Phils reacquire Brian Schlitter, DFA Drew Carpenter

The Phils claimed RHP Brian Schlitter, 25, off of waivers today from the Yankees.  Schlitter was originally the Phillies 16th round pick in the 2007 draft and was traded away to Chicago in 2008 for Scott Eyre.  Schlitter a big righty made his major league debut last year with the Cubs, appearing in 7 games, during which he allowed 11 runs in 8 innings. Appearing for AAA Iowa City last season, Schlitter was 2-1 with a 3.15 ERA in 37 games, saving 13.  In 45.2 IP, Schlitter struck out 42 and walked 21.  Notably, Schlitter was managed by new Lehigh Valley manager Ryne Sandberg last season in Iowa City. Schlitter was added to the 40 man roster and has two options remaining.

To make room on the 40 man roster, the Phils designated RHP Drew Carpenter for assignment. The Phils 2nd round pick in 2006, Carpenter had a cup of coffee with the Phils in both 2009 and 2010.  Over the past two seasons, Carpenter made 52 starts for Lehigh Valley, going 19-17 with a 3.69 ERA. After coming out of SPring Training with the big club last season, Carpenter struggled to regain his form of 2009.  While a solid starter in AAA throughout the year, Carpenter was passed over on a number of occasions for mid seasons call ups and was permanently passed over on the depth chart by Vance Worley. 

50 thoughts on “Phils reacquire Brian Schlitter, DFA Drew Carpenter

    1. Actually, from reading all the comments just now, it looks like there were only two posters who were against the trade. They were just very vocal about it.

      1. Listen to this wacko:

        NEPP says:
        August 7, 2008 at 6:32 PM

        This was a good trade. If Eyre gives us anything at all this is a good move. We can’t not trade a fringe prospect because he MIGHT be a league average reliever in 5 years.
        Reply

  1. This looks to give the Phils more flexibility out in the bullpen. To me that is the biggest reason for not bringing Durbin back. Let these guys that have options go show you what they have, if they start to struggle send them down.

    1. Thank you! I have been preaching against FAs like Baez for a while. They have four or five guys who could get a cup of coffee tryout.

  2. I agree. The big club needs to get younger and cheaper somehow and the bullpen is a good place to start.

    It may not be Brian but JDF, Worley, Tony B, Schwimmer, Stutes…somewhere in that group will be someone who can fill in for Durbin.

  3. Couple points:

    1. I’d be surprised if Carpenter goes unclaimed and returns to Lehigh Valley.

    2. I don’t have an available projection on Brin Schlitter, but he’s good enough to compete for a bullpen spot this spring. I like that the Phillies have several arms, Schwimer, Stutes, Mathieson, Schlitter, that can push Danys Baez in Spring Training. From there the Phillies can ride the hot hand.

    3. How about some props for the job Scott Eyre did for us in return? 61 appearances, 1.62 ERA, and he pitched through elbow pain to help us to the 2009 NL Pennant.

    1. He also helped us win the World Series in 08. I think this was a good move. They upgraded to Schlitter from Carpenter and there is a chance that they can keep Carpenter and this would turn into a really good move.

      1. As bad as pitching is through much of baseball, I am amazed that we could not pick up a minor prospect for Carp. When I have seen him in the past he appeared to move the ball around well although he did not seem to throw particularly hard. It seems unlikely that he does not get chosen.

        1. But that could still happen (acquiring a mid-level prospect), as Carpenter was designated for assignment. Just like the Escolona DFA.

  4. Some more info from David Murphy:

    Domonic Brown has put on about 10 pounds of muscles. His arms are noticably bigger. The biggest change, however, is in his batting stance. Brown has dropped his hands in his set-up, which the Phillies feel will give him better coverage of the strike zone.

    I talked to Greg Gross about this last week in a story that ran in the paper. But after watching Brown take batting practice today, I can tell you that the change is a little more evident than I had envisioned.

    “I think that’s going to put him in a better hitting position,” Manuel said. “I just watched him in BP there today and I think that’s going to really help his stroke. His approach is going to be much better. When you are really up here high, not only was he high, but he had a big wrap. He’s got a make a real long cut to the ball. This is going to shorten his cut. . .He’s a low-ball hitter when he’s up here like this. Major League pitching, good pitching, they can beat that.”

    Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies/Valdez_in_center_field_Mayberry_at_first_It_could_happen.html#ixzz1E42LDh1L

    1. I saw Mayberry in the Cape Cod league a few hundred years ago. He played 1st. He was pretty smooth over there and his size made for a big target. If memory serves, the SS kept airmailing throws that Mayberry went up the ladder to get. Adding 1st to his repertoire might make him a bench asset.

      I’ll await the rebuttal….

    2. It would seem that Dom will need to time to work on such a dramatic change. I am already dreading Francisco and Gload in right.
      Dom is getting smoked by Trout in a vote over on Sickels blog. I have not seen Trout but based on watching Brown, I would be shocked if Trouts tools are significantly better.

      1. I’m probably understating that. Trout was 18 years old most of last year. He outperformed Singleton as a hitter at the same level, then progressed to High A and kept hitting. He hits for average, has pop and he’s an 80 runner.

        1. Let’s not get carried away. Trout and Singleton are almost the same age. Trout definitely hit for a better average and has more speed, which helps his average. Both players had a remarkable number of walks. Singleton showed more power. If there is an edge here it is a small one.

          1. Trout plays a very good CF and he shows elite contact rates and plate discipline. He’s a good step above Singleton in all aspects of his game.

            He had better offensive numbers AND played half the year at a higher level.

            1. I am comparing their records at the same level, Low A.

              Contact Rates: Singleton struck out just under 20% of his at bats while Trout struck out just under 17% of his at bats.

              Plate Discipline: Singleton walked in just over 14% of his plate appearances (walks plus at bats) while Trout walked in just about 13% of his plate appearances.

              Singleton did not play in high A, so there is nothing to compare, however,
              Trout did drop off some from low A. His average dropped from .362 to .306, his K’s were up a little and his BBs were down a little. In low A he stole 45 bases in 54 tries (83%) but in high A he stole 11 bases in 17 tries, about 65%.

              Playing CF is a plus, but most of the recent MVPs that I can recall play first base. Power is where it is at and that is where Singleton has the edge.

              Overall, I would agree that right now Trout is the better prospect, but it is, as I said, a small edge.

            2. I’m taking into account that he was promoted to A+ and still did very well…along with a positional adjustment which also favors him.

      2. I saw Trout in several dozen games with our local Cedar Rapids Angel farm club last summer–until his early mid-season promotion to High A ball. As an 18 year old kid with only a couple of months in rookie ball after being a #1 draft pick in 2009, he simply overwhelmed the Low Class A Midwest League–he is the definitive 5-tool player with strong arm, power at a tender age, great hitter, a potential 60-70 SB base-runner, and he covers CF like Garry Maddox.

        If he isn’t the best prospect in ball, there can’t be more guys better than you count on the hand of Three-Fingers Jones.

        1. 47 XBH and 249 TBs in A ball for an 18 year old is pretty damn impressive. He’s showing serious power potential for a CF.

          Consider that he’ll start in AA this year (most likely) as a 19 year old and could end the year in AAA and be pushing for an MLB position in 2012 at Age 20. He’s the real deal and I’d kill to have him in our system.

          Singleton is also a great prospect but not quite at that level.

        1. I’m from Millville. He’s from a great family and the reports understandably put his makeup and baseball iq through the roof. His dad spent some years in the Twins system, I believe.

  5. So with Schlitter in camp does this put more pressure on Mathieson? Do you think the Phils brass are not completly sold on Mathieson on the big league level?

      1. Several pitchers are completing for 1 or 2 spots. Each one has to pitch well each time out to stay in the hunt. Whoever pitches the best will get the job(s). Should be good competition for the open spots. Who knows with Bastardo.

        1. Bastardo is pretty clearly the best left handed reliever in the organization. Second lefty spot is probably Romero’s to lose, but Zagurski, Perez and Meyer are all at the same level. I figure there are two other spots. One for a short reliever with Mathieson, Schlitter, Stutes and Schwimer trying to push out Danys Baez. Then there’s a long relief role where Kyle Kendrick is probably the favorite but Vance Worley and Eddie Bonine are in the mix.

          Personally, I’d probably rather carry an extra of the short relief group and carry Bastardo as the only LHRP in the bullpen.

          1. Bastardo clearly the best left handed releiver? He shows up in camp with tenderness in his elbow, and today left camp on arrival with the flu. I don’t understand this big push with Bastardo. Yeah, his strikeout numbers look great, but he has problems locating the plate, in a very limited number of innings pitched. I don’t think you can count on him on a regular basis out of the pen. He might make it as an extra arm, the 11-12 man on a staff, in the pen.

            1. Bastardo pitched 39 innings last year, struck out 59 batters and walked 15. Romero slipped last year and righties crushed him. What lefty reliever is outperforming Bastardo on this club?

            2. I wouldn’t look at Bastardo’s
              minor league stats so much as to what he has done when called up, and that’s basically struggled. In 18 innings last season he walked 9, and hit 2 batters. Too inconsistent so far at the big league level, plus he’s hurt right now anyway. One of the other LHP’s will claim that spot. Not sure Bastardo makes the roster – he’ll have to pitch his way there.
              He’s struggled when called up. Romero will have one spot locked up for sure.

            3. That’s also why the Phils have brought in quite a few LHP’s as non-roster players. They’re not sold on Bastardo yet.

            4. Bastardo still has to prove he belongs in the majors, but let’s not let 18 innings influence our opinion of him too much. Young player, trying to break into the majors- it’s no surprise that he’s struggled some.

    1. There’s been a lot of investment in Mathieson over the last few years. Would be tough to watch him go pitch elsewhere and blossom into a dominant reliever. That said, it’s time he gets a chance to be an impact pitcher out of the bullpen. Last season’s two abbreviated stints didn’t provide enough sample to make any intelligent conclusions. This will be an important spring training for him with the organization. If he can’t grab a bullpen spot it might be time to head overseas to Japan and make some bigger money. Perhaps he follows Jonathan Abaladejo, the only other Triple-A reliever more dominant than Mathieson last year, to the Pacific Rim. It’s interesting how Schlitter fits in to this conversation. He was supposed to replace Abaladejo as the Yankees’ Triple-A closer, but might now end up being the Phillies’ closer at Lehigh Valley, nudging Justin DeFratus back to Reading to open the season as closer.

      1. Well, he’s in camp on a Major League invite and he has a legitimate shot to be the final guy out of the bullpen. Its now or never for Scotty.

    1. At least it stayed in the prospect realm…I’d consider that a success at least.

      Looking back on the Schlitter trade thread, I was surprised at how vociferous I was at defending the deal at the time and shocked that there was so much dissent on trading a fringy Single A reliever. Fun times and a nice trip down memory lane for me.

        1. I’m glad to see Schlitter back, although we have far more relief prospects than we did when he departed. Eyre performed far, far better than I thought he would or than his prior record. He didn’t even show much L-R split in his 2008 time with Phillies.

  6. Note: If the cubs gave up on him,he will probably Rookie of the year and MVP.

    I believe in Greg Gross. He gave a lot as a player and he seems to have a gift for teaching.

  7. Not much of a difference in my opinion but in general I’d prefer a starter over a reliever. Phils seem to have many relief options in Mathieson, Herndon, Bastardo, Zagurski and DeFratus on the 40-man already for basically one roster spot. At the ready are Schwimer, Stutes, and maybe Rosenberg if he recovers.

    For starters in AAA, there’s Worley and … Naylor? Granted Carpenter probably has the worst ‘out-pitch’ of any pitchers I mentioned but he pitched okay at AAA and I would think would be more useful in an injury situation than tons on relievers. I would also infer that Blanton might be sticking around.

    Oh, and I am still amazed that Bocock is still around! Maybe Phils think a lot of poor solutions adds up to replacement level.

  8. I saw the video on Schlitter. He throws a rising fastball that also moves in the zone – the kind that batters swing under (see Roy Oswalt). If he develops any kind of decent breaking pitch, he has a pretty good upside. This could end up being a very, very fine move. I love it!

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