Short on time today, but I wanted to get this one up. We’re on the verge of completing the first 20 on the list, and the list looks very strong right now. Toolshed Anthony Hewitt takes #18 over Sebastian Valle, who’s support has picked up over the last few votes. Check for more below the fold…
Mike Cisco got 5 write-in votes, so he enters the poll. Saunderson, Mathieson, Naughton and Roth also got write-in votes. The list to date
01. Carlos Carrasco, RHP
02. Lou Marson, C
03. Jason Donald, SS
04. Kyle Drabek, RHP
05. Michael Taylor, OF
06. Dominic Brown, OF
07. JA Happ, LHP
08. Travis D’Arnaud, C
09. Joe Savery, LHP
10. Zach Collier, OF
11. Jason Knapp, RHP
12. John Mayberry Jr, OF
13. Edgar Garcia, RHP
14. Antonio Bastardo, LHP
15. Julian Sampson, RHP
16. Drew Naylor, RHP
17. Mike Stutes, RHP
18. Anthony Hewitt, 3B
19.
I voted for Galvis. Dude’s got sick tools, and he’s still young. Except, he’s blocked at short for awhile
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Voted for Hewitt cause of his Toolshed on the last one, but was torn between him and Valle, so this one goes to Sea-Bass
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Valle, but I think Galvis is close behind.
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Valle. Agree that Galvis is next.
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It’s funny when looking back on my…and others opinions and seeming them change over the course of this exercise.
I will go with the arm in Worley over a ss with no bat and a young catcher who if he has to move will lose value due to position shift.
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Galvis…for the 5th time in a row. 🙂
If he is even a mediocre hitter, he’ll be able to start at the MLB level with that glove.
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I’m voting for Valle again. I’m glad Naughton was mentioned. He’s on the 40 man roster so the Phils thought enough of him to protect him from the minor league draft. He’s 21 and has a laser beam of an arm. He bats left and he hit .275 in Lakewood. I’m not saying he’s in the top 20 but just wondering where to put him. If Jaramillo was still around, would he be in the top 20 or was he past the prospect label.
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I went with Valle here, I was impressed by his performance at such a young age. He’s got good tools, but I do agree that right behind him is Galvis.
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Galvis again—–he will be showing up soon as a winner:)
Unfortunately he will be in Clearwater this season so I won’t get to see him in person.
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He’s got no shot, but I’m sticking with Cisco again.
Geez, imagine where he would’ve ranked if he actually made contact occasionally (probably right around Collier)
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ummm, he = Hewitt. I forgot the sentence that would’ve read “I’m surprised that Hewitt ranked #18.” d’oh
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I voted for Mattair, second straight time. Call it a hunch. (As if at this point it could be anything but…)
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Valle yet again.
My next pick is Vance Worley, and then I’ve got Freddy Galvis behind them.
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Mattair joins Harman, Correa and Carpenter on my list of most disappointing players from 2008 minor leagues. I haven’t totally given up on him, but have demoted him to the fringe prospect category.
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I went with Valle… his numbers were impressive albeit at a low level.
My next vote goes to Colby Shreve. After he comes back from TJ it will be like getting and extra 1st rounder a year late. This next bunch of prospects is basically entirely speculation, so if we’re going to play a guessing game we might as well pick the guys with the best ceilings.
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It’s gotta be Worley, right? Stutes’ stuff is a touch better, but he’s a year older, has poorer command, and didn’t put up quite the same numbers as Worley. And that’s no knock on Stutes — just making the point that if we’ve installed Stutes at #19, it’d be a shame for Worley to drop out of the Top 20.
As for Valle… he’s an exciting talent, to be sure, but I have a couple concerns that drop him a bit lower down my list. First, John Manuel noted that he’s an offensive catcher, so his D is going to need some work. Second, I think his good numbers from this year may have been a bit inflated by a .336 BABIP (from only a 13.4% LD rate), and I’m concerned about the 6.7% BB rate as compared to the 18.6% K rate. It’ll take more than 167 ABs before I’m ready to move him above a couple of the remaining names, including Worley and Galvis.
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Vance Worley. Valle is great but his tiny stat basket was collected in the lowest of the Minor Leagues.
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I vote Worley here. High draft pick with control.
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Can you really place Shreve anywhere as we have no idea how he’s gonna look or play after TJ surgery. If it all goes well, he could be the steal of the draft…or the next Mathieson (from an injury POV, not talent)
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This organization has won four league post season championships over the last three seasons. I like to look and see who the catchers were because their leadership and clutch performances are integral to success in any post season tournament. They were Ruiz MLB, Marson SAL, FSL and Valle GCL. Granted it was only a four game post season but Valle came up big leading all in rbi’s and catching both ends of the double header sweep to clinch the GCL flag.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080831&content_id=452829&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
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Valle, then Galvis, then Mattair. Still some talent at 20.
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Worley comes from a first class college program, had success at several levels. Could be posed for a break out season.
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Galvis
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Like skunky says it’s based on tools from now on so I have to go with Cosart. I coached against him in highschool before moving in to the college and no one can match those tools. The young man can easily hold an extra 30 pounds and already hits 96 off the mound and over 100 from the outfield while he ran a sub 6.6 at a open workout I helped run. Not only that he hit over .500 in one of the toughest districts in the state of Texas. Phillies fans should be extremely excited for his first season to begin. What more can u ask for as of tools?
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Galvis again…or Freddy the Glove…
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I’m in the Cisco contigent- Who’s Roth?
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Valle.
Probably going to go Worley–Mattair–then Galvis. Not exactly sure yet on the order of the last two.
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To those who voted for Hewitt,probably a good idea to include a talented player like him at this point. I’m going to keep on voting Valle.
Some orginizational news shall be put on message board.
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Galvis again. This could be his breakout year.
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I’m hoping Galvis comes into camp and has had a growth spurt in which he put on 15 lbs of muscle…and starts killing the ball.
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Surely Worley, unless you’re judging poorly.
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NEPP: “I’m hoping Galvis comes into camp and has had a growth spurt in which he put on 15 lbs of muscle…and starts killing the ball.”
If that happens, we have a potential top 100 in a year or two.
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Given Galvis’ defensive ability, I’d be worried that putting on too much weight might slow him down in the field. Still, I’ve read that he could play on a MLB team now based solely on his glove. With that in mind, for him to be able to bring any offense to the table would be a plus. Given that he doesn’t strike out a lot, and has decent speed, he is definitely worth watching. Looking at his ridiculously low slugging % (.288), I’m thinking that he at least needs to work on making solid contact.
And Erich – Roth is Rob Roth. I believe missed all of 2007 with an injury, and then won a lot of games last year for WPT. (Hold on a second while I check his stats) He doesn’t strike too many guys out, doesn’t seem to be a ground ball pitcher, and probably walks more guys than he should. (Checking his stats a bit more thoroughly here) He had a couple of rough starts at the end of the year, otherwise his ERA would’ve been sub-3.
I’m not sure he’s top 30 material, which is more a comment on the Phils system being a bit stronger than it has in recent years.
– Jeff
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Worley again.
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Galvis could become Omar Vizquel (not a HOF guy so I think I’m allowed to say that). If he keeps the K’s down and is able to do smart things with his outs (move guys over, keep the ball in play) he is an ML quality player. I looked at his stats yesterday and if I do recall although his BA and OPS is low his two seasons to date showed an improvment over time. I’m not saying he’s going to turn into a slugger, but he shows signs that he could continue to improve.
It comes back to our argument of is batting eyes something that can be taught or is it inherent? He at least showen has the ability to recognize based on his K and BB rates, which is very important.
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Slightly off topic but I think Vizquel will eventually make the Hall. His 11 GG and longevity make a compelling HOF case.
I’m very hopeful on Galvis developing as a hitter.
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Valle with Cosart right behind – very impressed by the write-up submitted. 96 MPH is nothing to sneeze at.
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I like Galvis too, but, surprisingly, there is still a lot of talent around at 20.
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Since I voted for Hewitt “the Toolshed” last round, I voted for Travis Mattair, the next best toolshed now. He’ll either move up this list or off this list over the course of the next season. He has the potential to be very good but as Pete Rose said, “someone having potential just means they’re supposed to do something but haven’t done it yet”.
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Andrew Carpenter may belong in the top ten. A former 2nd round draft choice, still just 23 this spring training, top winner in the organization in 2007, pitched at 4 levels and was inconsistent for most of 2008 but did make it to the majors.
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Murray –
I actually have Mattair around 18 on my list, but I still have a few guys that I ranked higher who haven’t made it yet, so I’m not sure where Travis will come in for me. Regardless, I’m with you – this year will be the year where we will find out if he is going to be a Player or not. Just a hunch (from looking at box scores and actually attending a game that he went 3-4), but I think he’s going to be a good ballplayer.
– Jeff
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I agree somewhat about Carpenter. It’s hard to believe he’s fallen so far in everyone’s eyes. I know he has issues with his weight and conditioning but he does have a very good arm. I think he finally gets the message and puts in the work necessary to have success.
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OH Panco Oh Cisco
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Gose should be an option. He’s better than half the guys on that list
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I mean the choices, not the actual list.
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does anyone know who saunderson is from the top of this page? never heard of him and i follow pretty closely.
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Damarii M Saunderson OF L / L 6’03” 185 1989-11-27 15 466 06/12/2008
about an 18 rounder played at 18 last year GCL
who knows yet 28 abs
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thanks nowheels! some how missed this one
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no problem good luck to the young man
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