Tyler Cloyd gets it done for Lehigh Valley. My mom was there. She said Cloyd throws as hard as “molasses in January”. Ok, she didn’t say that. But she was there.
Good night from Maikel Franco and Hoby Milner on the Delmarva, but the winner of that tilt is 2012 draftee Tim Carver from U of Arkansas, with his first pro homerun…it was of the “grand” variety.
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Speaking of molasses, had my teaspoon with one teaspoon of Arm and Hammer’s baking soda in warm water this morning…hmmm. Raises pH. Want to be alkaline, not acidic. You know why.
Trevor May with an encouraging start.
Sebastian Valle with a huge, game-winning, two-run knock in his first AAA game.
Tocci with 2 walks in 3 PAs
Milner now with consecutive starts of no runs allowed. Great to see him pitch thru the 7th inning
Oh, and how about Kevin Brady. I suspect he’ll get tested with a few starts at Lakewood before end of season
Tyson Gillies suppose to play today in the GCL game. Heres hoping he comes around.
Logan Moore starting to find his groove at the plate. Great HS QB athlete from upsate PA, he could be a sleeper prospect behind the plate.
Can never have too many catchers
DSL- Re-cap says tie game to bottom of 10th, Lorenzo gets 2 outs then gives up a triple. Replaced by Lora , who gives up a single, game over. But, Lorenzo gets the loss. I always thought the player who gave up the hit would get the loss in a case like that. Official Scoring.
Pitchers appearing in today’s boxscores that may merit a closer look at some point:
Francibel Alejo, L
Franklyn Vargas, L
Rivar Angulo, L
Delvi Francisco, R
Felix Santos, R
There may be some others, but more established and known, or not quite up to this standard.
Loss goes to the person responsible for the runner that scored. In this case, it was Lorenzo.
I watched Lehigh on TV and Cloyd was hitting 87 on the gun.
A good reason why he needs to get a look down the stretch. Hopefully Blanton get’s traded in the next week or two and Cloyd steps in for a half-dozen or so starts
Why wait. The good fairy granted your wish. Just in time for storm season.
Bad gun!
I’ve heard reports the gun at Lehigh is 3mph slow
That could be accurate. Cloyd was at 91 in the all-star game, but that was only a one-inning performance by him. 90-91 is likely too slow for the show anyway.
If he’s hitting 90-91 he could be a legitimate number 4/5. If he’s hitting 86-87, I just don’t see it.
Yeah, our gun here usually feels a little slow. Cloyd can crank it up in the short term if he feels like he needs to or wants to (short outing in the ASG, for example). DeFratus hit 96/95 last night in that closing inning on the same gun, FWIW–looked real good. Nice bunt by Cesar in the game, too.
He was 90-92 two weeks ago in Durham
Hewitt with 2 hits and, dare I say it, the nearly extinct BB. I believe I just saw a T-Rex pass by my window.
Sure it wasn’t on a video game? This is breaking news! Hewitt had 2 hits
Keivi Rojas is available to pitch in Clearwater tonight. The teenager has been great in GCL. It looks like he is filling in until Rosin can get to Clearwater, but it would be nice to see what he can do against Class Aplus competition.
Zach Green is a hitting machine these days in GCL. He has been getting many games at shortstop even though Mora has been very good so far.
Hewitt with two hits and a walk.
May had a good game. Good luck to him as he works through trying to command his fast ball. This is a crucial time for him. If he can command the fastball, he can continue his progression to a top-of-rotation starter..
I am hoping this news isn’t implying that Rosin is going to be a reliever at CLW…
At this point does it matter how hard Cloyd throws? We know hes not highly regarded prospect. With as many starts as he’s had and an ERA under 2.00, thats big time no matter what level of baseball. He obviously knows how to get guys out and pitch. Maybe he should take the 144 million dollar ace’s next start?
Franco starting to get big time excited about.. I think hes a guy who could move through very quickly if he gets off to a good start next year.
You mean the 144 million dollar ace who got three hits of support and several balls kicked around the infield yesterday.
How dare he only strike out 9.
I want to be excited about Tyler Cloyd, but I can’t as long as I am able to remember the name Brian Gordon.
Doesn’t matter how hard he throws!?
I mean, I’m somewhat agnostic on the guy, though the fact that every informed observer who has seen him play says he is not a serious prospect weighs heavily. But sure, if he can pitch consistently at 91 mph he has a shot, though still likely a 4 or 5.
But to say it doesn’t matter how hard he throws is silly. If it is 88 to 89, he won’t cut it against major league hitters, no matter how good his command and movement are.
What about Tom Milone ? He’s having a pretty decent 1st year and doesn’t throw very hard-high 80′s
I’ve been saying it for a few weeks now! COLTON MURRAY! He has been incredible since being promoted to Clearwater and I don’t think anyone besides me has ever mentioned him before. It is also good to still see Duffy doing good after being bumped up a level.
Here’s what James, the original PhuturePhillie, collected on him in the 2011 draft:
BA Ranks: 111th of 200, 5th of 25 in KS
PG Ranks: 126th of 331, 4th in KS
College Level: Junior
Murray pitched well on the Cape last summer, and has pitched well again this year. He’s undersized for a RHP at just 6’0/195, but he throws hard, sitting 91-95 with good sink/movement and has a good slider. He has a good quick tempo in to his delivery, and BA notes he might not need much time in the minors. Would be a good guy to get signed, send to Lakewood for the rest of this year to get his feet wet, then double jump him to Reading to start next year. I have to assume his performance on the Cape is what netted him the high rankings, but its weird he was still there for the Phillies to take this late. Nice pick.
James liked him a lot and I think had him as his sleeper / breakout choice this year. He had some trouble at times in A ball so I too a wait and see attitude. I still need to see a little more.
I’ve been as critical of Hewitt as anybody, but he’s probably having his best season to date at the plate. The FSL is a notorious pitcher’s league, and his power has shown up nicely.
Think they’ll let him take a Reading spot next year? Might be his last chance.
I do, and wouldn’t be surprised to see him put up better numbers than he is now. What do you guys think, 15 homers at Clearwater would equate to 20 in Reading?
I do too. I think 25+ HR is possible for him at Reading. He might put up Rob Deer numbers for the rest of his line, but Reading will clearly help his power.
Am I wrong to have not completely given up on Hewitt yet? His prospect status might be on life support in my view, but I still see signs of life. Maybe never a regular starter, but having a backup OF with power and good speed seems like not a terrible thing to me.
I think I have been criticized dozens of times on these boards for defending Hewitt even though most arguments about him follow the same tone of looking solely at his statistics and strikeouts. I will keep repeating that tools do matter. Let’s compare him to a Leandro Castro. Castro has less power. Better defense now but Hewitt has the tools to be a good defender. Speed is comparable though I think Hewitt may be a little faster. He does not get on 1B that much because of the low OBP and the power (where he skips 1B). They both don’t draw a whole lot of walks. I do think Hewitt’s walks and power will both go up dramatically in Reading even if he hits .200. He has enough power that pitchers will avoid the strike zone and his progress will be determined on pitch recognition. If scouts did the 20-80 set of future tools with Castro and Hewitt the only one where Castro might be better is in the hit tool (maybe the fielding tool too for the errors, though I think Hewitt will work his way through those).
Castro is probably in the 25-35 range as a prospect and Hewitt should be fairly close behind him. Everyone talks about how Clearwater hurts power hitters. So a guy like Rupp will suddenly hit 20+ HR in Reading and Hewitt won’t?
Andyb, seems like where I am at as well, although you articulated it better than I did. I actually hope Hewitt gets moved to Reading, and for me, he will be one of the most interesting prospects to watch in the system next year if he is in Reading.
Just wanted to add on Hewitt, I never particulary cared for toolsy OF’s with a questionable hit tool AND questionable power (or at least marginal power). Anytime you have a guy that has legit power, the more power he has, the less he has to hit for average.
I know I am stating the obvious here…but for some reason I think Hewitt’s power potential almost gets underrated too much because he has never overcome most fans dissapointment that he was the 1st round pick in 2008, even though his current struggles were widely predicted by many.
Hewitt clearly has huge flaws, but it is not like he is not making progress. Any time you move up a level and maintain performance that is progress. I’d probably send him to Mexico or another winter league this offseason. Nothing like a diet of curveballs from crafty 30-year-old pitchers to help Hewitt learn pitch recognition.
I will buy you the sandwich of your choice if you can find Rob Deer’s mexican league numbers. I totally agree that 1) Anything is possible; and 2) You are all talking about Anthony Hewitt
I think they absolutely will. Agree with you that it will be his last chance … sink or swim.
Yea, I think they’ll give him a shot at Reading. Don’t expect him to do well but I think he’ll get the chance.
I have watched also and if you measure him against others he isn’t doing all that poorly – in fact it is surprising !
Roman Quinn with 8 triples and 15 stolen bases in 162 abs. In full-season, he might 30 Triples and 60 stolen bases, next year.
and 2 more errors. Would be nice to see those come down a bit.
Agreed, but the errors don’t bother me much now. I think Quinn is proving to be an outstanding pick. If he can stay at SS and get those errors down, he has a real chance to someday be a quality MLB player.
On the other hand, has there been a bigger disappointment in the entire system this year than Harold Martinez? Wow. All that raw potential but he just can’t seem to unlock it. Gauntlett Eldemire might come in 2nd place for this category.
He peaked in High School.
HMart that is.
Jimmy Rollins had 124 errors in 7 years in the minors. He is now considered one of the best defensive SS’s in the league. Errors in minors, especially very early on, don’t matter nearly as much.
Try 5 years in the minors…
Re-hab assignments don’t count?
Scouts did question HMart’s hit tool. He had one really good college year but then a mediocre junior season if I recall. Asche developing in the same class (and as a lower pick) has really hurt him. 3B defense is reportedly one of his strengths, but he has not hit enough to merit much time over better prospects there.
have you seen asch’es recent games? once he adjusted to the EL he’s back doing what he was doing in Clearwater
30 tripples would be a record of some sort right? that’s insane.
If he can be a SS version of Bourn.. that’s one heck of a player.
I did the math, and 16 SB plus 8 triples prorated to 500 ABs leads to just over 49 SB and just under 25 triples. So yeah, it’s possible.
You also have to factor in that Williamsport’s ballpark is quite spacious (350 down the lines, 405 to center). It’s a park that is built for Roman Quinn. So I wonder if the triples numbers keep pace in Lakewood next year.
He is a guy, though, that should steal 60 bases per year, easily.
Meanwhile, his defense has struggled, but usually it’s throwing. Range absolutely is there. Arm strength is there. Glove is there. His throws simply are off a lot, which is correctable.
Sounds like footwork issues which are definately correctible with some coaching.
Our version of Billy Hamilton
Shane Watson debut in GCL game 1.
Looking forward to seeing what his Visa Curveball can do.
1ip 1k no BB. Can’t complain about that
Looks like Shane Watson is getting the start this morning.
Third game in a row that Pullin is not in the lineup. Might be something to be concerned about if he doesn’t play game 2. Hope they are just working on his possible move to 2B.
I thought I read a few weeks ago that SCott Proefrock or Marti said they will begin to try him there in the FIL this fall.
He’s playing the second game so no worries.
…and doubles home a run in his first PA
Cloyds numbers are way too consistent to be a fluke. The kid just knows how to pitch. Location is more important than speed. There are a slew of successful ML pitchers who don’t throw faster than 90-91. I would love to hear a comprehensive report on him from somebody within the organization
There are also a slew(*1000) who dominated the minors throwing 90 or below and get crushed in the majors. When people say that Cloyd probably won’t be a success in the majors they are just being prudent based on history.
Real question with Cloyd is if the velocity is consistantly 90-91 or 87-88. Those 3 mph make a significant difference in his chances of having a ML career.
I do hope he gets a chance before the end of this season to see how he does at the big league level.
At AAA ?? With numbers (era + whip) like Cloyd ? I understand your point, but I disagree with the (*1000)
Either way, bring him up or trade him. No? Or are they trying to teach him to throw harder?
It happens every year with a prospect on this board. The one that finally converted me was R.J. Swindle. I was in LOVE with this kid in 2008. He was a lefty reliever without great stuff, but he had a 1.43 era in Reading and Lehigh Valley with a 1.09 WHIP and 8.2 K/9. Kept saying he should be called up and given a chance. He’ll do great.
Then he got called up. He was shelled. That’s when I learned stats don’t tell the whole story. You have to look at stuff.
Wasn’t Swindle the junk baller that threw slower then Moyer
The point is that you can’t just look at numbers and determine if a guy will succeed at the next level. You need to have some context as to *how* he is putting those numbers up. Things don’t always translate.
Yes. He threw a FB in the 78-80 range and an eephus curve in the mid-to-high 50s. He got absolutely hammered in the Majors the couple times he got a chance.
Totally different than a RHP throwing 89-90 (basically Joe Blanton velocity the last few years).
not fair to Heavy B: his cutter is 89-90
Jeremy Sowers. AAA in 2005-06. posted a 10-1 record with an ERA south of 1.50. Ended up with a 5.18 career ERA in the majors. Threw 88-89, though in 2007 his velocity dipped to 85 mph (thanks to Fangraphs).
Drew Carpenter. Look at Drew Carpenter’s AAA numbers. He was filthy.
Jake Diekman in 2012, but he is very young, so lets pray he gets it together.
Jake Diekman’s got the stuff though, Tyler Cloyd doesn’t.
yeah there’s no prayers needed with Diekman if he can even command to quadrants. he seemed to suffer alot from lack-of-defined-role-r-itis. that isn’t anyone’s fault, just the way it was
Diekman’s performance this year in terms of peripherals is pretty much the same as last year in Reading.
remember joe roa, fabulous aaa stats, no go in the big show.
And who was the guy a few years ago …a converted position player everyone was clamoring to get called up. He eventually opted out, went to the Yankees, didn’t do well, then went to Japan.
First game with the Yanks he was decent, then it went downhill after that.
Downhill kind of oversells it. He made one more start.
The thing with Gordon is he really did have good enough stuff to pitch in a major league bullpen. He’s a different type of reliever than Cloyd/Sowers/Roa. Some pitchers have odd development paths and just show up out of completely nowhere. Tom Wilhelmson for the Mariners for example.
Referring to that future star Brian Gordon from last year?
2010
2011
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gordobr01.shtml
Brian Gordon.
A few comments from Jim Callis Chat: 1) Rich (NJ): Is Joseph ahead of Valle at this point in the Phils fuiture plans?
Jim Callis: I’d rank Joseph as the Phillies’ top prospect, so in my mind, he should be.
2) Matt (NJ): gut call: Any phillies in the top 100 next spring?
Jim Callis: Tommy Joseph is the closest thing to a lock, and I’m not sure he’s a lock.
3) Matt (NJ): Thoughts on Cody Asche?
Jim Callis: Good lefthanded power, solid bat, gets the job done defensively. Chance to be a big league regular.
He also rated the top ten prospects moved at the deadline and had Joseph #4 and Martin #8
Keith Law chat:
John (Philadelphia)
Keith, do you think Cody Asche will be an everyday 3B in the majors?
Klaw (1:18 PM)
No.
John (Delta, PA)
Will Tyler Cloyd be a serviceable #5 starter or more of a bullpen guy? Also, when a team kicks in cash in a trade to help pay a player’s salary, does that cash count against the team’s payroll for that year? Thanks for the chat and your book suggestion of “The Last Good Kiss.”
Klaw (1:12 PM)
He could be a 5. Don’t see more than that.
Keith Law notoriously hates the phillies system. Everyone we ever have had he always says sucks
Most prospects don’t make it, so most of the time the national guys are going to say “no” to a prospect’s chances. It makes it seem like they hate our players. The reality is Asche and Cloyd are probably not major leaguers.
This. The odds are not in favor of a prospect making to the majors, but it doesn’t mean Asche isn’t a good prospect. Seems like for most evaluators, guys without at least one really plus tool have to prove themselves in AA before they get credit.
post more often Pat
No, he doesn’t. That’s a stupid myth that has no real basis in reality. KLaw rightly realizes that most prospects dont pan out. People were up in arms about KLaw back in 08 when he dared to say that K. Drabek and C. Carrasco were not #1/#2 level starters. He rightly noted that neither had that pedigree or upside.
Law is fair in his rankings and his comments towards our system. He takes a realist view on prospects which is necessary on a site where people start elevating guys like Matt Rizzotti and Darin Ruf to future stardom.
I hope that’s a joke, anonymous … every fan everywhere thinks Keith Law hates his team. Before 2011, Law had four Phillies in his top 100. He had Domonic Brown ranked behind only Mike Trout and Bryce Harper. The guy calls ‘em like he sees ‘em. Not seeing ‘em the way we want him to does not make him a hater.
Law actually thinks the Phils did well at the deadline ? He liked the prospects and thought both OF are on the downhill slide.
Like the year he hated Cosart, May, Colvin, and SIngleton when they were in our system? Or the year he had Drabek and Brown ranked in the top 30 of prospects? Or when eh liked D’Arnaud and Gose in the trades we made? That line is so ridiculous and tired..He doesn’t hate prospects of anyone’s team. It’s his opinion,and it’s no secret that the Phillies don’t have a good secret. We latch on to what is in the system because we don’t have any true star caliber players in any level except for maybe A ball. Sorry, but that’s the way it is
good system that is****
Mr Law really gives a good analytical explanation on why Asche will not be ‘an everyday 3B in the majors’! Of course the question begged a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer, but then again he could have given a little more reasoning on his assessment..
Keith Law is a prick who just likes the prospects he puts in his Top 100, he is so inaccurate, ask the guys at Baseball America, you will probably get a better answer
I really don’t get the national guys ignoring Jesse Biddle. I’ve seen him pitch and he is the Phillies top prospect right now (until May can get back on track). Biddle was taken out of HS and has excelled at every level he’s pitched. He’s a lefty who throws in the low to mid 90′s and runs up a very good K/9 which he has improved each year as well. His hits are up a bit this year, but that could be a reflection of just bad luck because his BABIP is .329 which is abnormally high. His BB/9 continues to go down which is a better sign of his improvement IMO.
Meanwhile you see a guy like Zach Lee who is the same age and taken one pick after Biddle continue to get a ton of national hype. Partly because the Dodgers paid over $4mil to sign him away from college, but Biddle has outperformed Lee at every level. Also reports out of the CAL League were Lee was throwing in the upper 80s to low 90s. That’s not horrible, but for a guy who when he was drafted was being hyped as a mid 90s guy who would punch it up to the upper 90s. I think they’re still rating Zach Lee on pre-draft hype than what he’s shown as a pro.
I think Biddle is #1(and top-75 if not top-50) and May is #2(and still top 100 but drops down). That makes Joseph #3 at best.
I agree, Biddle is #1 and its not close.
Articles this morning in the local press (Allentown) about Cloyd are focusing on his ability to adjust to the batters as the game goes on. It’s the reason his 1st inning era is around 3.00, then it goes down quickly. If his ability to adjust is a strength, that’s great. My worry is that if he gets shelled early in the majors, he may not have time to make any adjustments. This goes along with the velocity issue somewhat, but a different sort of take on it.
I guess you don’t know until you try, and his chance to try should be coming soon. We’re going to miss him when he goes up, that’s for sure.
Here’s one of those articles from today. Sandberg says Cloyd’s got something on his own that you just can’t teach kids.
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/ironpigs/index.ssf/2012/08/tyler_cloyd_continues_dominanc_1.html
Shane Watson started and pitched one clean inning for the GCL Phillies today in his professional debut. Threw a strikeout in there for good measure. Nice to see him on the mound finally
Drew Anderson has done a good job straight out of HS as well. A bit under the radar, but always nice to see the young guys come in and perform.
Tocci 2 for 3 in first game of doubleheader. 16 year old, now hitting .345 with an OBP of .418. It makes one drool over his potential.
I’m excited. Good BB/K rates and he’s hitting the ball well. I hope he keeps it up!
If anyone is interested, here’s a Fangraphs scouting report on Larry Greene http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/philadelphia-phillies-outfield-prospect-larry-greene-fangraphs-scouting-report-video/
Tough but fair. Newman’s a good scout. Greene needs to hit, and hit a lot.
My only quibble is the Prince Fielder stuff. That kid literally grew up in a big league clubhouse . . . not really fair to expect Greene to have the same level of baseball acumen at the same age.
The way I take that is to show just how advanced some guys were at that age whereas Larry Greene has an upward fight due to his body type and rawness. Fielder was able to overcome it because of that early exposure. Greene doesnt have that luxury.
Hell, Greene might get some awesome instruction this winter and really work out and come into ST in fantastic baseball shape for the first time in his life. He basically has to do that though. Depends on his personality, work ethic and desire.
Cant compare him to Fielder because Greene has a chance to stick in the OF. I think he’s too negative on his speed and arm.
I know nothing about Greene’s fielding, but I do know that kids recruited to play LB in the SEC are not slow afoot. Therefore, I’m not concerned about Greene’s speed – I just hope his hit tool develops.
He’s comparing them because of their similar body type, but yea to point out what Fielder did at the same age in his debut is pretty misleading. Fielder was the 7th overall pick. Greene is the 40th overall pick. Big difference. Fielder faced tougher competition growing up and could afford to go to higher level AAU type things. Greene is from a town in Georgia with a population of 17,000 and where the entire school district is 3000 students from grades K through 12. Every single pitcher Greene faces since he has turned pro is probably better than any pitcher he faced as a HS player.
Newman has a website with “Scouting” in the title. As far as the content, same old “him big, him slow” stuff which surfaced the day after the draft. It is claimed that nobody 6′ tall and 235 pounds could possibly be fast , I believe most who claim this are probably stick figures. As far as all the “should lose 15 or 20 pounds ” stuff, don’t see anyplace to remove weight from without the massive losing of muscle mass. According to the beliefs of most Internet draftniks, the entire baseball player personnel pool would be comprised of 1B men and DH’s . Lagging in certain areas?- how about giving it some time.
Hard for a kid to lose weight and still gain muscle-mass, but if he could shed 15/20 lbs it may be beneficial to him. And he has some thick football-LB thighs for sure.
To be fair, Greene is also in a major slump right now. Newman was also fawning over Mitch Walding at the start of the season when he was hot, and Walding went on to hit .204 in July.
In the end, I think Quinn, Walding and Greene have all taken turns as the top prospects on this team. But with youth comes inconsistency.
If you read it, he’s not focusing about production in the article. He’s talking about fundamental skills he’s lacking like bat speed and defensive ability.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll work on his swing, but the problem is going to be him sticking in left. That was a pretty discouraging scouting report defensively.
OTOH haven’t people like Mitch who has seen him play been on here saying his defense in the OF is improving and he’s not terrible out there.
Don’t forget Zack Green!
Tocci 3-4 today. This kid is something else
Quickly heading towards #1 Phils prospect status. This kid has the potential to be a superstar.
dave in ny (ny): Jesse Biddle or Adam Morgan?
Ben Badler: Biddle, but wow has Morgan come on and narrowed that gap this year.
looks like adam has to be nearing or in our top 5 and still rising
story of the year for Phils prospects.
got the linky for the chat?
http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1344011152
Btw, Martin is getting his first start tonight
Joe Blanton traded welcome to the bigs cloyd
Kendrick. Rosenberg recalled. Wish they’d just start B.J., frankly.
It seems like they were preparing BJ for the long relief position. Kendrick wants to start. They will honor his wish.
What does Cloyd have to do to get a callup?????
Throw harder.
They weren’t going to start him today since he pitched yesterday. I bet the next time through the rotation they’ll call him up.
Hope they Phillies allow Cloyd to start at some point this year, so everyone can get it out of their system once they see he isn’t better than Kendrick.
Kendrick has value. That’s about what I’m hoping for here, personally.
Kendrick only had value when he was playing for the minimum.
Manuel said after the game last night when Paul Jolly asked him that, he will be coming up.
Clearwater’s pitcher was yet to be named. I wonder if his name will be Rosin.
Sometimes the teams don’t list the pitcher for some odd reason. It would be scheduled to be Morgan, but I hope Rosin is going to be starting at some point for CLW.
Blanton traded to Dodgers cash and Player to be named later
That’s two PTNBLs coming from the Dodgers, or cash of course. Blanton’s PTBNL probably comes from the same player list in play from the Vic deal
Maybe we can get a Domingo Santana type PTNBL. Highly doubtful though….
Hoping its Alex Santana.
Gillies to play for Clearwater tonight
cloyd. I have seen him twice. I would never post again, if he is a major league starter, if he lasts one year, free drinks for all. he just doesnt have the velocity to be a effective major league pitcher, another swindle. but i can see the point of giving him a chance, the season is lost so another bad prospect wouldnt hurt, and it would tell you that he isnt the answer for a fifth starter or effective relief pitcher
Great news to hear Keivi Rojas was promoted to Clearwater. He absolutely dominated GCL. I’m hoping he can keep it going.
They seemed to have put him back in GCL. He pitched for GCL and won this afternoon. Rosin probably showed up and they didn’t need him. Ah, such is life when you are using the same facilities.
Yeah I saw that in the second box score for GCL. He really should get some kind of a call up. His numbers are video game for the GCL.
Heck of a debut for Martin tonight. 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1BB, 6K
Can’t ask for more. He’s not far off from good prospect status again.
He’s a better prospect than May right now.
Too early to compare. When May is finished developing his fastball command (if ever) he will be on the fast track again with a lot more skill as a pitcher. He has seen how batters can feast on a good fastball that is not exactly where you want it and seems to understand what he has to do. The Reading staff is not neglecting him, but has helped him to understand exactly what is necessary. He seems to have understood the idea. Have patience. His last start was promising.
I’m not sure what you used to determine Trevor May has ‘a lot more skill as a pitcher’, than Ethan Martin. I have not seen this information. Ethan Stewart has a plus curve, and throws in the high 90′s. Martin’s issues have been control. Same with May.
Both pitchers are basically the same age, were drafted the same year, and are pitching the same level. One throws harder, has the same plus off-speed pitch and is showing more control, than the other. Martin will clearly be regarded as the better prospect at the end of the year.
Said Stewart, meant Martin.
Adam Morgan doing his thing. 6K 0BB through 4IP.
Ho hum, just another start for Morgan.
we jinxed him, Chris. He got lit up in the 5th.
Looks like he got BABIP’d
hardcore BABIPing. 5 straight singles.
solid K to BB again, only 2 xbh, 6 to 1 gb/fb… another solid outing
nice job from ethan martin, too. one earned run in six innings for reading.
Very encouraging start
Tyler Greene. 0-4 4K.
Greene was only 0-3 with 3 Ks … Yan Olmo pinch-hit for him in the eighth and struck out … Roman Quinn was 0-5 with 5 Ks … 13 strikeouts by the Cutters tonight
If 0-4 with 4 Ks is golden sombrero, what is 0-5 with 5 Ks? Platinum?
Dodgers, put the claim on Lee, damn what else do they want? Imagine if Blanton, Lee, and Vic were paired together in a deal
How many PTBNLs do the Dodgers have?
Rosenberg looked real strong, would like to see more of him as a starter.
Looked good. Like his confidence.
BJ is a reliever, he only started to work on his slider. Hopefully, last night was the real BJ and he’ll stick in the majors now. Schwimer has obviously turned things around, if BJ can too, we can gain some momentum for next year’s pen. Diekman is back at LHV now working on what he needs to do. Hopefully he’ll “graduate” next. It takes time to figure out what you need to do to stick in the bigs but the good ones figure it out and we certainly have plenty of good pen arms. Defratus and Aumont are after Diekman and Bonilla is next year… The pen we hoped for will get there, just one year later.
Then again, if they have that many pieces there plus Lindblom, they may have flexibility with Bonilla to try starting again.
Jon Mayo on Maikel Franco….Rank: 10 in Phillies System…..Lakewood BlueClaws (A)
ETA: 2014 –Position: 3B –Age: 19, DOB: 08/26/1992 –Bats: R, Throws: R
Height: 6′ 1″, Weight: 180 –Signed: Jan. 13, 2010
It may take awhile for him to get there, but Franco as a finished product could be an elite-level player at the hot corner. He profiles very well at the position, with the ability to hit for plenty of power down the road, especially as he develops better plate discipline. He’s a solid defender as well, with a strong arm and good range. Be patient, Phillies fans, because the payoff will be worth it.
Valle just hit his first AAA homer. 2 run shot
Adam Morgan…yes that Adam Morgan, was sent down to Lakewood. Does anybody know if it is to just clear a roster spot because he pitched yesterday, and he will be brought back up on Wednesday for his next start, or is it the less than one percent chance he got sent down?
This would be complete bulls**t if he got legitimately sent down.