64 thoughts on “Box Score Recap, 10 July 2011

  1. Larry M., Derrick Mitchell Hit his 15 bomb of the season, according to you that’s all he will hit this year. Someone better give him your memo so he stops playing so well, because he is about to make you look more ignorant then you already look. Keep killing it derrick you have people behind you who see what you are capable of because we watch YOU not your #’s. (Which look pretty GOOD from where we are sitting! 15HR, 290BA, 57RBI, 327OBP, 492 SLG)

  2. 1. OF – Domonic Brown (Phillies) – (.252) 3 for 5 with 2 runs and 2 RBI (16)
    3. OF – Jon Singleton (Clearwater)- (.275) –0 for 3 with a BB and a K
    4. RHP – Jared Cosart (Clearwater) – (7-6, 3.26) – 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB and 2 K’s (win in Futures Game)
    6. C – Sebastian Valle (Clearwater) – (.324) – 1 for 2 with a 2B, run and RBI (Futures Game)
    10. RHP – Justin De Fratus (Lehigh Valley) – (2-0, 4.61) – 1 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB and 0 K’s
    11. RHP – Julio Rodriquez (Clearwater)- (10-6, 3.44) – 6 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 2 BB and 3 K’s (win)
    13. OF – Domingo Santana (Lakewood) – (.263) 1 for 3 with a run and 2 K’s
    15. OF – Aaron Altherr (Williamsport) – (.305) – 0 for 0 with an RBI (12)
    17. C – Cameron Rupp (Lakewood) – (.245) – 1 for 4 with a run, 2 RBI (17) and a K
    18. OF – Jiwan James (Clearwater) – (.268) – 3 for 4 with a run
    24. 1B – Matt Rizzotti (Reading) – (.293) – 0 for 4
    28. OF – Kelly Dugan (Williamsport) –(.282) – 2 for 4 with 2 runs and a SB (3)


    1B – Cody Overbeck (Lehigh Valley) – (.216) 1 for 4 with 3 K’s
    2B– Cody Asche (Williamsport) – (.227) 1 for 4 with an RBI (6)
    3B – Harold Martinez (Williamsport) – (.258) – 2 for 3 with an RBI (5) and a BB
    SS – Freddy Galvis (Redding) – (.259) –2 for 5 with 2 2B (16), 2 RBI (27), 2 runs and a K
    OF – Derrick Mitchell (Redding)- (.290) – 2 for 4 with a HR (15), 2 RBI (57)
    OF – Steve Susdorf (Redding) – (.345) – 2 for 4 with an RBI (30) and a K
    OF – Zach Collier (Lakewood) – (.275) – 0 for 3 with a K
    OF – Anthony Hewitt (Lakewood) – (.238) – 0 for 3 with a BB and 2 K’s
    OF – Kyrell Hudson (Williamsport) – (.269) – 2 for 4 with an RBI (9)
    RHP – Eric Pettis (Clearwater – (1-2, 2.51, 3 SV) –1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB and a (save)
    RHP – Garett Claypool (Lakewood) – (3-4, 3.24) – 5 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 2 BB and 4 K’s (loss)

  3. Nice night for the minors winning 4 of 5 and Cosart and Valle having good games in the Futures. As we hit the unofficial 1/2 way point who were the Phils minor league all-stars.

    C Valle
    1b Overbeck
    2b Barfield
    ss Galvis
    3b Barnes
    of Collier
    of Mitchell
    of Susdorf
    DH -Ruf
    Bench – Singleton, Kratz, C.Hernandez, Murphy, Moss, Castro, Spidale, Rizzotti, and Rivero
    Starters – Pettibone, Cosart, May, Rodriguez, and Buchanan
    Pen – Friend, Schwimer, DeFratus, Aumont,and Pettis

    *Remember not a top prospect list. Based off first half numbers

  4. What’s up with Aumont, anyone know? And with Contreras suffering a setback, here is hoping that Schwimer finally gets his shot.

  5. Dugan, Hudson, and Martinez have good lines from Williamsport tonight. Galvis with two doubles, good, and a hell of a night for Carlos Rivero.

  6. Colin Kleven had a nice outing. He gave up 2 runs in the 1st and then settled down. That’s 2 good outings in a row for the 20 year old 6’5″ righty. He had 3 BBs, a WP and hit a guy but survived it.

    Dugan must be reading this board. There was a day when a lot of negative comments were made about thim and he’s been on fire since. There is no power to speak of but first let’s develop a solid bat and then worry about the power. He’s only hitting .125 against lefties and that’s hurtng his average.

    1. Bellman—–I’d thought about the same thing concerning Dugan–he just took off immediately after the period when criticism was high of his play.

  7. Sorry to interrupt discusion topic but since there is no special place and I must point one very dissapointing matter as is behavior of some dominican players from Williamsport. What´s their goal here? I doubt it´s playing baseball. I´ve seen some of them several times very late in the night hanging out with girls plus were drunked at least “slightly”. Seems to me rather they are looking for fun here and having posibility of ensuring their VISA. No doubt why then f.e. Witer Jimenez is not able to hit well and his score is pretty poor. Is this right way of representing Cutters?? I would rather give a opportunity to those giving all to baseball if they got a chance.

    1. Well, their Visas go away the moment they aren’t playing anymore so I doubt that’s their goal…if the anonymous post is accurate of course.

    2. Slightly “drunked” hanging with girls. OMG, call the police, that is atrocious behavior. Build a bigger wall.

    3. There is no special place to post this because this is a blog about the Phillies farm system and not a gossip website perhaps?

    4. In answer to your first sentence, the reason there is no special place for this posting is because there is no place for this kind of posting on this message board. Unfair, unsubstantiated and more than a little bit xenophobic. Also, considering the fact that one of the best players on the Crosscutters (Maikel Franco) is Dominican, you’re not even right in singling out the Dominicans’ performance. I don’t know what Franco has been drinking, but maybe we should give some of that stuff to Kyrell Hudson.

    5. Maybe I’m being played a fool here, but I’ll entertain your post for a moment.

      The strangest part about your post was you actually come across like you have a vested interest in seeing the dominican players put down. If their alochol based tendancies are affecting their game, take heart that the odds of any of “those” particular players making the majors are slim to none, because none of them has enough god given talent to get by without hard work and dedication. (eg there are no bryce harpers on our williamsport squad). Another thing I thought particularly interesting was you clearly aren’t from the united states, and likely orginating in one of those countries “south of our boarder” making your seemingly racial statements all the more perplexing.

      Relax and have a better day, all people get what they deserve, whatever that may be.

    6. Witer Jimenez hasn’t hit well this year. I’ll give you that. With that being said hes seeing limited amount of playing time and singling him out specifically is just wrong.

    7. I’m sure the American players are by comparison in bed with their footie pajamas by 9 p.m.


  8. I’ve seen some strange posts in my time here and it never surprises me they are mostly anonymous. And yes we were just talking about Dugan last week being a disappointment. It does appear he is hitting better but he is also repeating a level correct.

    Props to our futures performers Valle and Cosart. More and more Valle is proving to be a guy who loves to be clutch in the big moments. I look forward to seeing this group in Reading Next year.

    1. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Dugan get bit by a spider or something like that, that kept from playing most of the year? I am pretty sure something like that happened, so I can see why he is repeating a level.

    2. I was critical of Dugan last week. At the end of the day I am rooting for the kid to succeed. I am a Phillies fan and if he succeeds the team will be better for it. But I really need to see him start to do something to merit being the 75th overall pick. I don’t need to see a big singles hitter who is a pretty good OF. We need to start seeing something a little more special than a .280 average consisting of mostly single.

      He is still young, so hopefully he continues to develop. Again, I am not rooting against him, I just would like to see something more than average.

  9. Mitchell, going into today’s noon game before the break, third in the league in RBIs and tied for fifth in home runs. His last two homers off of Yankee lefties. He can make a lot of money if he can put up those kind of numbers at the Final level. Just ask Ryan Howard.

    1. RB—I can see you really like Mitch—maybe he will get a callup to LHV in a few weeks.
      I wonder if he will be a candidate for the AFL this October?

    2. Hi Rickey. I too have gained an appreciation for Mitchell starting in the second half of last year. However, we have to be a little careful with the names we throw out as comparisons. Howard was also 24 in AA but in 374 ABs put up a line of 297/386/647. In 307 ABs so far, Mitchell is at 290/327/492. There really is no comparison – Howard was an absolute monster. Mitchell definitely gets extra credit for defense and (I presume) baserunning, but I would bet the farm that Mitchell never approaches Howard. Larrym has gone to great lengths as to explaining why, so I will just reference his arguments.

      I was thinking that perhaps Victorino might offer a better comp, but when he was 23 and in AA (his third year at AA), he put up a line of 328/375/584. While Mitchell has looked good in June and July, he still has a way to go in my mind. Best of luck to him, and let’s hope he keeps it up!

      1. I have not seen Mitchell play and know that he has been considered a fringe prospect for the most part. He has obviously been playing well and with some consistency. Have any of you gotten any feedback from any scouts or from within the Phillies organization as to whether Mitchell is approaching “real prospect” status?

        It is always difficult from a farm system observer perspective to determine if a player has just gotten “it” at the AA level or if he now appears to be making strides in the direction of becoming a Major League prospect. I am sure there are far more more fringe prospects that have nice AA years that do not actually have the stuff to make the Majors than there are that do. It would be a great boost to the system to get an unexpected guy like Mitchell on the track toward MLB success. Unlike Riz and Overbeck, at least he has a defensive position and plays a decent CF. The position-less prospect is just that much more difficult to imagine making it.

        1. Yes I am closely tied to Derrick and He is getting good looks. His coach likes him a lot and he gets many comments from people higher up in the system.

  10. I know I read in the Inquirer a quote from Parent in which he spoke glowingly about Rivero’s defense. He said he was major-league ready or something like that. Yet, he has 17 errors. This quote came in the beginning of the season, so maybe Rivero looked good up to that point. Is it possible that Rivero’s error numbers are deceptive? Is he getting to balls that few other players could get to and not making the play and getting charged with an error instead of a hit being given to the hitter? Or is it that his firstbasemen have a hard time dealing with throws that aren’t right there and the scorer is charging Rivero with the error? Maybe Rivero has the potential to be a great defender. Anyway, a guy hitting like he is and with a great glove seems to me to be a pretty good prospect. Take away the glove, and he’s a suspect.

    1. This reminds me of the comments last year on the superb defensive skills of J. Villar before he was traded to the Astros. I am pretty sure he had a phenomenal number of errors, 35+.

      1. Generally, don’t young players make a lot of errors? I know Jeter made a ton of errors when he was in the minors… I think I heard the same about Rollins?

    2. Minor league error totals are always higher than major league totals. Whether that’s because the quality of the fields, the quality of first basemen, and/or harsher scorekeeping I cannot truly say. I would guess all of the above.

      For a local example, Jimmy Rollins had 20+ errors in each of his 5 minor league seasons. In his 11+ major league seasons he has never recorded more than 14 errors in a single season.

  11. Pretty sure most professional hitters can hit the hangers. Its hitting the rest of them that’s been his problem in the past.

    1. I really like May as a starter. A week or so ago I caused a stir saying he would be the first guy I would call on if I needed someone to make a spot start on the big club. I think the kid has big time stuff and expect him to progress on track through the system.

    2. This is twice in a week I’ve read that some scouts see May as a future bullpen arm. Is this recent, or have I just glossed over this in the past?

      1. As long as he has struggled with his command it has existed, for him and Cosart it is going to come down to whether they can repeat a delivery.

  12. Anyone see the movie “Sugar”? It was made in 2008 about a Dominican coming over to play in the states. It was really well done and makes you appreciate how tough it is for these kids to come over here. I don’t understand the posters purpose for his post above but it made me think of the movie.

    1. I saw that movie on HBO a couple months back I Ment to mention it on the board. It is a great movie especially for a person who follows the minors. I didn’t realize the difficulty it js to not only play against more polished ball players but they have to assimilate to a new culture..

  13. Per Twitter, Joe Savery was just promoted to Lehigh Valley. I have no idea what to make of that, whether he’s just AAA cannon fodder or they really think this lefthanded bat/lefthanded reliever thing is working.

    1. Gonna go out on a limb (the left one, specifically) and say it’s not for his hitting. Good for him, though; if he is really throwing in the low nineties again, maybe he can carve out a big league career after all.

      1. The hitting thing may be on the back burner for now. Right now he might be more valuable to the club as a lefty reliever (he has 1IP 1H 3Ks today) especially since the other options Schwimmer, D eFrantus, and Aumont are all right handed.

        1. What was his fastball speed after his injury and what is it at right now? Also what are his other pitches and how are they?

          1. We hear his FB is now in the low to mid 90s. During his time with the Phillies he has generally hovered in the mid to high 80s with not such good control or command. Think J.C. Romero. Not so good.

      2. This is one of those cases where I wish I was a Phillies beat reporter so I could call up Chuck LaMar and say, “WTF”?

    2. Gonna go out on that same limb and say “AAA Fodder” for the win.

      However, if the low 90s velocity is for real, maybe he’s got a shot as a LOOGY.

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