Box Score Recap 7-1-2012

Box Score Recap

Altherr’s stats are actually looking pretty good this year.  Ks remain pretty bad, but walks are near 8.5%, better for him.  20/26 stealing bases.  He’s still a nice prospect, IMO.

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78 thoughts on “Box Score Recap 7-1-2012”

  1. I’d like to believe some favorable news about some of our outfielders. Altherr is one of them who could develop his physical skills but how long do we have to wait for completion of that job? We are developing some interesting infielders from ’11 and Cesar for 2nd base who should be on the big roster 25 sometime in ’13.

    Gillies could provide a giant lift if he’d regain his health, escape from the DL prison, and pick up where he left off for his (latest) injury. And, it seems that Dom Brown has succumbed to that same bug. Dom has a history of injuries throughout his minor lg career. Question is: how far from maybe the Best Prospect of ’10 has he fallen?–maybe out of the Phils OF picture. The FO must be at sixes and sevens about this ultimate frustrating guy. Maybe he will be included in a trade for a team that still respects his potential.

    Not many standouts in our outfielders…and that lack should be answered in part via coming trade(s).

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    1. Is Castro considered a prospect. The number of doubles he produced so far this year is an attention getter.

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      1. His KK and B rates suggest he could be met with a lot of struggles when his BABIP normalizes.

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      2. My take on the general feeling of the commenters here – he might have a shot at being a bench OF at best. Main point in his favor is he has some pop and can handle himself in the field. Main con is what Anon said above. BB rate doesn’t bode well.

        As for this season, he’s hitting a lot of line drives, (25% rate versus 15% and 12% the last two years), which is in part fueling a high BABIP (.350 on the year, compared with .293 and .287 his last two seasons). If he slumps later in the year, his numbers should come back down to earth.

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          1. True, but that’s a huge gap year over year, and it coincides with a higher BABIP, which makes sense.

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  2. I have to admit that I’m now getting interested in Lakewood. I started the year really excited about the team, but after a while I didn’t even want to look at the boxscore. Since the All-Star game, Altherr, Duffy, and even Franco and Hudson are interesting. Altherr is on a tear (no pun intended). Duffy is over .400 and some time with Howard really lifted him (as if he needed any lifting). Franco is .167 with no one on and.293 with runners in scoring position. So it’s not his fault he’s hitting in the low, low .200s. It’s his teammates. They need to get onbase more. As for Hudson, I can’t even believe I’m mentioning the name Hudson, his month by month numbers are absolutely shocking. In April he hit .162, May .222, June .313. What???? .313???? They sat him on the bench for most of the month. But he finished the month with a 5 game hitting streak and batting .450 in that stretch. The sample size in miniscule but it’s enough to keep me coming back for more. In a very weird twist, Hudson can’t buy a SB lately. It seemed like earlier in the year he had more SBs than hits. Now he’s getting a few hits and he’s got putouts and he’s getting caught stealing. Maybe the baseball gods are saying he’s still going to make outs but at this time they’ll give him the hits and then take it all away on the base paths.

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    1. If you really think Franco is having a rough year because his teammates aren’t getting on base for him you know nothing about baseball. Average with RISP is not a projectable stat, it is pretty much meaningless to project going forward.

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      2. You must be new here. I’m known to inject a little humor with my words of wisdom (if there are such things). It’s always fun to research the stats and look for certain trends and then come up with a reason; wise or otherwise. We like to have a little fun around here as well as discuss the state and future state of Phillies baseball. Sit back and enjoy the ride. When Marfis and LarryM get going, Remember to get out of the way because a freight train might run you over.

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        1. You sure? I’ve been reading here a lot and see you use RBI and runs scored in your arguments for Castro being a prospect and plenty of other nonsense. I had reason to believe you were being serious.

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    2. It would be really nice to see franco make more contact going forward, he has so few hits but a very respectable percentage of them going for extra bases. I think there are a lot of things to like about his season despite his low average, considering he’s still 19 yo.

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  3. I am amaze at how many walks larry greene is taking. and dont like quinn strikeouts, he has a 400 obp yet srtikesout 1 of 4 times. if he ever can cut down those strikeouts we will have somthing,and dont care if he cant play short move him to outfield, carver imo is a bad fielder from the small sample that i have seen,franco to me is the most interesting prospect, he was put at a young age in a little high league than he should imo. struggles, yet the phillies scouts and fo are convience he is going to be good,makes you wonder. uhhh couldnt you say i dont think that is the case and state a fact, instead of telling him he know nothing about baseball. prove the point instead of the scarcaism.

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    2. If we want a young player like Quinn to work counts and draw walks, he will also draw his fair share of Ks. To draw a walk you need to get in lots of 2-strike counts. Nothing to worry about this early. 21.5% K rate is in line with what one expects these days, especially considering how the game has changed.

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    3. A lot of people have commented positively on LGJ’s walks. Am I the only one who would rather see a young guy prove he can hit line drives first and add discipline later? I think it is great he can take a walk but if I had to choose, in general I’d take a young guy who is making lots of hard contact over a young guy taking lots of walks.

      I recognize this is a small sample and these guys have probably all been asked to work on specific parts of their games, so who knows what the future holds. I would just take more comfort if he were matching all those walks with a 31% K rate.

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      2. He does seem to have a little Domingo Santana in him- he just refuses to take the bat off his shoulder.

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        1. Speaking of Santana- .900 OPS with eleven dingers in A+. Still striking out a ton, but regardless he’s having a great season.

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      3. I think we’ve seen so, so, so many prospects who struggle with plate discipline that when it seems like we’ve got a young guy who possesses that skill we get super excited. I don’t know which is the easier skill to develop, but I think it’s nice to at least have a couple guys who aren’t afraid to take pitches.

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      4. The walks lead to hard contact. Easier to square up on a good pitch. Swing as hard as you want at a bad pitch, it’s still an infield grounder.

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  4. Asche 1-3 with 2 BB … Hopefully he’s finding a comfort level at the plate in Reading. Franco continues to raise his average, and the Williamsport quadruplets — Quinn, Serritella, Walding, LG Jr. — all with knocks as well. Very fun to check these box scores every day.

    Musser … yikes.

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  5. Savery needs to stop his free-fall with a couple good outings. Things not going so good for him right now.

    That Williamsport lineup is fun to track. Quinn, Walding and Greene have each shown a knack for getting on-base. It’s too small of a sample to drawn any trends from, but it’s certainly better than seeing our ‘toolsy’ prospects with 1 BB and 18K at this stage. Pointer, Serritella, Perkins; the list goes on. Fun team. The only one looking lost right now is Tyler, who ironically was the one to start the season at low-A

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    1. Why’s everyone saying Tyler is so lost? Is it just cause one person said it so everyone is saying it? He is improving on his numbers from Lakewood and probably showing the best power out of LGJ, Walding, And pointer

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      1. Because he’s striking out nearly 40% of the time. I’m not down on him or dismissing him as a prospect, I’m simply pointing out that he is probably struggling the most out of our higher profile prospects. It’s still early though. A couple good games can make his slash look fine, but his early going K rate is alarming

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      2. Granted he has only a small sampling of PAs, a little over 200 in his pro career, however the K% of almost 40% still needs to come down someway. That is just too high.

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      3. I think a few people have said he looks a little lost. I saw him 2 weeks ago and he looked a little lost. Not sure what’s going on. I still thinks he’s a great prospect he is just having some trouble.

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  6. @Art D. I think Dom is very much a part of the Phillies future. Are you just going to discard him?? The big club can officially stop chasing 2008. I suspect he’ll be up playing everyday shortly after the AS Break. He was supposed to resume “baseball activities” last Thursday. After the debacle in Florida, its really unrealistic for the Phillies to reach 85 wins and make the playoffs. They would have to play .620 baseball the rest of the year. I cant see that happening.

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    1. One would have to assume if the towel is tossed in at the end of this month, well see both Brown and Mayberry playing everyday in LF and CF for the last two months of the year, to see what assumptions can be made going into 2013. IMO, Mayberry has proven himself to be a valuable 4th or 5th OF and deserves a bench role next year, as such. I think we can all agree he will not be the next Jayson Werth. As for Brown, hopefully he can establish himsef as a regular, everyday player and I believe he will. If not, he should at least be a platoon guy next year who plays 60-70% of the time vs rhp.

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      1. Agreed. Brown can still be an impact bat. Now we need to see if he can play defense in the NL. I feel this is going to be a short experiment as far as his outfield defense is concerned though. I saw some of his outfield errors in person, and many of them we’re badly misplayed. You don’t invest half your payroll on pitching and then throw a guy in the outfield who can’t field his position. If he minimize his lapses after his call up then I could see him in RF next year (I’m contending that Pence will be one of the players traded if the Phils fall out of contention). Otherwise we might be sending him to Houston so he can serve as their DH next year.

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      2. The whole next Jayson Werth thing re Mayberry always seemed ridiculous to me. Guys like Werth who put it all together out of nowhere are extremely rare, and Mayberry had none of the injuries that held Werth back. It’d be like if the Mets tried to teach every failing pitching prospect they had the knuckleball on the theory that, hey, maybe he’ll turn into the next RA Dickey. That said, I think that even if neither Mayberry nor Brown are quite the player the Phillies hoped they might be, they could still make a productive LF platoon. I don’t see the team relying on either of those guys to play center for a full season.

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      3. This is probably a discussion for the other thread, but I think the Phillies actually had a pretty good situation in LF, that is, Mayberry was supposed to play against lefties, and Nix would play against righties. It probably would have worked too, had Nix not gotten hurt. I think Mayberry could be a very useful guy to have as one half of a platoon split.

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  7. I have been impressed with Blake Mascarello seems to throw nothing but ground balls. He was promoted to Lakewood recently and is effective at that level. The other ground ball pitcher is Kyle Simon. He did well for Reading yesterday.

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  8. Kyle Simon had his AA debut, his Phillies organizational debut, and his first relief appearance of the year and pitched well. Hopefully it is a sign of good things go come.

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    1. It looks like they assigned that catcher Lino to Lakewood. He’s a big kid 6’3″ 200 lbs and he’s hit 4 HRs and 13 2Bs so he has some pop. He hit .282 in the GCL last year so he can hit the ball. He’s not hitting it consistently but he only turned 19 in May. He has 12 Errors and 14 PBs in 51 games so I’m not sure of his defensive prowess. He throws out 27% of basestealers. For comparison purposes, Valle played at Lakewood in his 19th year. In 101 games he had 9 Es and 12 PBs while throwing out 33% of basestealers. Let’s see how he progresses.

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  9. Most impressed with Walding and Quinn thus far. Did anyone see Wrights outing 7 K’s and 7 Runs in 5 innings. I see he let up 2 HR’s. Does anyone know how many of his K’s are swing and miss K’s?

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    1. I did not see Wright’s outing, but being the resident Wright optimist, I feel I ought to respond. 5 of his 7 Ks were swinging. He does seem to get a lot of swings and misses.

      However, only allowing 4 hits and 2 walks yet 7 runs takes real “talent”. The four hits were two 2Bs and 2 HRs. Those are the bad kind of hits to give up.

      Through four innings he looked really good – 6Ks, 2 BBs, 1 hit (a HR). The fifth inning was a mess – error, 2B, K, FC, error, 2B, HR, GO, FO.

      All in all, a very unusual game.

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      1. very Interesting. I to like Wright a lot. What video I have seen of him has me believing he can be a durable innings eating starter. Let’s see how he progresses.

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      2. Takes real “talent”, or more realistically — a really bad defensive inning that gave a team five outs. Only 2 of his runs were earned.

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        1. I know, I was trying to be funny.

          Still, Wright was the one that let up a double and then a three-run HR after the errors.

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          1. which is why looking at peripherals, and not win/loss record and era, are the best measure. all the relevant stats are covered in the peripherals, including the hits and HR after the errors. This guy is, imho, the must undernoticed prospect in our system.

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            1. I am aware, which is why I did not talk about W/L or ERA, just Ks, BBs, and HRs.

              I’m glad you are positive on Wright too! Someone else on my side…

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  10. Carlos Tocci batting ninth for the GCL Phillies today. Game underway after 12pm start

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    1. GCL 6-9 probably the most exciting in the system.
      6th – Williams Astudillo (1BB and 1K in 27 PAs).
      7th – Dylan Cozens
      8th – Zach Green
      9th – Carlos Tocci

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      1. Cozen gets his first professional HR. Tocci follows it up with a single in his first pro AB.

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      2. Cozens homers in his first AB leading off the 3rd. Tocci singles two ABs later for his first professional hit

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      1. FYI, that HR for Cozens was an opposite field shot vs. the Braves 1st Round pick this year (#21 overall).

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  12. Did I miss something with Rosenburg getting stretched out – realize it was a DH, but is this a plan?

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  13. I noticed Ryan Duke in the AAA boxscore. Not sure if he was called up only for the DH, but the 25th round pick from last year might end up being the first player from the 2011 draft class to make an appearance in Philadelphia.

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    1. He was just up for the doubleheader, and is back in Reading. Still worth keeping an eye on, as he was lights out in A+

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      1. He’s not someone I’ve paid much attention to, but his Clearwater stats were eye-popping. Anybody have a scouting report? What’s he throwing?

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        1. Strictly a two-pitch guy (FB, Slider). Closed games in college. Good control. Unsure of FB velocity, but I would guess he is likely a 91-93 type of guy (i.e., we would have seen more info on him if he was in the mid-90s).

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          1. Your guess is absolutely perfect. I saw the tape of the game yesterday. His FB sits between 91-93, with above average command and average movement. He has what appears to be an above average curveball with above average to plus command of that pitch. On the whole, he is a middle reliever – a 6th or 7th inning guy. He is very advanced and might even be promoted this year because he could be immediately useful. His upside, however, is limited.

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            1. You’re right, it might be a slider. It breaks like a curve, however. It’s a very good pitch because his command with it appears to be impeccable.

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  14. I haven’t paid much attention to Altherr this year but that’s going to change I think. I know he’s kind of repeating Lakewood, but his OPS is the highest of his career so far, he’s at a career high in walks in 136 fewer ABs than he had last year, tied his career high in HRs and should soon best his career high in doubles. A dreadful May is holding his overall numbers back but if he can avoid another awful slump like that he should put up pretty strong numbers this year. Very good to see.

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    1. The very interesting thing about Altherr is that despite being a bit of a beanpole (and very fast) he’s shown considerable power at a pretty young age. That’s a nice package of skills and it’s encouraging to see him demonstrate them, finally, over an extended period.

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    2. I like Altherr a lot too – so much that I compared him to Domonic Brown a few years back. Whoops.

      Anyway, he has been off the hook over his last 8 games – .483/.583/.759 with two of his six HRs on the year. Let’s hope this isn’t a fluke and that this is the real Altherr…

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  17. Geoff Broussard promoted to Lakewood while Hoby Milner returns to Williamsport. I suspect that was always the plan with Milner. Congrats to Geoff

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  18. I don’t know if it will be done this year, but I’d like to see what others’ midseason top 30 prospects list look like. I forced Gabriel Lino into my top 30, based on his position in the Orioles system.
    With last years draft looking good so far, the top picks signed this year, and the underperformance of the preseason top 15, i don’t think there would be a lot of consensus.

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  19. What does Christopher Duffy need to do to get some love on this site ? BA .405 with some pop he must have the highest BA in the system . He was a college all-american who may be putting it all together.

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    1. Duffy was a 26th rounder even after being one of the best hitters in college baseball. I have to believe that his bat doesn’t project at a high level. And he’s already a full time DH, and old for his level. He’s not hitting for an insane amount of power. I just see no buzz there at all.

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  20. dom isnt duffy like 25 years old in lower level of minors>or am i thinking of a different guy?

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    1. Exactly. The guy was up a level earlier this year and couldn’t hit a lick. He’s about 3 years too old for the league, and plays a position where you’d need to be doing what he was doing at 20, maybe 21, to be considered a strong prospect.

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