I have stopped worrying. He really hasn’t done anything for anyone to have high expectations. He pitched well the 2nd half if his Lakewood season. Other than that, he has been terrible.
Yeah I’m at the worrying point and have been for a few starts. He’s actually been worse this year than last. Only 12 more BBs to go to equal last year’s total.
I wonder if Brown has been sitting with Sandberg. I just have a feeling this time out will be the thing that turns the corner for Brown. He just has to get over the way he has been treated by management. Being fragile is not in his best interest. Anyway I hope he keeps it up.
Yeah, I hate it when teams give a young prospect first crack at a starting role on a playoff team and then demote them when they trade for an AS player at the same position. Yup, its all management’s fault.
I consider both of them to be fairly comparable with the glove…which means I consider a fair shot that Victorino might be decapitated at some point in the season as the result of a defensive mishap.
Look at the way Ortiz lashed out at the Boston press and mangement and he’s a senior citizen. It’s always, what have you done for me lately? For a youngster, he doesn’t have any history to fall back on. Brown just has to forge ahead.
I think that if Brown plays well for a few weeks or month, than he will get the call up. He could provide the spark the big club is missing. They need him to get confidence and put all the pieces back together. I still have hope for Brown
Once Brown comes up there can be no sending him back down (unless injury rehab)and let him play everyday despite any errors he makes in LF. Can he be any worse than Pence or Victorino right now?
So I guess Pence dropping three balls this year and Victorino turning singles into triples is alright with you? If we are out of the race and start trading key players then what harm can come to letting him play?
He can be a lot worse. But I agree that another 3 months of consistent ABs in Triple-A is a good thing and maybe he’s ready for a September 1st call up.
Barring an implosion on the major league level that leads them to trade away Victorino and/or Pence, making it possible to give Brown a chance at a low-stakes audition in left, I think he will play this entire season at LHV. A lot could change, sure, but injuries + fielding concerns + not a great start batting makes patience a necessity.
Would I be unreasonably picayune if I ask about Hernandez’s 7 errors already? Seems like a lot for a second baseman at this stage of the season. Granted I don’t know how many chances he’s had. Love the stick so far though.
It appears that the Castro roller coaster is back up again.
My impression is that the scouts say he is a good fielder. Could just be one of those cases where he’s getting to balls that others don’t because of his range/speed. Galvis had a lot of errors every year in the minors as well for the same reason.
The Brown, Mitchell, Susdorf outfield is a study in contrasts – older org guy who can really hit, former top prospect trying to figure it out, year-by-year toolsy guy trying to make the leap. A top fielder, a slow but steady fielder and an inconsistent (at best) fielder.
Well, he did OPS just over .900 last year. He’s shy of that so far this year but we’ll see. But it’s not just about him being an eventual ML starter, that’s probably a stretch. He just deserves a chance to play everyday in AAA and looks like a potential MLB extra man.
I’m cannot make the argument that Susdorf is any worse defensively, because their is no data to support either side. What I do know is that a .776 OPS (in a hitters environment, from a 26 year old, Double A, LF) is not worthy of attention.
That may have been James’ trick that I did not inherit. All I would say is you can increase your browser zoom, but it does get blurry. I’m not a graphics guys, so anyone with advice feel free to find me on twitter and connect that way. @bxe1234
I think it is way too early to give up on Brown. The tools are there, and I think if he puts together a good month, you promote him and maybe let him learn form Juan Pierre. His arm is a major plus compared to what is in left field at the big level right now. It is all about Brown’s mental approach.
Still think Brown’s defense is being overblown. He may not catch everything hit his way but his arm alone would save a ton of runs that Juan Pierre’s has cost us.
Assuming Mrs Rollins and Baby Rollins are fully healthy, does anyone else find it a bit ridiculous that Rollins needs two days off when we are playing in division games at a time when Utley and Howard are already out of the lineup? Ignore the argument that Fontenot is probably as capable with the bat right now as Jimmy is, but this kind of ticks me off that he can’t spend 5 hours out of his day to play a game while the wife and kid are at home? Again, I’m assuming they are healthy and if there is even the slightest bit of concern about anything, that changes everything, but otherwise, it seems kind of weird. Like where is the sense of urgency?
You know, you’re right, this is typical of the pampered behavior of infants, selfishly demanding the attention of our starting shortstop. Little Rollins has had his every need taken care of for nine months inside his mother’s womb, comes out to discover that not only does he live in a mansion, his father is SUPERSTAR BASEBALL PLAYER, and yet all he has to say is WAAAAAAAAAAA! I really worry about these babies of today.
No, we feel like prospect pages belong to prospect discussion. That is how it was from the beginning, and hopefully shall stay. Try just a little respect for this site and what it supposed to be “anonymous”
Trevor is following the path that I expected. I thought he’d dominate early in AA and then hitters would adjust. I expect May will take some time to figure out his own adjustment. August will be key for him. The only surprise is, I thought hitters would adjust quicker and early-May would start the problems for him.
Buchanon has been bombed from the start and I’m hoping he’ll make his adjustments soon.
It was bad but I would rather see a guy just give up the parade of hits without walking people. It means something was dramatically off, whether he was just throwing stuff down the middle or whatever, the end result is that they must have been making strong contact and they strung them together. It happens.
Actually, it’s a pretty well established practice on this site to discuss recently promoted and first year players provided that they came up throught the Phillies’ system. Diekman fits well within those parameters as do Savery and the wonderfully surprising Freddy Galvis.
I think he’s a great pitcher with great stuff and has done nothing but dominate since the Phillies acquired him in the Rule 5 draft. And even better, a quality human being. Excerpt frpm a philly.com interview from last year “Giving back: Inspired by the relationship he had with his uncle, Friend works as an aid in the offseason at special education/special needs facilities in the San Joaquin County. “Some of these kids have such a struggle getting out of bed or ever leaving their homes,” Friend said. “It absolutely puts everything into perspective about how lucky [we] are to go out and play a game every day.”
It’s time to start thinking about demotions from Lakewood to Williamsport. When the short-season opens, who do you expect to be sent down? Eldemire is hitting .220 but has a .359 OBP. I think he stays. Franco is hitting .234 and is young but he has 20 RBIs and has already proven himself at Wmsprt so i think he stays. Logan Moore is one that I think can be moved down. He’s hitting .193 but he also has a .343 OBP. He has 9 PBs and a 17% CS%. Gustavo Gonzalez definitely could be moved down. He’s hitting .183/.241/.183.
Eldemire is too old to go down, he’s either going to improve at Lakewood or go someplace else. That said, I think they will give him multiple second chances. He’s a really good athlete and, unlike a lot of our other tool shed players, he actually has some pedigree in college ball.
Good to see Brown get a few hits.
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good to see him playing again!!
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Brown… he’s ALIIIIIIIIVE
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at what point do we worry about colvin? Can’t find anything in the stats to be happy about.
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Yeah I’d say it’s safe to start worrying. If he fails again in A+ we may be looking at a converted reliever as his best chance to make the majors.
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bullpen starting to seem inevitable
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I disagree, you don’t resolve control issues and delivery consistency in the bullpen. He’s still young, let him figure out his delivery.
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It’s getting late early for him, as they say.
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I have stopped worrying. He really hasn’t done anything for anyone to have high expectations. He pitched well the 2nd half if his Lakewood season. Other than that, he has been terrible.
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Yeah I’m at the worrying point and have been for a few starts. He’s actually been worse this year than last. Only 12 more BBs to go to equal last year’s total.
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unrelated, but every time I think of colvin I think of Cosart. Always paired them together.
………I miss Cosart
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Cosart will end up in the bullpen as well. We’re lucky we kept May.
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I wonder if Brown has been sitting with Sandberg. I just have a feeling this time out will be the thing that turns the corner for Brown. He just has to get over the way he has been treated by management. Being fragile is not in his best interest. Anyway I hope he keeps it up.
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Yeah, I hate it when teams give a young prospect first crack at a starting role on a playoff team and then demote them when they trade for an AS player at the same position. Yup, its all management’s fault.
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That is true only if you STILL regard Pence as a right fielder.
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I consider both of them to be fairly comparable with the glove…which means I consider a fair shot that Victorino might be decapitated at some point in the season as the result of a defensive mishap.
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Look at the way Ortiz lashed out at the Boston press and mangement and he’s a senior citizen. It’s always, what have you done for me lately? For a youngster, he doesn’t have any history to fall back on. Brown just has to forge ahead.
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I think that if Brown plays well for a few weeks or month, than he will get the call up. He could provide the spark the big club is missing. They need him to get confidence and put all the pieces back together. I still have hope for Brown
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Once Brown comes up there can be no sending him back down (unless injury rehab)and let him play everyday despite any errors he makes in LF. Can he be any worse than Pence or Victorino right now?
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Ah, yes, he can be..
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+1
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So I guess Pence dropping three balls this year and Victorino turning singles into triples is alright with you? If we are out of the race and start trading key players then what harm can come to letting him play?
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He can be a lot worse. But I agree that another 3 months of consistent ABs in Triple-A is a good thing and maybe he’s ready for a September 1st call up.
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Barring an implosion on the major league level that leads them to trade away Victorino and/or Pence, making it possible to give Brown a chance at a low-stakes audition in left, I think he will play this entire season at LHV. A lot could change, sure, but injuries + fielding concerns + not a great start batting makes patience a necessity.
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Would I be unreasonably picayune if I ask about Hernandez’s 7 errors already? Seems like a lot for a second baseman at this stage of the season. Granted I don’t know how many chances he’s had. Love the stick so far though.
It appears that the Castro roller coaster is back up again.
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My impression is that the scouts say he is a good fielder. Could just be one of those cases where he’s getting to balls that others don’t because of his range/speed. Galvis had a lot of errors every year in the minors as well for the same reason.
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He booted two grounders right at him on Sunday.
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It happens, even to the best of them. Hernandez is a hell of a fielder and makes nice contact. Just not sure he will ever develop any power.
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And Gillies, similar to Brown, sits out and comes back with back to back 2 hit games. I would love to see consistency from these 2.
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I bet Susdorf turns out to be the best hitter (player?) on the Lehigh team. Will that make people take him seriously ?
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The Brown, Mitchell, Susdorf outfield is a study in contrasts – older org guy who can really hit, former top prospect trying to figure it out, year-by-year toolsy guy trying to make the leap. A top fielder, a slow but steady fielder and an inconsistent (at best) fielder.
I love the minor leagues.
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Susdorf has hit at every level and still yet to be taken seriously.
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In order to taken seriously, you have to be able to play a position… and if your position is 1B, you better be hitting more than Susdorf.
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What if your position is LF? Pretty sure that’s where he’s getting his reps.
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He’s not a very good outfielder though. I haven’t seen much of him but when I did, his range was poor and he looked awkward.
The big problem for a guy like Susdorf is realistically, older players need to OPS somewhere between .900 and 1.000 just to catch attention.
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Well, he did OPS just over .900 last year. He’s shy of that so far this year but we’ll see. But it’s not just about him being an eventual ML starter, that’s probably a stretch. He just deserves a chance to play everyday in AAA and looks like a potential MLB extra man.
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I’m not sure you can make an argument that he doesn’t play LF better than Raul and every bit as well as Pierre. Cheaper than both to boot.
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I’m cannot make the argument that Susdorf is any worse defensively, because their is no data to support either side. What I do know is that a .776 OPS (in a hitters environment, from a 26 year old, Double A, LF) is not worthy of attention.
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The problem is that Susdorf doesn’t have the power that Ibanez has or the speed that Pierre has.
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Pierre had*
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what is the trick again in ‘blowing up’ the boxscores for better reading?
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That may have been James’ trick that I did not inherit. All I would say is you can increase your browser zoom, but it does get blurry. I’m not a graphics guys, so anyone with advice feel free to find me on twitter and connect that way. @bxe1234
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Oh, forget it. I think I can make it work like it used to. Check in tomorrow and tell me if you think it’s better.
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James and Castro are both hitting better lately. James still won’t take a walk though. Neither will Castro but he’s only got 2 Ks in his last 37 ABs.
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I think it is way too early to give up on Brown. The tools are there, and I think if he puts together a good month, you promote him and maybe let him learn form Juan Pierre. His arm is a major plus compared to what is in left field at the big level right now. It is all about Brown’s mental approach.
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Still think Brown’s defense is being overblown. He may not catch everything hit his way but his arm alone would save a ton of runs that Juan Pierre’s has cost us.
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Assuming Mrs Rollins and Baby Rollins are fully healthy, does anyone else find it a bit ridiculous that Rollins needs two days off when we are playing in division games at a time when Utley and Howard are already out of the lineup? Ignore the argument that Fontenot is probably as capable with the bat right now as Jimmy is, but this kind of ticks me off that he can’t spend 5 hours out of his day to play a game while the wife and kid are at home? Again, I’m assuming they are healthy and if there is even the slightest bit of concern about anything, that changes everything, but otherwise, it seems kind of weird. Like where is the sense of urgency?
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Pretty sure you’re the only one. At least, I pray to god you are.
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Major companies offer a one or two week paternity leave these days. He gets two days. I do not begrudge him that at all. Big picture.
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The way Jimmy has been hitting, a couple of days off to recharge his batteries couldn’t hurt.
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You know, you’re right, this is typical of the pampered behavior of infants, selfishly demanding the attention of our starting shortstop. Little Rollins has had his every need taken care of for nine months inside his mother’s womb, comes out to discover that not only does he live in a mansion, his father is SUPERSTAR BASEBALL PLAYER, and yet all he has to say is WAAAAAAAAAAA! I really worry about these babies of today.
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Does anyone else find it ridiculous that people just can’t seem to keep their daily complaints about the big club out of the daily boxscore section.
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Does anyone else find it ridiculous that there isn’t a general discussion posting so people like you can stop complaining?
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No, we feel like prospect pages belong to prospect discussion. That is how it was from the beginning, and hopefully shall stay. Try just a little respect for this site and what it supposed to be “anonymous”
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No. Not at all… not like he’s hitting anyway.
Also, gave Kratz a nice chance to showcase his power. Straightaway Center Field power is nice to see from your third catcher.
Also… P.s.
Our old friend Quintin Berry is being called up to the Tigers… something to watch.
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whats wrong with the whole a ball crew why aren’t they hitting any more like in the beginning of the year and is valle ok or is he just in a slump
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Rough and quick nite for Trevor May, lasted two innings.
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He has regressed significantly in May, ironically
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Trevor is following the path that I expected. I thought he’d dominate early in AA and then hitters would adjust. I expect May will take some time to figure out his own adjustment. August will be key for him. The only surprise is, I thought hitters would adjust quicker and early-May would start the problems for him.
Buchanon has been bombed from the start and I’m hoping he’ll make his adjustments soon.
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It was bad but I would rather see a guy just give up the parade of hits without walking people. It means something was dramatically off, whether he was just throwing stuff down the middle or whatever, the end result is that they must have been making strong contact and they strung them together. It happens.
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Jake Diekman tonight:1.2 IP 1H 4K 20 pitches thrown, 17 strikes….filthy
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This comment doesn’t belong here, this is for discussions on minor league boxscores.
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Actually, it’s a pretty well established practice on this site to discuss recently promoted and first year players provided that they came up throught the Phillies’ system. Diekman fits well within those parameters as do Savery and the wonderfully surprising Freddy Galvis.
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Hey whats everyone think of justin friend? 0.60 era a closer not bad
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org guy, non prospect
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I think he’s a great pitcher with great stuff and has done nothing but dominate since the Phillies acquired him in the Rule 5 draft. And even better, a quality human being. Excerpt frpm a philly.com interview from last year “Giving back: Inspired by the relationship he had with his uncle, Friend works as an aid in the offseason at special education/special needs facilities in the San Joaquin County. “Some of these kids have such a struggle getting out of bed or ever leaving their homes,” Friend said. “It absolutely puts everything into perspective about how lucky [we] are to go out and play a game every day.”
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It’s time to start thinking about demotions from Lakewood to Williamsport. When the short-season opens, who do you expect to be sent down? Eldemire is hitting .220 but has a .359 OBP. I think he stays. Franco is hitting .234 and is young but he has 20 RBIs and has already proven himself at Wmsprt so i think he stays. Logan Moore is one that I think can be moved down. He’s hitting .193 but he also has a .343 OBP. He has 9 PBs and a 17% CS%. Gustavo Gonzalez definitely could be moved down. He’s hitting .183/.241/.183.
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Eldemire is too old to go down, he’s either going to improve at Lakewood or go someplace else. That said, I think they will give him multiple second chances. He’s a really good athlete and, unlike a lot of our other tool shed players, he actually has some pedigree in college ball.
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