Voting for #26 was tightly grouped, but Mike Cisco finally broke through, capturing 51 of the 160 votes cast. Colby Shreve, Quintin Berry, Jared Cosart and Justin De Fratus all collected between 17 and 36 votes. With only four spots left, will those 4 be the last to make the top 30 or will someone else surge ahead? We also had a few write-in votes; Brummett (3), Pettibone (3), Castro, Slate and Schwimer. Since Naughton has been on the list a number of times and failed to gain any traction, I’m going to remove him and add Brummett and Pettibone to the voting for 27. If the Naughton crew wants him on, they can write him in again. Upward and onward…
01. Carlos Carrasco, RHP
02. Lou Marson, C
03. Jason Donald, SS
04. Kyle Drabek, RHP
05. Michael Taylor, OF
06. Dominic Brown, OF
07. JA Happ, LHP
08. Travis D’Arnaud, C
09. Joe Savery, LHP
10. Zach Collier, OF
11. Jason Knapp, RHP
12. John Mayberry Jr, OF
13. Edgar Garcia, RHP
14. Antonio Bastardo, LHP
15. Julian Sampson, RHP
16. Drew Naylor, RHP
17. Mike Stutes, RHP
18. Anthony Hewitt, 3B
19. Sebastian Valle, C
20. Vance Worley, RHP
21. Freddy Galvis, SS
22. Travis Mattair, 3B
23. Damarii Saunderson, OF
24. Anthony Gose, OF
25. Andrew Carpenter, RHP
26. Mike Cisco, RHP
27.
ahh, Cisco finally won. Now I can finally start voting for Mike Cervanek. Nah, DeFratrus is my guy today.
– Jeff
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argh, spelling fail – De Fratus
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Berries remind me of spring so there you go. Seriously
I am predicting,hoping, devining a great year under the influence of little Davey Lopes.
We need speed all we can get
Let run Baker and McCann back to the bench
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Write in for Castro
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Upon reflection the switch is made to Justin DeFratus this round.
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overbeck
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Back to the high ceiling kids. In a contest between Shreve and Cosart, I chose Cosart. Shreve if healthy has the higher ceiling, but Mathieson teaches me that post-surgery health cannot be assumed as a given and Shreve unlikely to be at anything approaching full ability in 2009. So — Cosart.
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I’m going Cosart here on pure potential.
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I wrote in Slate. Big projectable body, a true out pitch that he hasn’t been allowed to throw in professional ball from all reports, and just a friggin ridiculous K:BB rate last year.
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Slate is another guy like Cosart. A projectable HS Kid who we signed in the late rounds (2007 draft). I voted for Cosart based on the really big upside, but there could be a plausible arguement made for Slate fitting into these late rounds as he did have pretty good numbers this year in the GCL. Wonder why he only pitched 27 innings?
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Euphoric I dont have to vote for Cisco anymore, it’s JDF time.
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Chapman.
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Was it Slate or DeFratus that missed the start of the season due to a bout with mono?
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one for pettibone… he and cosart are the two projectables i have my eye on.
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Voting for Cosart again. The reports of him touching 96 in the Fall make me think he is only a small notch below Knapp as a prospect. Shreve is more of an unknown for me because of the surgery. I don’t have a huge problem with Cisco in the latest spot also, though I do worry that he is one of those pitchers with extreme control but pedestrian stuff. Those types of pitchers usually have some trouble moving up the ladder.
Of those left I probably rank them Cosart, Berry, Shreve and then I need to decide between Pettibone, Castro, May, Slate, and De Fratus.
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I’ve got de Fratus at 22 on my tentative Top 30, and I’m glad Cisco made it so I can finally throw my support to Justin.
Age 19, GCL: 46.0 IP — 6.65 K/9 — 0.59 BB/9 — 54.5% GB — 2.33 FIP
Age 20, NYPL: 83.1 IP — 7.99 K/9 — 2.70 BB/9 — 46.4% GB — 2.55 FIP
Those are some pretty impressive numbers. As James always says, it’s important to look at FIP or DICE in addition to ERA. His ERA was 4.30 and 3.67, respectively, for those years, but his superior FIP showed that he was just getting a bit unlucky.
The Phils have moved him slowly thus far, but de Fratus still looks like he can stick as a starter — and a #4 who can throw strikes and get ground balls is a valuable commodity.
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It was Slate who had mono. My vote is for the big “D-Train” (De Fratus) w/ Slate right behind him. Very pleased w/ the pitching down in the minors & I check daily to see which one(s) gets dealt first.
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I’m sure i’ll be voting for him in each of the last four polls, but I went with Escalona. He’s had success at a high level in the minors, which is more than anyone can say for the Cosarts and Shreves of the world. I don’t care if relief pitchers aren’t the most exciting thing in the baseball world, they’re important if a team wants to win. So Escalona it is, although De Fratus and Slate are both guys I like.
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Cosart here.
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I voted for Brummett again but I can understand votes for a few other of the young pitchers. If these young pitchers fill out the top 30, how many of our top 30 will have come from last year’s draft? 11? And that doesn’t even include a couple of position players that some of you have been building up.
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Slayden again—hopefully the vote records this time 🙂
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A must read from BP.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8470
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I’m skeptical of the 96 mph reports, a lot of that turns out to be inaccurate.
I’m voting Quintin Berry here. Trusting a high school arm who hasn’t played pro ball is one thing. Adding Tommy John surgery really makes me iffy, no matter what the pre-draft reports were.
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Its kinda like when people say Carrasco throws 96. He actually throws 92/93 and once in a blue moon might hit 96 up and out of the zone. So they say “he throws 92-96”.
Of course, you’ll have days where he’s sitting at 89/90 for whatever reason too as pitchers aren’t machines.
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For this round, I considered the player’s floor. Cosart and Shreve and Defraus all have high ceilings, but their floors are pitchers that never succeed in AA. I voted for Quintin Berry, the fastest player in the pharm system. His floor is Chirs Roberson. His Ceiling is a lot higher.
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Noworyta is high on Berry. I guess he should get some consideration for a late top 30 rank. He says Slayden has too many “peaks and valleys”. He also says that they will give Worley and Stutes the “opportunity” to “double jump” from Lakewood to Reading . Though gotta wait for warmer weather to see Drabek in Reading.
http://www.readingphillies.com/index.shtml
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Hey! What about me?
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Maybe if you had more than one tool, Mike. Then you would crack the top 30
(I doubt that was really Michael Durant, but if it was, welcome to the site)
Actually, Durant might fall into the category of a “forgotten prospect.” He wasn’t horrible last year, it’s just that he strikes me as a poor man’s Ryan Howard – slow runner, poor fielder, not a good contact hitter, but he does have some power. He needs to have a heckuva year at Clearwater though to get back on our radars. Give us an ops of at least .850 with at least 50 extra base hits, a decent amount of walks, and maybe a promotion to Reading towards the end of the year, then we’ll start buzzing about whether or not he’s the potential replacement for Ryan Howard in a few years
Personally, I think that Overbeck gets moved to 1B at Clearwater (Durant will get a bulk of his ABs at DH), Hamilton rakes the heck out of the ball at Lakewood, and those two guys become out primary prospects at first.
– Jeff
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Hahaha you never know.
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ahh, the irony. Could it really be Pat who posts here all the time? We may never know.
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I went with Shreve…FWIW. His potential is enough for me at #27.
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Berry with the highest floor…at this level, it’s sort of a personal preference.
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Cosart on potential.
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