Comments on: Josh Outman talks about his old motion

By: Sean

Sean — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:48:53 +0000

Thomas makes a good point. Its a very good thing that they didnt have as much wear and tear as other pitchers, plus they have gotten to look at pitching from more than one angle which can only further their understanding and mastering of the traditional delivery. None the less, Josh has obviously taken very well to the traditional style of pitching seeing that he will be making his first major league start Friday the 8th with the Oakland Athletics…

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:23:29 +0000

I live in St.Louis and played with Josh’s younger brother Zach; who pitch’s for St.Louis University and uses the same motion Josh used to. It is a very strange motion that was taught to them by their father who is a physicist and did much studying of the human body. Zach is doing the same change from his fathers way to the conventional way and has increased his velocity into the 91-95 range. I think the motion was more of a tactic used when they were young so they would not get reoccurring arm issues as they progressed.

By: Catch 22 f/k/a H Man

Catch 22 f/k/a H Man — Tue, 20 May 2008 11:59:18 +0000

Jake – Lou Marson has a completely different career trajectory than Carlos Ruiz. Ruiz was a very late bloomer (28 year old rookie – that’s old) who, even if he achieves his potential, probably will never be a top flight catcher. He might become a “good” catcher, but that’s about it.

Marson is a very young catching prospect with a great eye and, from what I understand, solid catching skills. His upside is significant as he is currently a 4 tool player (everything but power) and may yet develop power (his homer this weekend was to dead centerfield, so maybe it will develop).

Even if Marson merely develops into a solid number 2 or 7 hitter with a good OBP, that is a significant upgrade over what Ruiz is now or is likley to become. And don’t get me wrong, I like Ruiz, but we have to see him for what he is.

By: Jake

Jake — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:43:27 +0000

“I guess we can agree to disagree. My view is that we should probably wait and give our prospects a try before we trade them for starting pitching. I’d rather see if JA Happ can pitch in the majors before I trade him, Josh Outman or Antonio Bastardo for the next Kyle Lohse.”

I definitely agree on Happ. I have made it my mission to do everything possible to influence the Phillies to yank Eaton from the rotation. To me, this Eaton experiment is done. It ended Saturday night. It is what it is (a mistake) and he is what he is (an awful starting pitcher). I totally understand giving Eaton the edge in spring training because of the contract. But to go any further with it just compounds the mistake. The bottom line is the Phils are going to have to pay Eaton about $13 million more whether he starts another game or not. To continue with him in the rotation only lessons your chances to win ballgames. There is no upside here. You could swap Eaton and Durbin, or cut Condrey and call up Happ. Either would suit me. They might not pitch all that much better, but at least you have upside.

By: Jake

Jake — Mon, 19 May 2008 22:39:37 +0000

Marson had his first HR last night. I saw him play last week, but formed no opinion of that game. He might just be another Carlos Ruiz with little power.