team to have someone who can really hit to help them score a few more runs. At this point he looks like he has a future as someone who can be a good minor league bat for a team filled with young guys.

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      1. In his defense he only had maybe 80 PA’s at CLW and now has almost 200 at LKW. For his career he is over 600 PA’s and carries .402 OBP and .890 OPS. I don’t know what his future is and I’m sure they know better than we do.

        If it were me at 24 I’d want to see what he can do at AA and mostly because I think Ruf deserves to be moved up a level.

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      2. There’s a chance he figured something out and could be crushing the ball at a higher level too. We won’t know until he moves up.

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        1. Why fix something that isn’t broken? LWD, and their prospects, has made a complete turnaround since he came.

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          1. That’s the most important part. Some “org. guys/fillers” are great influences to have in a lineup. The ones in particular I’m thinking of are Murphy, Spidale & I’m assuming Duffy now. These guys might be able to play in AAA or AA, but their main purpose is to help the younger guys develop. Sort of teach them about professionalism, be a team leader, and help with their approaches at the plate.

            Lakewood is probably the one team that needs that type of leadership considering how raw guys like Altherr, Hudson, etc. are.

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  7. I’m loving Larry Greene’s start at Willimsport. Statistically, I think LGj can make an argument that he is one of the 2-3 best position prospects in the NYPenn league so far, (along with Danry Vasquez and Andrew Aplin).

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    2. I don’t know, I would probably put Sabol, Naquin, and maybe Barnes ahead of him. And maybe Tarsten Boss because his name rules.

      But that’s all splitting hairs – he has had a very good start and looks to be one of the top hitting prospects in the league (so far, small sample, yada yada yada).

      It is also nice to see him outperforming Brandon Nimmo.

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      1. Juco, College, College, and College. Age/experience matters, and high drafted college kids should absolutely be outperforming HS kids.

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      2. I was trying to incorporate ‘age to level’, when I said that LGj may be one of the best 3 position players in that league. Vasquez is just 18, and has a .380 OBP, and good K%. Aplin, while being a college player, is hitting, stealing and playing a premium position. LGj has the highest OBP and the 2nd highest OPS, of any player under 21 in the league.
        LGj is only 19. I don’t see any other college player’s stats putting them clearly above LGj at the present.

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        1. I understand all this. I was also trying to incorporate BABIP, K%, where they were drafted, defensive ability, and scouting reports. But like I said it is all splitting hairs. He’s looking great, it’s all very exciting.

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    3. @ Mitch Rupert: Since you see the guys in the NY-Penn league, where do our prospects fall in that league?

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      1. Boy, that’s an interesting question. I think Tyler Naquin has been the most complete players I’ve seen this year. If he’s not the best all-around center fielder in the league, I’d love to see the guy who is better. I didn’t make the New York trip so I didn’t see Sabol. I haven’t seem Barnes since opening week and he only had a couple hits, but everything I’ve seen and read from Guy Cipriano at the Centre Daily Times leads me to believe he is quite legit.

        I think Greene is probably the only of the prospects is nominate for a league Top 10 right now. I think his overall approach at the plate is fantastic. He’s learning he doesn’t have to muscle the ball put of the ballpark and he can just take a nice, easy swing and his natural strength is going to juice the ball. And nobody will care if he becomes a 35-40 homer guy, but his defense is much improved in left field. A week and a half into the season I’d have said he’s destined for first base, now I think he’ll stick. He’s not going to come across fields where he’ll have to cover as much ground as he does at Bowman Field, so I think playing a season here will help him dramatically.

        I think Walding is the most polished of the prospects. He might have the best understanding of the game, right now he seems to be working on a couple mechanical hitches that have him frustrated. But hes got a short, compact swing and keeps the bat in the hitting zone a long time. He’s got soft hands at third and a rifle arm. He’ll learn how to make backhand plays better the more of them he gets.

        Roman Quinn is obviously the most exciting of the prospects just because his ceiling is so high. He’s bunting less which means he’s getting more confident in his swing from the left side. He even juiced one to the center field warning track Saturday might from the left side. He’ll probably run into a couple homers a year in less cavernous parks. I’m still not concerned defensively, as I’ve said here a couple times. He shows the tools to play really good defense, it’s all about repetitions for him.

        I think the likes of Naquin, Barnes, Andrew Aplin, Sabol and even Chris Serritella are the more polished prospects of the league, but they’re college guys, they should be. The fact that Greene, Walding and Quinn are standing out with them is a good sign.

        I think you’d have to put Greene in the top 10 right now and coyle make an argument for top 5. Quinn, Walding and even Serritella should probably be in the 10-20 range. If we’re adding in pitchers, I still think they’re all top 30 guys.

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  8. Happy to see Gillies back and Brown on the way. Let’s free up some space in the MLB outfield after 8/1 and see what happens. We need some youth and athleticism in that lineup.

    What is the deal with Duffy? Why not move him along, the guy is on fire!!

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    1. Don’t know that it should be retired but the requirements to record a save should be much more strict. Also foolish when they give 7th/8th inning relievers blown saves when they give up runs.

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      1. Basically what I meant. I guess “the save as we know it” would be a better way to refer to it. I’m all for rewarding a player that does his job (well). But if an elite reliever (closer) is identified by his ability to allow fewer than 3 runs in an inning (as opposed to allowing only 1 or none), then maybe relievers have no place in professional baseball…

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      2. Totally Agree about the Blow Save.
        If a pitcher realistically will not earn a save if he pitches perfectly, it does not make sense.
        Make a new stat such as a “Blown Hold” or something.

        And yes, the “Save” stat needs to be tightened quite a bit

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  10. LGJ has a lot to like in his performance thus far. He’s got the monkey off his back after hitting yesterdays bomb, hopefully he can follow that up with a HR ever 6 games or so for the remainder of the year. A 18 year old with a slash of 300/415/550 (the SLG is projected) has a whooollle lot of appeal, at any position (though I think he sticks in LF/RF). I also happen to believe that is his upside at the major league level based on what i’ve seen in this admitably small sample size. Chance to realize…5%…but even still.

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    2. If he puts up 300/415/550 he’d be top 50, at worst, in the final end of year rankings. I’d be *THRILLED* with 280/350/475.

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      1. Larry Greene has me spoiled, right now. If he ended the season with a .280 avg, I would expect him to have at least a .375 OBP. But you are right, we should be happy with an .825 OPS out of any 19 year old in that league.

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  11. Cant help but think what a healthy Brown and Gilles over the last 2 years could have meant for the big club going into 2013…
    If they had the Minor League AB’s you could have been looking at LF and CF. Influx of talent and not adding to the payroll.
    Going into the year I think the biggest need in the organization was to have some of the A and Low A position players make some serious strides forward. Dugan, Franco, Collier, Asche, and the Williamsport kids have done that and then some. Going along with May, Biddle, Pettibone, JRod, Colvin, and Bonilla there is some interesting debates as far as rounding out the Top 10 prospects in my opinion.

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    1. I’m looking forward to the Cozens, LGj, Walding and Tocci, Top 10 debates in the offseason.

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      1. I think tocci being in the top 10 at the end of this year will be a tough nut to crack for him…

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  12. Walding came out on fire and has since cool off a lttle offensively lately. The good news is it looks like he is doing better defensively.Also, we are a third of the way thru the short season and he has held 300+ average over the entire time. He is 19 and has been going back & forth with Serritell,a college All American.I would say he has a good future .

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  13. Even though it’s very early for the GCL guys, you have to love that lineup today. Seven of the starting 9 are hitting .300 or better (Mora, Pullin, Carmona, Astudillo, Cozens, Z. Green & Tocci). How did Tromp and Cardoza get in that lineup. Oh well, I guess they have to give the opposing team a break once in a while.

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