Over the next few days Kevin Goldstein is going to do brief blurbs on his Top 100 guys. Here are the udpates on Carrasco and Savery
68. Carlos Carrasco, RHP, Phillies
Eligible Next Year? Yes
Production: 3.78 ERA at Double-A (88-85-32-85)
Stock Report: He’s missed more bats at Double-A this time around, but remains a bit more hittable than one would like. Still, it’s a slight step forward.
96. Joe Savery, LHP, Phillies
Eligible Next Year? Yes
Production: 4.69 ERA at High-A (78.2-99-33-64)
Stock Report: Down. After a good start to the season, Savery has been getting hammered of late, giving up 57 hits in his last 35 2/3 innings. Some scouts are worried that something else is wrong, as his stuff has been way off as well.
An injury might explain Savery’s very mixed results. Hmm.
EDIT –> This is an update of his 2008 preseason Top 100, not a current Top 100 or a projected Top 100 next year. “Eligible Next Year” has to do with projected prospect eligibility for next season.
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What is ‘eligible next year’? Wasn’t Cardenas a ‘just miss’ before? I guess he didn’t move up.
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is he just updating the old players on the list or creating a new list? i.e. does any new phillies have a shot to be on the list or do we have to wait for the end of the season?
i don’t know what to hope for with savery. that he is injured (again) or that he is healthy and just getting hammered. neither is really appealing. he did not have a good game last night. i wonder if they should move him down a level. at some point, his confidence has to take a hit. his numbers suggest he is lost at this level.
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He’s updating his pre-season Top 100.
Eligible next year means will the player lose his prospect eligibilty.
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Fairly confident the Phils will have more representation on next year’s list: Marson, Carrasco as a repeater, probably Cardenas, possibly “Toolshed” Golson, perhaps Naylor and/or Taylor.
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dajafi – that’s an intersting discussion…where does marson rank on next year’s list assuming current production.
i say in the top 30. and top 20 if he maintains this insane BA and OB% all year.
no way we have 5 of the top 100..or is there?
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Heres my guess at this moment
Marson: 50’s
Carrasco: 50’s/Low 60’s
Cardenas: 70’s
Naylor: 90’s
Taylor and Golson: Honorable mention
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Top 50 probably…30 is pretty high. His lack of power may hurt him there.
~slaps self~
Sorry I was being a negative Phillies fan…top 30 is possible if he maintains his numbers.
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If Taylor plays the second half at Clearwater the way he played the first half at Lakewood, I think he will deserve to be on the list, but god know whether he will or not.
Will Drew Carpenter be on the list, or will they just send a cheeseburger in his place? (insert laughs here).
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If you get sick from Marmania/Lounacy, is it like the feeling I get every time Ruiz kills a rally by rolling over an offspeed pitch to the left side of the infield for a DP?
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No…that’s more of a kick to the gut or kidneys feeling.
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Dajafi, somehow I don’t see the Toolshed making the Top 100 next year, since Goldstein didn’t have him in the top 11 *Phillies* prospects this year (neither, for that matter, did phuturephillies!).
Its amazing what tools (justifiably, I think) can add to a statistical profile. One 800 OPS season, and Golson will be on everyone’s radar.
*Note: First post here. Came over to check it out on draft day, and have been checking in every day or so since. Fantastic work both by phuturephillies and the contributors.
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Colin, Lounacy is a feeling of euphoria, but not many can handle the extreme high.
Ruizism is a terrible feeling of disappointment – I really thought he’d ‘break out’ this year.
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I wanted to second what padraic said. I also swung by to check out the stuff on the draft and have been checking back in every day since. Great work!
I feel really out of touch with the Phils, and especially the farm system, since I moved out of the area. I used to make it to Reading all of the time. I will have a chance to check out Williamsport next month when they come and visit the Tri-City Valley Cats (Astros). I will be sure to post any impressions I have on the players.
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call me a homer, but a 22 year old catcher hitting .350 with a near .500 ob% who plays great defense with a high throw out runners % in double A is an extremely rare prospect. much more valuable with an outfielder or 3b who has more power with the same stats. there is no way there are 50 prospects that have more value than those numbers coming from the catcher position.
to put it in perspective. the braves got mark texiera (an all star) for a very similar prospect to marson – a young catcher with high %s and limited power named Saltalamacchia.
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Saltalamacchia played a few games in the majors and did pretty well if I remember. This is the first year for Marson above single A so he’s still relatively unproven.
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I wouldn’t overdo the Marson/Salty comparison.
At A+ level:
Salty (20): 459 ABs, .314/.394/.519
Marson (21): 393 ABs, .288/.373/.407
A recent article in the Cleveland papers puts the Phils as one of the possible contenders for Sabathia, and I wouldn’t hesitate in trading Marson right now.
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PJ (Philly): If Marson is for real, where does he rank among Philly’s top prospects?
SportsNation Keith Law: (3:18 PM ET ) Who’d be ahead of him? Catchers who hit like that are pretty special.
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Padraic — You’re comparing Salty’s breakout year to the year before Marson’s breakout. Marson’s bat is much better this season than it was last.
I would not trade Marson for Sabathia. Marson will be an above average majorleague starting catcher for a decade.
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allentown,
Yes, but Salty’s breakout year was an actual “year,” not two months.
Marson is currently sporting a .440 BABIP, so I think it’s unlikely that he will finish anywhere near Salty’s 1004 OPS from 2005.
I think it is premature to compare the two.
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They are two different types of prospects. Salty was a big power prospect after his breakout, while some questioned his defensive ability and whether he’d stick behind the plate. Marson was lauded for his defense and athleticism first and his plate discipline, the power didn’t develop yet. Salty had a good year in Rome, a great year in Myrtle Beach, and then kind of slowed down a bit. Marson has been making the slow and steady climb, showing improvement at every level, and his defense has never been questioned, at least that I’ve seen. I don’t look at error totals much in the minors, generally thats a part of the game you have to lean on scouts for.
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Salty has thrown out 2 of 26 base stealers and has committed 5 errors in 24 games catching for the Rangers.
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