Box Score Recap 5-26-2012

Box Score Recap

I had nothing on Gillies, but see the comments below for some info from Jay Floyd from phoulballz.com

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46 thoughts on “Box Score Recap 5-26-2012”

  1. From Twitter…

    Jay Floyd ‏@PhoulBallz

    Just heard back from Tyson Gillies, who said he’ll be fine. Sounds like a precautionary removal from the game after collision in field.

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    1. Really nice to see. This kid’s worked so hard to get back it’d be a shame to see a fluke thing like that make him miss valuable time.

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    1. Read this article last night. Some tidbits of interest. Scout interviewed liked May, Pettibone and Hernandez. Seemed to think Hernandez was a 2b everyday prospect which is nice.

      Likes Ruf as a bench player in ML. Luke warm on Gillies in article as a 4th OF. Down on J Rod as a reas a prospect. Puts it in some perspective.

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      1. Everyone’s been down on JRod forever. At this point, I need to see him fail. Sometimes, a pitchability guy like JRod simply has the right combination of skills to get the job done.

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      2. Yeah, apparently J-Rod has mediocre velocity, inconsistent control and pitches up in the zone. Sounds like he couldn’t get me out, and yet he’s having success in AA.

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    2. I saw the article too. I agree on May and Hernandez. I haven’t seen Pettibone pitch, but it’s nice to see that the reviews at AA match those at high A – he also seems to be turning the corner in terms of getting strikeouts – very encouraging. I also agree on Ruf, although I think he did not necessarily limit him to the bench – Ruf is a much better hitter and prospect than both Rizzotti and Overbeck – both of whom are very limited players. Ruf has great contact skills, good strike zone judgment and above average power – he is intriguing. I disagree with him on Gillies. He has days where he does not look that good – and perhaps that he was he saw. But there are days when he flashes some incredible ability in the field, on the bases and at bat. I think his upside is to be something in the nature of a Victorino, Bourne or Johnny Damon (with less power). The kid is still knocking the rust off. He is going to make somebody a really nice outfielder for many years. He reminds me a lot of the kind of guys Tampa Bay always has floating around. Tyson Gillies can play.

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      1. Don’t forget that the book on Victorino was that he couldn’t hit major-league pitching, hence the twice being Rule-V twice. So you just don’t know what a kid can do until given the chance.

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    3. Nice comments for Cesar Hernandez. It’s getting pretty difficult to rank the position prospects, but Hernandez is making a case for top position prospect, with Galvis close to using up his rookie service time.

      1. Valle
      2. Hernandez
      3. Franco
      4. Asche
      5. Gillies

      Not much after that, as far as position players. I’m looking forward to the debuts of Tocci, Quinn, Walding, LGj and Tromp, though.

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      1. 1. Hernandez
        2. Valle
        3. Asche
        4. Greene Jr
        5. H Martinez
        6. Franco
        7. Ruf
        8. J James
        9. Gillies
        10. Quinn

        If we are including Galvis and Briwn, I have Galvis first, and Brown behind Valle but ahead of Asche.

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        1. I think that you have Franco too low. I think perspective is important when evaluating his season so far. Franco is the same age as the HS draftees from 2011 (younger than Walding), but he is holding his own at Lakewood. He has an acceptable K% and BB%. He has a decent ISO, and his BABip is not high.
          No way he is behind Harold Martinez at this point. Perspective. Harold Martinez and Cody Asche were HS draftees in 2008. Franco could repeat Lakewood twice and still be ahead of Martinez.

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          1. I respect that. I tend to value closeness to the big leagues higher than most. I saw Franco and H Martinez twice this year and the ball just jumps off both their bats compared to all the others on that team, except maybe Altherr. I believe Franco has a higher upside than H Mart, but I think H Mart is more likely to make it and will rise faster in the system. I do have Altherr 12, with Castro 11.

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  3. I would think Cody Asche will be promoted to AA by July 1st if he keeps up the top rated performance he so far has done at Clearwater.

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  4. Agreed. Asche should be promoted shortly. Maybe D Brown has found his comfort zone in CF and is hitting again. Colvin has quickly moved into fringe player.

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    1. I have to believe that if brown has the talent to play wide reciever for the U he could thrive in center field.

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  5. Colvin pitching out of the pen last night, BTW. Wonder if that’s a move or if they just needed an inning and it was his day to throw.

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    1. That’s not how teams handle prospects. He’s getting a “change of scenery”. He’s probably at risk of getting Phillipped back to EST.

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  6. I am also very high on c. Hernandez. I have him starting 2b in 2014 with rollins possibly moving to 3b and galvis at ss. I rather see asche at 3b by then but we are committed to rollins. I hope his contract doesnt vest for a 4th year.

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    1. For 2013 can galvis play 3b? Thats assuming utley starts at 2b and rollins refuses to play 3b.

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    2. I think that has the potential to be an extraordinarily weak team offensively. And I say that even though I like all three players.

      If Rollins can no longer be the every day SS, then he is IMO done as an everyday player. Moving him to third makes no sense.

      I’m getting sold on Galvis long term at SS. The problem with Hernandez at 2B, apart fromaybee still being a bit premature, is that Galvis plus Hernandez means two average or below averrage hitters in the middle infield. Of course it is possible to win that way, but for most of the past decade we have gotten much better than averag offensive production from both spots.

      Though obvious also at this point I’m not totally sold on Hernandez. Though he is a real prospect and hopefully will remove my doubts.

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      1. I agree about rollins but the phils gave him the deal…not me…and i cant see them not starting his 11 millions…maybe asche beats hernandez to the majors and provides more power

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        1. That would be a quick ascent for Asche, indeed. Hernandez only has one option left; he’ll be in the majors by April 2014, or he’ll be in another organization.

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          1. I was thinking asche in 2015 but if he gets promoted to reading as some suggest he might….he could spend 2013 split between reading and lv…he was a college player sp why not if he continues to develop

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        1. I agree with Alan, and it depends on what we are getting out of other positions. If we have big bats in LF, at 3B, and 1B, we can afford to not have 2007 Rollins and 2008 Utley up the middle. At this point, I’m not sure Galvis’s numbers in ’13’, ’14, and ’15 will be all that much different than Rollins numbers in ’10, ’11, and ’12.

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  8. I saw where Roy Halladay left the game with a sore shoulder which is probably terrible news. Does Cloyd get the call up over Hyatt?

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    1. They don’t need a starter until a week from Tuesday, so could skip a start for Halladay, or Worley could be back, but most likely will be someone from the minors, probably in this order – Bush, Cloyd, Elarton, Misch, May.

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    2. He probably would… however, as whoever is above me said, they don’t need another starter for a while.

      Personally, I hope he goes on the DL regardless of the severity. He’s too important to not be overly cautious.

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  9. This might get missed considering I’m posting it on Sunday of Memorial Day weekend at 10:15pm (I’m the coolest!) but I thought this was worth noting about Troy Hanzawa:
    According to that article from FanGraphs, line drive rate and strikeout rate stabilize at 150 PAs. He has 150 PAs in Reading and his line drive rate is 22% according to firstinning.com and his strikeout rate is 10.3%. His previous best for LD% was 16% and for K% was 17%. So it is becoming more possible that his performance is real, though reaching 150 PAs is not some sort of tipping point after which a player’s performance is all for real. Players can perform as outliers for a long time. That said, I am: 1) Feeling bad that I dissed his hitting ability at the beginning of the year; 2) Getting a little excited about him, since we know he can field.

    FanGraphs article: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/when-samples-become-reliable/

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    1. Yeah, I’m surprised he’s kept it up for this long but it’s good to see. I wonder if they would consider moving him up in the order. The only thing is, I wouldn’t really want to see him bat over the other prospects on the team and all the filler guys in the lineup are hitting really well.

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  10. Saw Brown had another two hit game today… got his average up to .250. I really hope he can get hot. I think he needs to get that first home run out of the way and he’s going to go on a tear.

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      1. It’s the first time he’s ever played Center Field regularly… he’s going to have rough spots.

        … and once again, errors are a horrible way to judge an outfielder’s fielding ability.

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        1. Actually, they originally tried him in CF back after they drafted him. He didnt fully go to RF until 2009. He has 120 games at the position now.

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  12. If I recall correctly, Gillies has severe hearing impairment. He may have a lot of outfield collisions in his future. Maybe they should trail a red bandanna out of his back pocket to warn corner outfielders.

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    1. That’s why he needs to play center, so he can have priority and call any other fielder off. I hope he gets back in the lineup tonight.

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